Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[make_it_so]

Off topic but I never got into Gundam as a whole and it's a 50 year old franchise at this point. I loved LOTGH and I wanted to get into Gundam. What's the watching/reading order you'd recommend?

Spoiler: My recommendations

I'd personally start with the Mobile Suit Gundam compilation movies - it's a retelling of the core story while cutting down a bit on the "Enemy Mobile Suit of the Week" aspect that sometimes bogged down the TV series. Following that, I'd watch either the 08th MS Team OVA (it takes place concurrently with the middle episodes of the series) or the 0080: War in the Pocket OVA (takes place concurrently with the final part of the TV series). Following that, either watch the rest of them in release order (meaning you go with Zeta Gundam) or chronological order (which means you go with the 0083: Stardust Memory OVA, followed by Zeta Gundam). I would personally recommend the Zeta Gundam TV series rather than the compilation movies, as there's a deeper and more intricate story to tell that you can't really shorten to three movies. Plus the Zeta movies have this weird fusion of the original 1980s TV animation and modern 2000's animation that's a major visual clash.

As for subbed vs. dubbed, go with whichever method you prefer. I think the OVA's as a whole have excellent dubs, as does Zeta Gundam. However some releases like Gundam ZZ and Victory Gundam currently don't have an English dub and are only available subbed.

Saw it with my own eyes, from 1986 to 1996 it went from "The Earth is cooling, we're all doomed unless we do something major that will require a total reform of society and an end to consumerism as we know it!" to "The world's getting hotter, we're all doomed unless we do something major that will require a total reform of society and an end to the consumerism as we know it!"

And they never said WHAT exactly was causing this sudden change from one extreme to the other, inside a decade, which on a geological time scale is a practically unmeasurable micro-second.... but they were SURE it was happening and there was no time for debate: there was, in fact, only enough time to empower government to regulate everything you drank/ate/bought/slept in and if you said "no" we'd all be sizzling like bacon in a pan by 2006.....

Spoiler: didn't happen. Hence the need to invent the term "climate crisis" to spur action.... claims of rising or lowering temperatures can be looked up and checked, but just calling every day where the temperature is above or below the average "a crisis" is harder to fight the hysteria of. You get a severe thunderstorm in your town, bad enough to knock down trees, knock out the power, and flood roads, about once every 2 years, right? It happens.... but I've seen 20-somethings react to one blowing through with hand-wringing about how it's all the fault of "the climate crisis" , even when I tell them I've been around long enough to have seen a dozen such storms, nope, doesn't count, these are 'different' somehow.... or "never happened before" , yeah, from your perspective, you aren't old enough yet to have experienced say, the 20 year flood cycle....

And that's before you get to the insanity of them throwing things into the "climate change" bucket that aren't even weather.....like earthquakes, avalanches and fires that were the result of accidents or deliberate arson.

It speaks to either their youthful ignorance/inexperience or their disturbing susceptibility to media manipulation that a they consider once in a decade storms or annual wildfires are all the signs of the climate rapidly changing, and so we need to immediately change how we do things (though not necessarily in a way that would affect their lifestyles, of course).

After reading a couple of tweet,s we should invent the concept of Bob's Razor in the same way Occam's Razor exists. If Bob says something vage that implies violence, the answer is the most horrific and sadistic form of violence that can be concieved by Bob.

I love when he got told that America doesn't have the best track record on assasinating south american presidents that he suddenly changed the tune to "by we i meant the enviromental-concious" and was extremely evasive by answering to what he wants to do with Bolsonaro.

Maybe he wants Bolsonaro taken out by a giant rock dropped by a drone - it would be environmentally conscious, plus according to Bobby no one would be able to tell if it was an accident or not!

I'm sorry to report that, even among MCU fans, there are people hopelessly stuck in Inferior (read: white male) Past:
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Because wanting more of your favorite character is "toxic".

Nevermind that even the comics themselves brought Tony back from the dead (twice!) or that Riri doesn't even have her own solo book anymore (to my knowledge). But this is such stupid bugman thinking of Bobby the corporate boot-licker: if you don't like what Papa Disney is doing, you're a Snyder-Nazi Mayo-Ghoul.

When Bobby looks at art, he thinks orgy:
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(Do you think Bobby's fap folder has this Waterhouse classic yet?)

Example #435,893 of how "cultured" critic Blobbert the Fat is a completely uncultured, degenerate simpleton that probably has less appreciation for aesthetic beauty than those supposedly worthless "obsoletes" in the flyover states. I bet even a trailer-trash redneck would have a better appreciation for this piece of art than merely as fapping material - or at the very least, would have the sense to not say so out loud.

