Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[A Very Big Fish]

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For context, this is Robert replying a post where the Critical Drinker bitches about Galadriel doing some wire-fu in the new amazon Lord of the Rings shit.

And again, this is another situation that I don't know if Robert is serious or just trolling, because if serious, can't Robert read or understand simple figure of speach?

I'm no Tolkien expert (I've only read the main 3 books and I sorta remember the Hobbit as a kid), but it was very clear that whenever Tolkien described elves, it was as if they were these ethereal, elegant creatures as a way to separate them from humans, but it was more a figure of speach in how the Elves presented themselves, as being these immaculate pristine beings.

So when Tolkien wrote that Legolas barely left foot prints, it doesn't mean that the guy has the weight of a feather, it just means that Legolas is extremely swift and dextrous, and even kids understand that, because to take it literally would mean that even a gust of wind would sweep a Elf away.

Also no Robert, Elves aren't stronger than humans. I can't recall if Tolkien ever wrote in the books about the Elves "power level" manga style, but the only thing it was made clear was that elves, Legolas in particular, was more agile and swift than the others, that's about it.

For the Tolkien heads here, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong,

You can check Tolkien's letters and they're very similar to humans. They mature mentally quicker than humans, though physically they age slower (physical maturity is at like age 50 iirc) the main difference is spiritual versus anything physical. They're deeply connected to magic and to Middle Earth itself, assuming they aren't slain or die of some outside factor, they remain a part of the World until Eru Illuvatar brings the world to an end.

One thing the books mention but isn't as apparent in the films is that destroying The One Ring will cause magic to fade away meaning the elves will have no choice but to go to the undying lands, whereas in the movies, they just kinda do it for reasons that are a bit more vague.

Honestly when they show off superior skill, I think its less a racial trait and more that they've literally had millenia to practice their skills and they don't have to worry about age affecting their abilities.

Either way, the only thing about LotR RoP that I care about are all the memes.

 

[King Dead]

I would also like to point out that Bob, ever the pussyass bitch that he is, quote-tweeted Drinker to not show up in his replies, did so three days later, and then limited replies to only those he follows, all to avoid people rightly calling him out on his awful butchery of Tolkien lore.

What a fucking pansy. If you can't take the heat, get the fuck off of Twitter, lardass.

 

[NaviSpider]

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For context, this is Robert replying a post where the Critical Drinker bitches about Galadriel doing some wire-fu in the new amazon Lord of the Rings shit.

And again, this is another situation that I don't know if Robert is serious or just trolling, because if serious, can't Robert read or understand simple figure of speach?

I'm no Tolkien expert (I've only read the main 3 books and I sorta remember the Hobbit as a kid), but it was very clear that whenever Tolkien described elves, it was as if they were these ethereal, elegant creatures as a way to separate them from humans, but it was more a figure of speach in how the Elves presented themselves, as being these immaculate pristine beings.

So when Tolkien wrote that Legolas barely left foot prints, it doesn't mean that the guy has the weight of a feather, it just means that Legolas is extremely swift and dextrous, and even kids understand that, because to take it literally would mean that even a gust of wind would sweep a Elf away.

Also no Robert, Elves aren't stronger than humans. I can't recall if Tolkien ever wrote in the books about the Elves "power level" manga style, but the only thing it was made clear was that elves, Legolas in particular, was more agile and swift than the others, that's about it.

For the Tolkien heads here, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong,

Oh now Bob agrees with using the original text from the author, not from any love for the source material but because he can score a cheap dunk on Twitter. Well Bob, I guess that means you agree with everybody when they have a problem with beardless Dwarfs, or Sauron looking like a lesbian columbine shooter and not a fair and beautiful being? What about Galadriel being a badass warrior queen despite having never having touched a sword. Three things explicitly contradicted by the text.

Bob? Hello? Are you still there?

Also, Elves are not "extraordinarily lightweight" unless you compare them to Bob's floundering mass. It would be retarded if they were. They have sailed, fought battles, built cities. You cannot do any of this if a light breeze would knock you over. How would the elves have held any sort of battle line if a single charge from orcs would have sent them all flying? Legolas being able to walk on snow was not because he was light, if it was he'd weigh so little that he wouldn't even be able to draw his bow. And didn't everybody mock when Legolas defied gravity in the hobbit by jumping from one falling rock to another like it was fucking Mario? Why is it suddenly ok now that girlboss can do it?

