Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[Koby_Fish]

The latest esteemed director on the chopping block is -- renowned feminist Jane Campion! (Variety article)
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I have no interest in hearing a director's opinion on politics, just as I have no interest in what a Micheline chef thinks about puppy mills. BTW if Bobby were indeed versed in the painting scene, he'd have known that no one has ever managed to get a straight answer from Gerhard Richter; this man is a master of evasion.

Still, to Bobby's consolation, queer advocate Pedro Almodóvar says he'd be interested to do Batgirl.

Gwen Stacy:
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(8 minutes)

In an uncharacteristic display of humility, Bobby says he needs to brush up on the history of pop music:
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(Patchen Mortimer's thread)

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The latest T/B debate. I wish Lass_Library could define Thinker and Believer on Bobby's behalf because he obviously understands the terms so well.
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Bob's warped concept of "If you scratch a person who doesn't like X, you'll find a Drumpf Supporter/Natzee! So ask them about Drumpf or whatever!" is so smoothbrainedly insane, it's unreal. Like, dude was so traumatized by the Holy Autism War(tm), that he really thinks that if you learn some celeb/director's opinions on politics, that you'll know which things they don't like and why. Unreal.

 

[Donuteater]

Most importantly, looking back, Iron Man does have the advantage of coming first. Now that we have over two dozen MCU films (and another eight already announced, Jesus) and several MCU TV shows (and another dozen announced, Jesus), it's easy to get lost in the mundane sameness of it all, where every character is firing off quips every few seconds, where every fight is a CGI monstrosity with zero tension, where there's really no drama because deep down you know there's no stakes. Iron Man is almost innocent in comparison: there's actual drama in the script, you get a feel for Tony as a character and the struggles he faces, and the climactic battle, even though it's the ol' "hero fights bad version of himself" that has popped up over and over again in the movies that follow, feels fresher because it's the first time around. I'm not saying Iron Man was high art, but it certainly feels more unique than the many imitations that followed.

Phase 1 also worked well since it was 5 different films, spread out over 4 years, and ending in the big team up movie. At the time, the MCU was a risk. Now, it's expected.

 

[JayHarrison]

In an uncharacteristic display of humility, Bobby says he needs to brush up on the history of pop music:
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Moviebob would be better off investing time into learning about actual history history, starting with the evils his own political party is responsible for.

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Despite that happy emoji seen here, I can easily imagine Moviebob is seeting in anger at the fact this particular January 6th participant is only getting 41 months instead of 41 years.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

Bob's quasi-religious concept concerning "Thinkers" over "Believers" is, "superstition holds science back." Which can be true to a point (certain cultural taboos for instance against tampering with a body after death is not conducive to a murder investigation where a full autopsy would help pursue justice and catch the killer, all because some backwards-thinking individuals are afraid giving a dead person an autopsy will pretty much send them to hell or the equivalent, of and through no fault of their own.)

Yet Bob behaves as though he thinks (believes) that Progress cannot be made unless every woman who *could* have an abortion does have one (women hold up half the sky in the soopeeryah fyootchah, and it's hard to do that while holding babby), the Holy Soopeeryah Fyootchah will be delayed. Or he acts like Aborted Fetuses are crucial to the development of superconducters, microchips, his future bing bing wahoo brain, and the rockets of the future are powered by their corpses. For someone who likes to call whitey "Mayonnaise Wasteland Ghouls", his insistence on all abortions that could happen must happen makes him quite the literal Ghoul himself. After all, smoothbrains such as himself handwave the very idea that the next Einstein may have been snuffed out prematurely due to "choice", which actually would delay the soopeeryah fyootchah. Guess those future einsteins are growing on trees out there, bobby?

Anyone wanna tell Bob that black children make up 33 percent of all aborted children, despite blacks only making up 13 percent of the country? The only conclusion we can come to is that Bob hates black people and wants to see fewer of them born. Based White Supremacist Bob!

I can't wait to see the Annual White Trash Festival known as Thanksgiving at the Chipman Family Home. We should have a Chipman Celebration Bingo Card to mark the occasion. Here are a few suggestions I've come up with so far:


Gray, unshampooed carpet

Relatives fat enough to appear on reality shows about fat people

Bottles of half-drunk Hipster Booze being held by stubby hands

Unsafely prepared food

Freshly made food that looks moldy.