Capitol rioters:
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Do everyone a favor and just die already, you disgusting diabetic fascist.

Let's see Bobby's totally non-hate based rationale for gun control:

When someone declares a large portion of the population "surplus" and "obsolete" and that this is a reason that they need to be disarmed, that's a sign that you should not only not give up your guns, but should make absolutely sure that you, your family, and your community are armed to the teeth, because we all know what comes next.

 

[Positron]

Not to mention the whole population control was a laughable excuse for a villain motivation, more so a villain that has not only acesss to magic space tech, but god powers, and worse, the movies never tried to even show how the overpopulation is destroying the universe besides one planet that was destroyed long, long ago (how!?)

Wow MCU is really trying to shoehorn "topical" issues.

As usual, Bobby tries to read something into Falcon's finale.




Let's give the mic to our resident trio of intellectuals:


Apostasy! The Rat sayeth, "thou must be inclusive and debauched." (Archive of the Orlando Sentinel article as the original is paywalled)

"Horndog fanboys", the projection is strong in this one.

Mah Chinamen!!!!!


Bobby on the nature of revolution (The thread Bobby clips from is a long conspiracy rant)


Police officers practicing meditation offends both sides of the political divide. I applaud their administration for caring for the well-being of their overstressed foot soldiers, but for Bobby, it all comes back to B-movie cliches.


Bruce Jenner:

 

[Tronathon242]

As for Infinity War/Endgame and Thanos; it should be noted that the motive holes for Thanos were due to them changing his motivation from "simp for the living manifestation of Death" to "Edgy Malthusian". They didn't bother to have people ask why Thanos didn't wish for more natural resources for the population of the universe, because they wanted Thanos to be a scary warlord not a pencil pushing Malthusian who only speechifies; so they didn't bother have anyone try and argue alternative and methods and just go straight to the notion that Thanos's ideas were so beyond the pale that no one could justify defending them combined with Thanos being so stubborn that he refused to see beyond his "kill half the universe" scenario to even entertain alternatives, due to him seeing Titan's destruction/inability to stop their own destruction via alternatives as proof that mass murder is the only solution.

For a series that builds itself on being sequential and having all threads meet in the same place, that really sticks out. It seems to me that the creative forces at Marvel wanted to give Thanos an emotional core that made him more than a mustache twirling cackler. They did succeed, but it also leaves those end credits sequences as odd head scratchers because he just changes his entire motive seemingly out of nowhere. Better writers would have been able to make it all work better.

 

[TowinKarz]

What's with Bob's hatred of crypto? Just with stonks there was nothing, and still nothing preventing him from getting in on it.

It's a means by which the mayountermenschen can gain influence, and that's bad (because his waifus in Congress said it's bad)

 

[make_it_so]

It's a means by which the mayountermenschen can gain influence, and that's bad (because his waifus in Congress said it's bad)

And actively trying to make sure that a large segment of the population doesn't gain influence would not at all backfire or lead to larger problems, again because his waifus in Congress said so.

 

[TowinKarz]

And actively trying to make sure that a large segment of the population doesn't gain influence would not at all backfire or lead to larger problems, again because his waifus in Congress said so.

"Have you ever driven by a person who is succeeding at life without agreeing with you 100% and wondered what you can do to STOP it?"

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

As usual, Bobby tries to read something into Falcon's finale.

Thunderbolts will never feel completely right in the MCU to me. The original premise in the comic books were that they were the Masters of Evil posing as heroes to gain the world's trust after Marvel shunted most of its non-mutant heroes to the Heroes Reborn pocket universe. Part of the intrigue was Moonstone undermining Zemo's leadership, MACH-1 and Songbird enjoying the public approval, and Jolt bringing in youthful energy and innocence that swayed Atlas to defect. We will likely see none of that in the MCU and get its version of the Suicide Squad.

 

[Tronathon242]

"Have you ever driven by a person who is succeeding at life without agreeing with you 100% and wondered what you can do to STOP it?"

"Have you ever put your faith into a Saturday morning cartoon version of the future and then spent years raging at others for it not coming true? Have you ever openly pinned for the extermination of those people?"

Thunderbolts will never feel completely right in the MCU to me. The original premise in the comic books were that they were the Masters of Evil posing as heroes to gain the world's trust after Marvel shunted most of its non-mutant heroes to the Heroes Reborn pocket universe. Part of the intrigue was Moonstone undermining Zemo's leadership, MACH-1 and Songbird enjoying the public approval, and Jolt bringing in youthful energy and innocence that swayed Atlas to defect. We will likely see none of that in the MCU and get its version of the Suicide Squad.