 

[Positron]

Oh I thought Bobby has decided that "Canon isn't a thing"?

And no, even in a setting where magic rules, you still can't just pull any bullshit out of your ass. The setting delineates what is possible though such things as conversations and social conventions. If people never talked about Galadriel's swordsmanship (or even that she owns a sword), then it will be odd to give her a Crouching Tiger scene. If no one in the world ever cast doubt on the sex of a stranger they spend time alone with, then it suggests sex change magic isn't a legitimate part of the setting.

 

[Toxinophile]

Bobby shares his sick sexual fantasy:
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Someone photoshop Bobby and The Abortion on this please. If it is good I'll include it in my OP.

Hmm, I gave it a go but I'm not happy with the final design. Any suggestions from the audience?

Spoiler: First 2 Designs

EDIT: Added 2 new edits. I feel much more satisfied with these ones. Still open to viewer input.

Oh I thought Bobby has decided that "Canon isn't a thing"?

something something tactics, something something targets.

 

[Flexo]

IIRC from the last time I read the Similrion, if we were to list the free people of middle earth from strongest physically to weakest it would be,
Ents - Dwarves - Men - Elves - Hobbits

But save for Ents, it's not like there are absolute power levels. A dwarf version of Bobby who only exercised his thumbs would still lose in arm wrestling to Sam who worked in the gardens and fields all day. But this is LotR where magic and spiritual power come into play as well. Men also have certain battle prowess to them because they have true free will with fates that lie beyond the world. But Elves are fierce because they were literally the first race and got to invent war and every tactic.

Like AVP when Bob rants about something I know I just want to slap him.

(That but it's all Bobs.)

 

[Bolo]

Oh my God...

You know, with the Lord of the Rings bullshit, you would toss into the camp "Robert wiki a quote and tried to pass it as if he read the book" sort of claim.

But I'm sure he saw the first Predator, so question is, is he lying or does he genuinely misremember shit so he can make up these fanfictions on his head?

Dutch didn't goad shit, he was at the mercy of the predator with his throat to be crushed, when the predator decided to end it with a fist fight. Dutch just stood there in panic when the Predator took his mask off, just in time so Arnold could do his one liner gimmick (Ugly Motherfucker).

You could say it was macho pride that made the Predator to end the fight with his fists since Dutch was the one pushed him to a point, but then again you infer a ton of stuff, but point is, the Predator wasn't pushed to do anything, nor Dutch was playing on his "feelings", that would be asinine to downgrade a threatening villain of the movie to the audiences "oh, ya, you to hunta because you gota small dick? ya!"

Also, the fuck Trump Jr has to do with this shit? The 80's predator was hunting a group o highly trained soldiers armed to the teeth. Yes, the predator had the advantage of his high tech weapons and camouflage, but he was just one against a group, and it isn't like the predator was bullet proof (if it bleeds...), so no, Dutch's group had a very real chance to kill the Predator, and in the ambush scene they nearly did.

I know the usual suspects are shitting on the new Predator movie because girl boss kills a predator with a rope or some shit, whatever, middle aged Danny Glover took out a predator on 1v1 as well, who gives a shit really.

But you know, you don't have to make shit up on the orignal movie, or shit on it just to "defend" this new movie because of the diversity Girl boss, or even engage in this shit at all.

I haven't seen it, nor I'm all that interested, but word of mouth is that "Prey" seems to be a okay movie and it ain't like pretty girl going against monster and winning it is a original formula, fuck, it could be a entire movie genre of it's own.

So, you know, chill with the bullshit Robert.

 

[TheShortWaveCerealKiller]

Oh, look who decided to get in on the bitching, it's the worst Red Letter Media guy who's not Max Landis:

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Note, of course, that Bob and likely Jack do not care about fidelity to the source material at all (and oh my God is seeing Bob quote Tolkien doing dreadful things to my digestive tract), and regardless of whether this stuntwork is actually justifiable it still looks like shit and they don't care about that either. This is purely because they have decided the Wrong Sort of People are against BRAND, and therefore BRAND must be right, as ever.

That Critical Drinker is up to something like 5x Bob's Twitter followers also qualifies this as jealous anklebiting, but that's a given at this point.