Awkward, grimacing smiles

Living Rooms that look like Home Alone Burglar Traps because of all of the toys and garbage that have been littered everywhere

Creepy Doll Collections

The finest Martha Stewart Living House and Table Decorations- if Martha Stewart were living in an alternate Bizarro universe where she grew up in a trailer park.


...anyone else have any ideas?

 

[Koby_Fish]

Anyone wanna tell Bob that black children make up 33 percent of all aborted children, despite blacks only making up 13 percent of the country? The only conclusion we can come to is that Bob hates black people and wants to see fewer of them born. Based White Supremacist Bob!

I can't wait to see the Annual White Trash Festival known as Thanksgiving at the Chipman Family Home. We should have a Chipman Celebration Bingo Card to mark the occasion. Here are a few suggestions I've come up with so far:


Gray, unshampooed carpet

Relatives fat enough to appear on reality shows about fat people

Bottles of half-drunk Hipster Booze being held by stubby hands

Unsafely prepared food

Freshly made food that looks moldy.

Awkward, grimacing smiles

Living Rooms that look like Home Alone Burglar Traps because of all of the toys and garbage that have been littered everywhere

Creepy Doll Collections

The finest Martha Stewart Living House and Table Decorations- if Martha Stewart were living in an alternate Bizarro universe where she grew up in a trailer park.


...anyone else have any ideas?

I'm positive Bob is ignorant of this fact, but even were he aware, it would make no difference. Babies oppress women just by existing. Whitey "makes" PeeOhCees (and other whamen) "have babies" and then "steal" them (but if the person didn't want the baby in the first place, how the fuck is it STEALING?!) Black or White, fetuses aren't people according to him. You can't be racist to a non-person, after all (which incidentally is why he says people can't be racist to whites Mayonnaise Ghouls.). Why, the poor oppressed PeeOhCee whamen that do all the abortifying are just helping themselves to bring about the Soopeeryah Fyootchah! Maybe a babby or three is what was preventing them from going into STEM and inventing Moon Wheat! We need to grind all the abortions into fertilizer so we can even grow wheat on the damn moon in the first place! - Bob, Probably.

Christmas at Casa de Chippa or Mama Chipman probably also like so:

* Deep-fried Butterball Turkey (hey, it's a step up from Mountain Dew or Sriracha 5 day marinated Chicken)

* Dusty Christmas Decorations that are dusty because they've been left up all year instead of putting them away, and then never get dusted because Chipmans are allergic to housework

* The Eternal Christmas Cake that keeps getting passed around from person to person year after year, with nobody having ever taken a piece out of it, and nobody ever will, because it's probably fossilized by now

* Chippa whining to garner further Patrons on his Patreon by crying in his beer about how is he going to afford crimmus presents for his exceptional children when he's probably going to have to sell his house to pay for the out of control renovation expenses

* A christmas tree made entirely of empty beer cans, which probably shoulda been recycled so they could at least get the deposit back and have enough to spend on crimmus pressies

 

[Adamska]

It's funny how when this thread talks about comics and shit, it's even more insightful than the shit Bob spews since people ITT are real fans of actual comics compared to Bob who just reads a wikipedia summary and acts like he's some sort of expert. Like hell I bet he doesn't even pay attention to the movies he cherishes since he misses the point of many of them

I mean; I'll give Bob this: he probably at least watched the cartoons even if he can't honestly remember them due to forcing his reality through them. He just goes far out when he tries to pretend he's a serious comic fan. Ain't no way he ever held a copy of Journey into Mystery #83 like I have courtesy of my relative who read them when they were a kid.

Also he at no point knew about 85 - 95% of the Rogues and Heroes until he googled them.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Apropos of nothing, Twitter user Orwell and Goode posted this meme, which reminded me of our favorite diabetic dictator*.

*If it wasn't for the fact that there's only one small tub of popcorn and there's only one big gulp, this would be a perfect rendition of Moviebob at the theater.

Bob's warped concept of "If you scratch a person who doesn't like X, you'll find a Drumpf Supporter/Natzee! So ask them about Drumpf or whatever!" is so smoothbrainedly insane, it's unreal. Like, dude was so traumatized by the Holy Autism War(tm), that he really thinks that if you learn some celeb/director's opinions on politics, that you'll know which things they don't like and why. Unreal.

It's not just Gamergate, it's also Trump's election. Remember, the Superior Future was around the corner, and by 2017 we'd all be saying "Madame President." In his mind, Trump's election cost him his robot body and an eternity of Marvel and Bing Bing Wahoo, and he wants retribution.