I wouldn't put it past Marvel to make a ripoff of a ripoff. The sooner a new movie trend emerges, the better.

 

[TowinKarz]

I wouldn't put it past Marvel to make a ripoff of a ripoff. The sooner a new movie trend emerges, the better.

Diminishing returns for capeshit has to kick in at some point... D-list Marvel heroes are tough enough to sell to the Wokeiestas state-side unless you diversify them with representation, but, "Literal Who?" characters, "reimagined" with diversity-snowflakey actors is anathema to that Chinese market they sacrificed all to court, and do it badly.

 

[Commander X]

Mortal Kombat. Bobby is easily amused.
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[MirrorNoir]

Thunderbolts will never feel completely right in the MCU to me. The original premise in the comic books were that they were the Masters of Evil posing as heroes to gain the world's trust after Marvel shunted most of its non-mutant heroes to the Heroes Reborn pocket universe. Part of the intrigue was Moonstone undermining Zemo's leadership, MACH-1 and Songbird enjoying the public approval, and Jolt bringing in youthful energy and innocence that swayed Atlas to defect. We will likely see none of that in the MCU and get its version of the Suicide Squad.

The best way to do Thunderbolts at this point, is to do it as a low stakes type deal along the lines of Ant Man.

Moonstone, Fixer, Songbird, Beetle, Goliath are a bunch of minor super-villain criminals being moved to the Vault (super-villain prison) in Colorado with another major villain and that major villain crashes the prison van and basically kills the guards and rescues their man and leaves the rest to die in the flaming wreckage. But the villains survive and wander into a middle america town in the middle of nowhere and through a series of events, ends up stopping a robbery while in costume. The town thanks them and realizing no one recognizes them, Beetle claims they are actually heroes and agree to set up shop in town until they can split up and go their separate ways. They end up shacking up with Speedball and Jolt, who for the sake of the story are step-siblings with Speedball's dad marrying Jolt's mom and Speedball's dad being an anti-hero prosecutor type who doesn't like super heroes.

One of the robbers they beat up however turns out to be the sibling of another major villain and that villain brings his own crew to town to free his brother. For synergy and holy shit we are fucked sake, have the villain team be the motherfucking Marauders from X-Men and Sabretooth is the villain in jail that the Thunderbolts beat up to gain the love of the townspeople.

The Thunderbolts have to decide to either fight the Marauders (who are the most dangerous team of murderers in the Marvel Universe) and save the town, or flee and let the Marauders kill everyone as they free Sabretooth. Meanwhile Speedball and Jolt find out that the Thunderbolts are fake heroes/villains and decide to fight the bad guys themselves (bonus points, the Penance armor comes into play as a disillusioned Speedball switches from his Speedball persona to Penance persona when he finds out his new friends are villains manipulating him).

Ultimately the Thunderbolts defeat the Marauders and save the town and when the authorities come to take the Marauders away, the town helps the team flee so they don't get arrested. Jolt and Speedball meanwhile go with them, to keep them on the straight and narrow.

Think Happy Texas meets Three Amigos. You still have the shock twist but it's played straightforward and you still have it in play so you can do sequel films to have the team still posing has heroes and save off the big reveal where the world finds out they are villains and use that to translate them getting accepted as heroes after they've racked up enough good deeds so people believe that they've reformed.

 

[Soulless4510]

The best way to do Thunderbolts at this point, is to do it as a low stakes type deal along the lines of Ant Man.

Moonstone, Fixer, Songbird, Beetle, Goliath are a bunch of minor super-villain criminals being moved to the Vault (super-villain prison) in Colorado with another major villain and that major villain crashes the prison van and basically kills the guards and rescues their man and leaves the rest to die in the flaming wreckage. But the villains survive and wander into a middle america town in the middle of nowhere and through a series of events, ends up stopping a robbery while in costume. The town thanks them and realizing no one recognizes them, Beetle claims they are actually heroes and agree to set up shop in town until they can split up and go their separate ways. They end up shacking up with Speedball and Jolt, who for the sake of the story are step-siblings with Speedball's dad marrying Jolt's mom and Speedball's dad being an anti-hero prosecutor type who doesn't like super heroes.

One of the robbers they beat up however turns out to be the sibling of another major villain and that villain brings his own crew to town to free his brother. For synergy and holy shit we are fucked sake, have the villain team be the motherfucking Marauders from X-Men and Sabretooth is the villain in jail that the Thunderbolts beat up to gain the love of the townspeople.