I always hate when people try to use "hurr durr fantastical things happen all the time in this movie why are you questioning the logic?"
People forgoe the idea of INTERNAL LOGIC, something doesnt have to make sense in our world, but it needs to make sense in their world.
You cant tell me you need decades of training to jedi mind trick someone but then say next movie Rey just sucked the power from Kylo, it insults your audience for giving a fuck.
Jack is a tool anyways so fuck him.

 

[Lando Griffin]

Moviebob more like Movieblob.

Also I get Bob Chipman and MundaneMatt mixed up, I don't know why.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

I always hate when people try to use "hurr durr fantastical things happen all the time in this movie why are you questioning the logic?"
People forgoe the idea of INTERNAL LOGIC, something doesnt have to make sense in our world, but it needs to make sense in their world.
You cant tell me you need decades of training to jedi mind trick someone but then say next movie Rey just sucked the power from Kylo, it insults your audience for giving a fuck.
Jack is a tool anyways so fuck him.

Don't expect Bob to have a grasp on consistency within a story, consequence and logical framework. After all, he has a very thin grasp on consistency and consequence on his own life, don't expect him to put effort into applying it to fictional works.

Plus, don't hand it to Bob that having a framework on the laws and rules that can be used and done within a story makes it grounded and somewhat believable. If you can pull anything out of your ass within a setting, you will know nothing makes absolute sense and makes the story look horribly childish and more like the author's fantasy rather than an elaborate work of fiction. This is also another reason why people have Mary Sues/Gary Stus: the author constantly bends the rules of the universe for one special character and for that, people tend to hate that kind of characters.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

I always hate when people try to use "hurr durr fantastical things happen all the time in this movie why are you questioning the logic?"
People forgoe the idea of INTERNAL LOGIC, something doesnt have to make sense in our world, but it needs to make sense in their world.
You cant tell me you need decades of training to jedi mind trick someone but then say next movie Rey just sucked the power from Kylo, it insults your audience for giving a fuck.
Jack is a tool anyways so fuck him.

Don't expect Bob to have a grasp on consistency within a story, consequence and logical framework. After all, he has a very thin grasp on consistency and consequence on his own life, don't expect him to put effort into applying it to fictional works.

Plus, don't hand it to Bob that having a framework on the laws and rules that can be used and done within a story makes it grounded and somewhat believable. If you can pull anything out of your ass within a setting, you will know nothing makes absolute sense and makes the story look horribly childish and more like the author's fantasy rather than an elaborate work of fiction. This is also another reason why people have Mary Sues/Gary Stus: the author constantly bends the rules of the universe for one special character and for that, people tend to hate that kind of characters.

I absolutely love it. Bob (and people like Jack apparently) are constantly displaying they don't even know the basics of writing and argumentation, while their entire purpose for existing is to apparently evaluate this. (Many such cases of ignorance about proclaimed expertise.) And they spend all their time on their "hobby" of trying to dunk on people they've decided to not like for apparent contradictions in their speech or tweets. Bob actually surprised me by being self-aware enough to lock the replies on that tweet, it's probably just to avoid getting criticism but it could also mean he's aware enough of what he's doing that he's making himself so open to that criticism rather than his normal belief that he's totally dominated the discussion. I choose to be optimistic.

I want to make clear for the peanut gallery that I'm not complaining, Bob publicly destroying his own life by living it through willful contradictions and incoherence of theory is perfectly fine by me. His constant state of clear unceasing anger at others is his own fault for refusing to ever allow an sliver of self-reflection.

 

[Smithfield Ham]

Oh, look who decided to get in on the bitching, it's the worst Red Letter Media guy who's not Max Landis:

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Note, of course, that Bob and likely Jack do not care about fidelity to the source material at all (and oh my God is seeing Bob quote Tolkien doing dreadful things to my digestive tract), and regardless of whether this stuntwork is actually justifiable it still looks like shit and they don't care about that either. This is purely because they have decided the Wrong Sort of People are against BRAND, and therefore BRAND must be right, as ever.

That Critical Drinker is up to something like 5x Bob's Twitter followers also qualifies this as jealous anklebiting, but that's a given at this point.

Someone should really ask Jack, "do you support the vile, reprehensible shit Bob posts on Twitter?" Then something something RedLetterMedia reference.