 

[IDM]

Bob's quasi-religious concept concerning "Thinkers" over "Believers" is, "superstition holds science back." Which can be true to a point (certain cultural taboos for instance against tampering with a body after death is not conducive to a murder investigation where a full autopsy would help pursue justice and catch the killer, all because some backwards-thinking individuals are afraid giving a dead person an autopsy will pretty much send them to hell or the equivalent, of and through no fault of their own.)

Yet Bob behaves as though he thinks (believes) that Progress cannot be made unless every woman who *could* have an abortion does have one (women hold up half the sky in the soopeeryah fyootchah, and it's hard to do that while holding babby), the Holy Soopeeryah Fyootchah will be delayed. Or he acts like Aborted Fetuses are crucial to the development of superconducters, microchips, his future bing bing wahoo brain, and the rockets of the future are powered by their corpses. For someone who likes to call whitey "Mayonnaise Wasteland Ghouls", his insistence on all abortions that could happen must happen makes him quite the literal Ghoul himself. After all, smoothbrains such as himself handwave the very idea that the next Einstein may have been snuffed out prematurely due to "choice", which actually would delay the soopeeryah fyootchah. Guess those future einsteins are growing on trees out there, bobby?

I find the way people approach this clearly false dichotomy strange. Obviously it is false and people don't really need to think about that they just see it as it is. But then, when they start thinking, odd ideas like this 'quasi-religious' stuff comes out. So what is the difference between let's say 'thought' and 'belief'? Well... Ostensibly I'd say there's actually not a lot of difference. I could ask the question do you think/believe so and so and they are practically both the same question no?

This is where the false dichotomy reveals itself and falls flat on it's 'autistic' 'smooth-brained' face as you fellows love to say. The only tangible difference, at least that I can identify here, is the difference between action and contemplation. The way the human brain works is that you are either doing one or the other at any given time. You simply cannot do both at once which often causes people to freeze when they are unable to decide what they need to do for a variety of reasons. Ideally these things combine however in manner that allows a person to act on their 'thoughts' in a way that is congruent with any 'beliefs' they are in possession of.

What's most egregious about the way this false dichotomy approaches this is it precludes the possibility of what we'll call 'thoughtful belief'. In fact all 'belief' is arrived at by 'thought' and if said 'thought' does not lead to said 'belief' it is in fact useless. Impotent. For instance if I ask the question 'do you believe in this dichotomy' one is then trapped between the proverbial rock and hard place. There can be no right answer here. If I do 'believe' I am a 'believer' therefore as described. If I do not 'believe' I must discard the reasoning (or lack thereof) entirely as fallacious as having stopped to think about it I cannot possibly accept it by the parameters given unless it is by the very pejoratives mentioned regarding 'belief'. The word for that is 'hypocrisy' which does indeed get bandied about rather a lot with regard to 'religion' contributing to this odd digression no doubt but make no mistake. This is actually very simple and straightforward.

Thought without belief exists. But all thought serves the inherent purpose of arriving at belief. Anything else would be mere procrastination. Think of it in terms of the most basic aspects of the scientific method. One constructs an experiment based on what they have decided/reasoned/believe will provide the results they hope for which they then put into action. Without said belief there can be no action.

 

[King Dead]

Phase 1 also worked well since it was 5 different films, spread out over 4 years, and ending in the big team up movie. At the time, the MCU was a risk. Now, it's expected.

Yeah, it's hard to remember sometimes how much of a gamble Marvel was taking on the MCU. Nobody had ever tried producing a bunch of different superhero movies and then pulling all those characters together into one big spectacular finale. Yet that's what they did, and it paid off in spades.

Despite being done with Marvel movies as a whole (though I still might see GotG3 because I still enjoy that series, it's more or less self-contained from the rest of the bullshit, and The Suicide Squad proved James Gunn is still good at capeshit), I will still give the MCU credit for managing to hold together more or less cohesively for over a decade and delivering a mostly satisfying conclusion with Endgame. It had its problems and planted the seeds for the current multiverse insanity that's coming down the pipe, but it managed to wrap up a decade of plot threads and served as a good stopping point.

The problem, as always, is that Hollywood isn't done beating a dead horse until it's been reduced to a bloody smear on the ground, and even then they'll keep at it for a few more years. It's the same reason why Star Wars has been floundering ever since TROS flopped. Star Wars used to be a special event, with years between films and decades between the trilogies. Disney decided instead to try pumping out a new Star Wars film every single year, and even if they had been good movies (which they very clearly were not), it would take away what set it apart. Now they aren't producing more movies, but there's a glut of TV shows on the way, proving they didn't take this lesson to heart. Of course, you can also point to the MCU and its massive slate of eight announced films and another nine TV shows over the next two years to show that Disney really doesn't know when to quit.