The Thunderbolts have to decide to either fight the Marauders (who are the most dangerous team of murderers in the Marvel Universe) and save the town, or flee and let the Marauders kill everyone as they free Sabretooth. Meanwhile Speedball and Jolt find out that the Thunderbolts are fake heroes/villains and decide to fight the bad guys themselves (bonus points, the Penance armor comes into play as a disillusioned Speedball switches from his Speedball persona to Penance persona when he finds out his new friends are villains manipulating him).

Ultimately the Thunderbolts defeat the Marauders and save the town and when the authorities come to take the Marauders away, the town helps the team flee so they don't get arrested. Jolt and Speedball meanwhile go with them, to keep them on the straight and narrow.

Think Happy Texas meets Three Amigos. You still have the shock twist but it's played straightforward and you still have it in play so you can do sequel films to have the team still posing has heroes and save off the big reveal where the world finds out they are villains and use that to translate them getting accepted as heroes after they've racked up enough good deeds so people believe that they've reformed.

Interesting stuff but I do detect a bit of High Noon with the gang of villains heading into town and lone heroes trying to save it.

Also you guys need to watch High noon its great

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Mah Chinamen!!!!!

The rise in attacks on Asians isn't because of whites hating Asians because of Pmurt, but because quite a lot of blacks see Asians as a race of exploiters that run convenience stores in ghettos and own the companies that make black hair products or whatever but aren't connected to the black community as a whole. This isn't just limited to Asians - there's a lot of hatred toward Assyrians, Maronites and Arabs for the same reasons, and that's before you get black nationalists started on the Jews.

Fuck knows what he was trying to say but the Gunpowder Plot wasn't backed by the Vatican, and Moviebob places himself on the same level as Jack Chick and his worldwide Jesuit conspiracy by trying to imply it was.

The Gunpowder Plot was carried out by a group of English Catholic noblemen who were opposed to the recusancy laws (basically laws saying people had to pay heavy taxes or convert to Anglicanism) and were wary that James I would force through a bill allowing Catholics to be burnt.

It was part of a movement in Catholic theology that said it was licit to kill a tyrant, which is how many Catholics in England viewed King James and which is why Henry III of France was assassinated by a member of the Catholic League, as well as part of the English Reformation which was bloody on all sides. Implying that it was somehow different to Protestant plots like it, either in England or on the Continent, is as fallacious as calling Mary I ”Bloody Mary” or waving Foxe's Book of Martyrs around while ignoring Henry VIII and Edward VI's persecutions.

(because his waifus in Congress said it's bad)

Did they, though? I'm not sure I can remember any of them really talking about crypto.

 

[Adamska]

> arguing that Burgerland needs to invade ”ecocidal regimes”
> simping for China

Pick one, and only one.

Can't. He's too retarded to even realize he's double-thinking on stuff like that.

And since Bob brought up the place that gave him his GodBear tier experience; Disney World does suck shit to go to now. They only recently replaced the piss monorails and the whole place is filled with stupid unfinished areas and fucking instagram walls.

It's not for families, it's for manchildren.

 

[Oliver Onions]

The whole Thanos thing was the main sore spot of the MCU, how could they link a cosmic villain who achieved omnipotence get in a fight with a guy who throws a shield around.

Awnser, they couldn't, and whatever made the Infinity Gauntlet comic storyline fun, it was lost in the movies, that at this point don't even pretend to have anything to do with the comics besides easter eggs for the retards like Robert.

You seem well read on the topic so maybe you can help explain my biggest problem with Endgame: If they knew that the second gauntlet was too powerful for a human to use why didn't they just let Captain Marvel use it instead of Tony, since she's been established as OP Stunning & Brave Kween of the Universe?

I know from a narrative perspective it had to be Tony because killing him off was more dramatic, but it's bugged the fuck out of me ever since because it seemed like such a glaringly obvious solution that absolutely no one on the team entertained; unless it was mentioned and my brain was just too fried at that point from the 30-minute CG battle.

 

[Mr Snek]

You seem well read on the topic so maybe you can help explain my biggest problem with Endgame: If they knew that the second gauntlet was too powerful for a human to use why didn't they just let Captain Marvel use it instead of Tony, since she's been established as OP Stunning & Brave Kween of the Universe?

I know from a narrative perspective it had to be Tony because killing him off was more dramatic, but it's bugged the fuck out of me ever since because it seemed like such a glaringly obvious solution that absolutely no one on the team entertained; unless it was mentioned and my brain was just too fried at that point from the 30-minute CG battle.

If you want the real reason, it's because Captain Marvel was never meant to be in Endgame or the MCU in general at that point. Her entire existence in the series was shoved in at the last second. Actually all of Endgame was rushed, from writing to production, iirc it was revealed that much of Endgame was literally written over a few days as it was being filmed. Can't remember the source on that though.