 

[NaviSpider]

Someone should really ask Jack, "do you support the vile, reprehensible shit Bob posts on Twitter?" Then something something RedLetterMedia reference.

Doesn't Bob hate RLM anyway? I'm pretty sure he railed against their prequel reviews. And a lot of what they parody in the Nerd Crew could easily be applied to him. The fact that they're way more successful and beloved while not just reviewing pop culture trash all of the time must really get under his skin.

I don't mind Jack and he can be quite funny on BotW, but it's weird to see him associate with somebody as vile as Bob, and with such a stupid take. Do they interact much on the stupid bird app, or was this a one off?

 

[Flexo]

Also, the fuck Trump Jr has to do with this shit? The 80's predator was hunting a group o highly trained soldiers armed to the teeth. Yes, the predator had the advantage of his high tech weapons and camouflage, but he was just one against a group, and it isn't like the predator was bullet proof (if it bleeds...), so no, Dutch's group had a very real chance to kill the Predator, and in the ambush scene they nearly did.

Not only that, but his statement "this Predator is playing by a code that only gradually becomes clear to us" IS LITERALLY THE FIRST MOVIE AS WELL!

It's made blatantly obvious in the infamous "get to da choppa!" scene by that point where Arnold has figured out the Yautja won't attack the unarmed woman "because there's no sport in it" and disarms her to keep her alive.

Like the entire last half od the movie is about the protagonists figuring out the predator code.

What was Bob's whole bit about watching the actual movie and not making shit up?

I know the usual suspects are shitting on the new Predator movie because girl boss kills a predator with a rope or some shit, whatever, middle aged Danny Glover took out a predator on 1v1 as well, who gives a shit really.

Again, as an old school AvP fan I don't have a problem with a girl protagonist, it's her "I want to break the gender stereotypes and go hunting" that I find annoying. The division of labor in olden times wasn't some arbitrary invention. It was just that no woman actually wanted to go out in the cold and harsh woods to risk getting mauled by a bear when they can stay home in the warm tent with babies and knit. Because - you know - less DEATH there!

I don't mind Jack and he can be quite funny on BotW, but it's weird to see him associate with somebody as vile as Bob, and with such a stupid take. Do they interact much on the stupid bird app, or was this a one off?

They had a brief podcast together on the Escapist.

 

[Positron]

It's that time of the month again; lots of warning messages when I uploaded these caps. If they don't show, tell me.

Bizarrely, Bobby no longer insists Biden bomb Russia for some pothead sheboon (The highlight below is Bobby's; I cut-n-paste the original tweet for neat formatting)


Yet just before that.


Finding words is a hard task for Bobby.



Not more wishful than the WishDotSuperiorFuture Party, with a membership of one.

Imperialism is apparently just "no girls, no nigs".

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The MissTessWomen account has blocked everyone so I have no idea.




Regarding polio, it seems we need to treat America as a third-world country and revert to oral, live-attenuated Sabin-type vaccine. The vaccine-virus multiplies in the intestines of the inoculated, who will literally shit the vaccine out in the streets so the unvaccinated can get protected by eating food contaminated by shit particles.

Tulsi Gabbard accuses the Biden administration for actively promoting "treatments" to kids that the FDA has warned of dire risks -- and for the media's curious silence.


Big brained Angel, Zach Antolek:



Apparently "Langley" is an euphemism for CIA.

Elon Musk.

The last question suggests there might be common grounds between Musk and Bobby...

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Huge amount of rumors and allegations, as if anyone had the time for them.



This shit must be contagious, at least among primitive nervous systems.



DCEU is fucked up beyond repair:



The Time article is from 2015, BTW.

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Synder:

You decide whether it is clickbait or not.



No no no, Syndercut fans are not "right wing"; they are just "extremely not left wing".

It seems Bobby earned himself another friend!

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Prey -- and Bugs Bunny.




Dave Chappelle and similar "bad art":




Some ratty cartoon is a warning of Malthus.

Are we supposed to be surprised that environmental wokescolds are so easily dated?



The below is an example of what is called "duck" in architect slang. Bobby loves them because he can't resist kitsch.

 

[Mola Ram]

Someone should really ask Jack, "do you support the vile, reprehensible shit Bob posts on Twitter?" Then something something RedLetterMedia reference.