And while the consoomers will keep eating it up (a la the image @Sexy Senior Citizen posted), the public in general is probably ready to move on. Dune might not have been a runaway success, but the fact it made $350m theatrically on a $165m budget when it was also available on HBO Max is nothing to sneeze at; given how quickly WB greenlit the sequel, they must have been happy with the results. Meanwhile, Eternals is at $285m on a $200m budget, exclusively in theaters, and has only been out two weeks less than Dune. I'm not saying this is going to start a trend towards long, pontificating sci-fi and away from capeshit, but to me, it suggests that there's at least some appetite for something different. All trends die off at some point, and consoomers like Blobbo are deluding themselves if they think otherwise.

 

[Foltest]

Whenever I see Bob speg about “thinkers and believers” I roll my eyes so hard.
Bob is the biggest believer I have ever seen.
He is a political zelot, who see everyone who don’t think as him, to be less then human and deserves nothing by contempt.
As our dear Bob only think in pop culture l, I would say Bob is like a zealot from wh40k and specific, the word bears legion of the forces of Chaos. Expect, he is not a bad ass chaos marine. He is one of their zeolot followers who everyone look down in contempt.

 

[DarkEmoMario64]

You could replace the word Believers with the word Moviebobs, and the resulting statement would have more basis in reality, simply because Moviebob has literally contributed nothing beneficial to society at large.

To be honest Movie Bobs reviews have actually improved as of lately and by that I mean they are not what they were during the Joker and Disney Star Wars sequel era of Movie Bob reviews. Even with all the unessary LGBT bullshit that he pulled in his Venom: Let There Be Carnage review it was still better YMS review of the flick which spends more time discussing the format of the theater then the actuall film

 

[Laughingjoke2]

I have a soft spot for CA: The First Avenger (mostly the first half) because Joe Johnston doing a period piece that's completely earnest like he did with The Rocketeer is going to have my attention. The studio completely stripping Hydra of Nazi iconography kind of ruins it though.

I like the film but it is funny when you realize in the MCU Red Skull killed more actual Nazis than Captain America.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

As our dear Bob only think in pop culture l, I would say Bob is like a zealot from wh40k and specific, the word bears legion of the forces of Chaos. Expect, he is not a bad ass chaos marine. He is one of their zeolot followers who everyone look down in contempt.

Nah, I'd say he'd be a cultist in the Emperor's Children. He'd constantly be hoping to get some sweet daemonette ass, begging the likes of Fabius Bile to make him a fully fledged Space Marine (Superior Future, baby!), and would end his days as cannon fodder sent headlong into the Imperium's gun lines.

 

[Force and Character]

Nah, I'd say he'd be a cultist in the Emperor's Children. He'd constantly be hoping to get some sweet daemonette ass, begging the likes of Fabius Bile to make him a fully fledged Space Marine (Superior Future, baby!), and would end his days as cannon fodder sent headlong into the Imperium's gun lines.

Becoming a cultist would take some self-awareness on his part. I think Bob would be the kind of guy who embodies the worst vices of all the Chaos gods - always getting angry at random stuff, eternally thirsty and hedonistic consoomer, lazy and disgusting slob, has absurd ambitions way outside his reach - but thinks he's a model citizen and cheers for the Inquisition to crack down on those obsolete wasteland mutants.

 

[The Ugly One]

I find the way people approach this clearly false dichotomy strange. Obviously it is false and people don't really need to think about that they just see it as it is. But then, when they start thinking, odd ideas like this 'quasi-religious' stuff comes out. So what is the difference between let's say 'thought' and 'belief'? Well... Ostensibly I'd say there's actually not a lot of difference. I could ask the question do you think/believe so and so and they are practically both the same question no?

This is where the false dichotomy reveals itself and falls flat on it's 'autistic' 'smooth-brained' face as you fellows love to say. The only tangible difference, at least that I can identify here, is the difference between action and contemplation. The way the human brain works is that you are either doing one or the other at any given time. You simply cannot do both at once which often causes people to freeze when they are unable to decide what they need to do for a variety of reasons. Ideally these things combine however in manner that allows a person to act on their 'thoughts' in a way that is congruent with any 'beliefs' they are in possession of.