 

[Oliver Onions]

The rise in attacks on Asians isn't because of whites hating Asians because of Pmurt, but because quite a lot of blacks see Asians as a race of exploiters that run convenience stores in ghettos and own the companies that make black hair products or whatever but aren't connected to the black community as a whole. This isn't just limited to Asians - there's a lot of hatred toward Assyrians, Maronites and Arabs for the same reasons, and that's before you get black nationalists started on the Jews.

I'm still trying to track down that documentary about the LA Riots focusing on the Asian community (including based Roof Koreans) where they explain how much shit they put up with from the black community because Asians actually work to build businesses and provide for their families and the dindus hate it because it exposes their 'muh oppression' bullshit for exactly what it is: an excuse to be lazy.

If you want the real reason, it's because Captain Marvel was never meant to be in Endgame or the MCU in general at that point. Her entire existence in the series was shoved in at the last second. Actually all of Endgame was rushed, from writing to production, iirc it was revealed that much of Endgame was literally written over a few days as it was being filmed. Can't remember the source on that though.

So it's basically like if they introduced Super Saiyans into original Dragon Ball, letting Goku instantly body every conceivable threat?

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

Fuck knows what he was trying to say but the Gunpowder Plot wasn't backed by the Vatican, and Moviebob places himself on the same level as Jack Chick and his worldwide Jesuit conspiracy by trying to imply it was.

The Gunpowder Plot was carried out by a group of English Catholic noblemen who were opposed to the recusancy laws (basically laws saying people had to pay heavy taxes or convert to Anglicanism) and were wary that James I would force through a bill allowing Catholics to be burnt.

It was part of a movement in Catholic theology that said it was licit to kill a tyrant, which is how many Catholics in England viewed King James and which is why Henry III of France was assassinated by a member of the Catholic League, as well as part of the English Reformation which was bloody on all sides. Implying that it was somehow different to Protestant plots like it, either in England or on the Continent, is as fallacious as calling Mary I ”Bloody Mary” or waving Foxe's Book of Martyrs around while ignoring Henry VIII and Edward VI's persecutions.

Also, something that really irks me and that is usually overlooked by brainlets like Bob and those that belive that posting propaganda on mass media is the most epic and revolutionary thing to do: if you actually posed a threat in any way shape or form to the stablishment or the powers that be, they will crack down on you harder than the ATF went down on Wacko. They live this deranged fantasy of somehow being persecuted by society while being largely accepted and having their ideas and talking points being parroted by mainstream media, corporations and celebrities. At one point, any sane person would stop and think "Hey, there is something wrong here". But their brains are smoother than a pair of recently ironed trousers.

And on Bob's talk of being "endorsed by foreign powers"... Is he that retarded? Does he really think that posting on American mass media and not being persecuted by American law enforcement is being supported by someone else? I know that China definetly wants to throw America into a wood chipper and that's why they would support retards like Bob (if they actually had some value). But at one point he would think that maybe when you are supported by foreign powers the thing they do is send you weapons, food and things to support your fight, not allowing you to spout drivel.

I know i'm way over my head, but it's really amazing how Bob's terrible ignorance surprises me time and time again. It's the gift that keeps on giving

 

[Mr Snek]

So it's basically like if they introduced Super Saiyans into original Dragon Ball, letting Goku instantly body every conceivable threat?

Hm, I'm not that big into DBZ but it'd be more like if Vegeta showed up in the original Dragon Ball halfway through as a good guy, except because the writers hadn't planned on him being there they keep having to write him out until the fights and give some reason why he doesn't just stomp everything. It's why Captain Marvel fucks off for 90% of the movie and only shows up for the final fight and has no impact on things, because she was never meant to be there in the first place. It's less about how powerful she is and more about the overall plot not having her in it at all.

 

[Emperor Julian]

Hm, I'm not that big into DBZ but it'd be more like if Vegeta showed up in the original Dragon Ball halfway through as a good guy, except because the writers hadn't planned on him being there they keep having to write him out until the fights and give some reason why he doesn't just stomp everything. It's why Captain Marvel fucks off for 90% of the movie and only shows up for the final fight and has no impact on things, because she was never meant to be there in the first place. It's less about how powerful she is and more about the overall plot not having her in it at all.

I've always thought that Captain marvel in her modern conception in both comics and film is malformed, she's obviously a product of a series of corporate comitee decisions. Effectively she's trying to be Marvels Superman but pretty much everything about her feels artificial rather than developed and this cultivates resentment due to bad writting. She's bassically poochie.