I don't mind Jack and he can be quite funny on BotW, but it's weird to see him associate with somebody as vile as Bob, and with such a stupid take. Do they interact much on the stupid bird app, or was this a one off?

It's covered more extensively in the Red Letter Media thread, but people have tried to call Jack out or at least warn him that associating with Bob is a terrible look for him. Along with their Escapist team up, I think Jack was a guest on one of Bob's reviews, which was what kicked off the realization that AIDS Moby had sufficiently terrible judgment to consider Bob a "colleague" he really wanted to work with. Jack's reaction to people's disgust for Bob was to tell them to fuck off.

Jack is not as vocal about sneering at fandom CHUDs as Bob is (who could possibly be on Bob's level when it comes to something like that!), but he has done things like approvingly link a lunatic article claiming to prove criticism of The Last Jedi was an alt-right conspiracy, which makes me think he has far less of a problem with Bob's loathsome behavior than you might think a midwestern guy who grew up on a farm would. Given his connections to RLM and by extension the Plinkett reviews, it was as shocking a lapse in judgment as his regard for Bob, but good luck confronting him about it on Twitter. You'll get a "fuck off" and most likely a block.

 

[Brother Wind]

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For context, this is Robert replying a post where the Critical Drinker bitches about Galadriel doing some wire-fu in the new amazon Lord of the Rings shit.

And again, this is another situation that I don't know if Robert is serious or just trolling, because if serious, can't Robert read or understand simple figure of speach?

I'm no Tolkien expert (I've only read the main 3 books and I sorta remember the Hobbit as a kid), but it was very clear that whenever Tolkien described elves, it was as if they were these ethereal, elegant creatures as a way to separate them from humans, but it was more a figure of speach in how the Elves presented themselves, as being these immaculate pristine beings.

So when Tolkien wrote that Legolas barely left foot prints, it doesn't mean that the guy has the weight of a feather, it just means that Legolas is extremely swift and dextrous, and even kids understand that, because to take it literally would mean that even a gust of wind would sweep a Elf away.

Also no Robert, Elves aren't stronger than humans. I can't recall if Tolkien ever wrote in the books about the Elves "power level" manga style, but the only thing it was made clear was that elves, Legolas in particular, was more agile and swift than the others, that's about it.

For the Tolkien heads here, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong,

Well if you do go Shonen Jump type power levels. Elves really are top tier. I think of the only two record Balrog kills in Middle Earth. An Elf did one and lived. A Maia died killing one. But Gandalf was on the lower end of them anyways. And even like a unit of elves is treated as way better than a unit of men. Tolkien really did think of Elves as better.

Which is besides so many points as he was exploring this idea of deathless beings versus those who were mortal. But more so, when people talked about Tolkien being unfilmable for years, they really didn't mean the Special Effects. They mostly mean the scale and scope, but also it is really hard to visually depict a lot of Tolkien. Like the age old shitpost of Gandalf is a bad wizard is the case here. Because what is Magic in Middle Earth? Like him being able to light shit up without a torch is seen as a huge deal. And on a side note, the conjurer of cheap tricks line always gets a kick out of me. Because he does that a lot.

But then you have to depict elves. Which are more amazing in subtle ways. Which the snow thing is honestly great. The wire fu is just the bastion of the uncreative. It was during The Hobbit. It is now.

And thats not even getting into how I feel even the trilogy butchered my girl Galadriel.

 

[The tired cat]

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I mean, the person wasn't wrong. Bullet Train was indeed fun, it really reminded me somewhat of a movie series I liked call Smockin' Aces.

 

[NaviSpider]

It's covered more extensively in the Red Letter Media thread, but people have tried to call Jack out or at least warn him that associating with Bob is a terrible look for him. Along with their Escapist team up, I think Jack was a guest on one of Bob's reviews, which was what kicked off the realization that AIDS Moby had sufficiently terrible judgment to consider Bob a "colleague" he really wanted to work with. Jack's reaction to people's disgust for Bob was to tell them to fuck off.