What's most egregious about the way this false dichotomy approaches this is it precludes the possibility of what we'll call 'thoughtful belief'. In fact all 'belief' is arrived at by 'thought' and if said 'thought' does not lead to said 'belief' it is in fact useless. Impotent. For instance if I ask the question 'do you believe in this dichotomy' one is then trapped between the proverbial rock and hard place. There can be no right answer here. If I do 'believe' I am a 'believer' therefore as described. If I do not 'believe' I must discard the reasoning (or lack thereof) entirely as fallacious as having stopped to think about it I cannot possibly accept it by the parameters given unless it is by the very pejoratives mentioned regarding 'belief'. The word for that is 'hypocrisy' which does indeed get bandied about rather a lot with regard to 'religion' contributing to this odd digression no doubt but make no mistake. This is actually very simple and straightforward.

Thought without belief exists. But all thought serves the inherent purpose of arriving at belief. Anything else would be mere procrastination. Think of it in terms of the most basic aspects of the scientific method. One constructs an experiment based on what they have decided/reasoned/believe will provide the results they hope for which they then put into action. Without said belief there can be no action.

For Blobert, the difference between "thinker" and "believer" is not nearly that complex. It's nothing more than a difference between what you consoom, because for Bob, there is no reality beyond consooming. A "thinker" is someone who smartly chooses to consoom thinker-person media, like the Maddow show, and a "believer" is someone who stupidly chooses to go to church. Blobert claps like a trained seal when a Certified Science Person, such as Anthony Fauci, comes on his TV screen. That makes him a "thinker."

 

[Steelatlas]

Bob's quasi-religious concept concerning "Thinkers" over "Believers" is, "superstition holds science back." Which can be true to a point (certain cultural taboos for instance against tampering with a body after death is not conducive to a murder investigation where a full autopsy would help pursue justice and catch the killer, all because some backwards-thinking individuals are afraid giving a dead person an autopsy will pretty much send them to hell or the equivalent, of and through no fault of their own.)

Yet Bob behaves as though he thinks (believes) that Progress cannot be made unless every woman who *could* have an abortion does have one (women hold up half the sky in the soopeeryah fyootchah, and it's hard to do that while holding babby), the Holy Soopeeryah Fyootchah will be delayed. Or he acts like Aborted Fetuses are crucial to the development of superconducters, microchips, his future bing bing wahoo brain, and the rockets of the future are powered by their corpses. For someone who likes to call whitey "Mayonnaise Wasteland Ghouls", his insistence on all abortions that could happen must happen makes him quite the literal Ghoul himself. After all, smoothbrains such as himself handwave the very idea that the next Einstein may have been snuffed out prematurely due to "choice", which actually would delay the soopeeryah fyootchah. Guess those future einsteins are growing on trees out there, bobby?

Well actually. The taboos against autopsy make a lot of sense before sanitation became a thing. Which was fairly recent that the doctors started washing their hands between the morgue and the maternity wing.

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

Too bad the MCU doesn't have actual human stories where people get over internal struggles and arc into greater nuanced views of the world and their responsibilities. At this point everything is just hollywood celebrity #42 fighting ever increasingly cartoony bad guys while making quips and posturing. Oh don't forget mandatory dinner table scenes where people in weird costumes do something totally normal! Shazam? More like Shawarma!

Morality? Nuance? Human interest and motivation beyond beating up evil men? Forget that

Honestly, I feel like DC and MCU would be if they made their cartoons and movies more realistic. And when I say realistic, I mean believable.

They should make their characters more human in nature, give them actual goals, motivations, flaws and insecurities.

And not just the characters, the world-building too. In my opinion, they fucked up Wakanda.

They made it a futuristic sci-fi city where people live in glowing spires, a forcefield dome, sonic weaponry and a fleet of laser-armed, hovercraft with cloaking capabilities.

But at the same time their city at the ground-level still has dirt roads, wooden huts, ranches and their entire ground forces consist of unarmored, melee-armed infantry with spears and sickles.

And to top it all off, they still have tribal warlords and trial-by-combat leadership duels.

You see where I’m going here?

 

[Positron]

* Deep-fried Butterball Turkey

A Chipman specialty.

 

[Mola Ram]

A Chipman specialty.

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It's probably not going to happen, but "KILLED IN TURKEY EXPLOSION" would be such a fitting obituary for both Chipman brothers.

 

[TopTierHealer]

A Chipman specialty.

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Still beats the nightmare turkey they posted last year.