Jack is not as vocal about sneering at fandom CHUDs as Bob is (who could possibly be on Bob's level when it comes to something like that!), but he has done things like approvingly link a lunatic article claiming to prove criticism of The Last Jedi was an alt-right conspiracy, which makes me think he has far less of a problem with Bob's loathsome behavior than you might think a midwestern guy who grew up on a farm would. Given his connections to RLM and by extension the Plinkett reviews, it was as shocking a lapse in judgment as his regard for Bob, but good luck confronting him about it on Twitter. You'll get a "fuck off" and most likely a block.

That's a shame. Guilt by association is bad so I'm not going to hold Jack being on good terms with Bob against him, but it is strange. RLM are famous for their criticism of Star Wars, modern Star Trek and the state of superhero films, and Bob strikes me as the sort of guy who would not want anything to do with a group that dared criticise the Last Jedi or his precious MCU.

Not only that, but his statement "this Predator is playing by a code that only gradually becomes clear to us" IS LITERALLY THE FIRST MOVIE AS WELL!

It's made blatantly obvious in the infamous "get to da choppa!" scene by that point where Arnold has figured out the Yautja won't attack the unarmed woman "because there's no sport in it" and disarms her to keep her alive.

Like the entire last half od the movie is about the protagonists figuring out the predator code.

What was Bob's whole bit about watching the actual movie and not making shit up?

Again, as an old school AvP fan I don't have a problem with a girl protagonist, it's her "I want to break the gender stereotypes and go hunting" that I find annoying. The division of labor in olden times wasn't some arbitrary invention. It was just that no woman actually wanted to go out in the cold and harsh woods to risk getting mauled by a bear when they can stay home in the warm tent with babies and knit. Because - you know - less DEATH there!

The original Predator is a 99% male cast of very macho, in-shape men running around the jungle. When do you think Bob last watched something as offensive to his sensibilities as that?

The Predator code is so simple that it isn't something that could "gradually become clear". You can boil it down to a single fucking sentence, which both Predator and Prey do. "It didn't kill you because you were unarmed, no sport" and "It didn't think I was a threat". It's not a gradual string of clues that lead us here, it's literally a sudden realisation by both characters given the circumstances.

Admittedly, Prey does give us a little more flavour on this, we see the Predator studying various animals and food chains before picking off the stronger ones. But flavour is all it is; anybody familiar with Predators knows how they operate (unless you're Shane Black apparently) so it's not some great mystery to unravel. But to a dullard like Bob it probably took him lots of brain power to follow along.

Finally, the Predator in the original was not "Trump JR picking off defenceless animals with a 50 cal" (why does it always go back to Trump?!). These were trained soldiers, absolutely not defenceless. They could, and did, shoot back when possible. Only 3 characters get killed by ranged attacks. 3 more get killed up close with wristblades, all of which were still armed. Hardly the equivalent of shooting a rhino from half a mile away. Prey didn't invert this at all, the Predator still killed people at range, his technology vastly outclassed what people in the 1700's had access to, and he was durable enough to handle what they could throw at him. How is that any different from the original Predator?

Watch the god damn films you are talking about Bob, you moron. You literally have one job.

 

[King Dead]

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Regarding polio, it seems we need to treat America as a third-world country and revert to oral, live-attenuated Sabin-type vaccine. The vaccine-virus multiplies in the intestines of the inoculated, who will literally shit the vaccine out in the streets so the unvaccinated can get protected by eating food contaminated by shit particles.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from my recollection, outbreaks of previously managed diseases are frequently the result of immigrants from the third world, legal, refugee, or illegal, many of whom bring the disease with them or continue practices from their homeland that they're simply unaware can cause illness. I seem to remember numerous stories of tuberculosis outbreaks that just so happened to occur in areas with large amounts of resettled migrants. As it happens, one of the two countries where wild polio continues to be an issue is Afghanistan, due to their distrust of vaccination programs (the other being Pakistan for the same reason). And wouldn't you know it, we  just took in thousands of unvetted migrants from that country last year! I wouldn't be surprised if a chunk of them ended up in New York, and that they were the epicenter of these outbreaks.

Yes, vaccines have done wonders for disease management, and the "vaccines cause autism" shit has led to children getting diseases that had become rare in the modern day that they simply didn't have to. But you likely aren't going to be able to blame this one on the Bible-thumpers, Blobbo. Wonder how fast he'd change his tune if it came out that the poor little brown refugees were the ones responsible for these polio cases.