Roe V Wade chimpout thread - thread documenting chimpouts due to the overturning of Roe V Wade

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Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0 said:
True, but the Spartans were proven wrong just a couple centuries later by the birth of Julius Caesar. A premature baby who may or may not have exhibited the symptoms of his later epilepsy, he would have been a prime weak candidate for culling, but grew up to be one of the Great Chads of History. A weak baby doesn't necessarily mean a weak adult.
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The difference is, he was born into a wealthy family, which would have been less likely to expose "weak" babies, not least because they had the resources available to care for a sickly or weak child until it was strong enough. Your typical plebian or non-citizen wouldn't be in the same position. They couldn't afford sentimental attachment to newborns anyway, given how high infant mortality was in that era. Disposing of a baby that was marred or disfigured, or looked too sickly, was just jumping straight to the inevitable. It was no different than putting down a lame sheep.

It was fairly common, across europe and well into the 19th century, for the lower working class, and especially the rural working class, to eliminate newborns if they looked likely to have untreatable or incurable ailments, or were expected to be a net drain on the family (meaning downs kids and retards would live, but a potential genius with a gamy leg would likely be tossed in a bucket to drown). They also used herbal abortifacients quite liberally, usually after noticing a missed period.

The prevailing belief was that the child didn't "exist" until it "quickened" and a soul entered it, which was defined as anything from a visible belly and detectable movement of the child within the mother, to some nebulous moment after birth. It's only relatively recently that the idea of life at conception took hold in christian circles, but it has no real historical precedent.
 
teriyakiburns said:
The prevailing belief was that the child didn't "exist" until it "quickened" and a soul entered it, which was defined as anything from a visible belly and detectable movement of the child within the mother, to some nebulous moment after birth. It's only relatively recently that the idea of life at conception took hold in christian circles, but it has no real historical precedent.
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thing is though, if we want to take religion out of it and use science, libs aren't even willing to do that.
what's the science in aborting an 8 month baby for no particular reason?
with science, abortion would be banned at about 15 ish weeks in places like california or colorado.
 
Michael Janke said:
thing is though, if we want to take religion out of it and use science, libs aren't even willing to do that.
what's the science in aborting an 8 month baby for no particular reason?
with science, abortion would be banned at about 15 ish weeks in places like california or colorado.
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but science is literally amoral. Science just tell that this baby is close to be fully developed. It don't tell if it wrong or right to kill it
 
Just wandering said:
but science is literally amoral. Science just tell that this baby is close to be fully developed. It don't tell if it wrong or right to kill it
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i think the idea is using science to judge when something is alive.
the heart beat, brain waves, ability to feel pain. those are all ways to look at it.
like if you shoot a dead body, you wont get charged with murder. you kill an alive human, it's murder or some kind of homicide.
 
Michael Janke said:
i think the idea is using science to judge when something is alive.
the heart beat, brain waves, ability to feel pain. those are all ways to look at it.
like if you shoot a dead body, you wont get charged with murder. you kill an alive human, it's murder or some kind of homicide.
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Can't. That leads to abortion bans at conception.
 
Michael Janke said:
i think the idea is using science to judge when something is alive.
the heart beat, brain waves, ability to feel pain. those are all ways to look at it.
like if you shoot a dead body, you wont get charged with murder. you kill an alive human, it's murder or some kind of homicide.
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But animal are alive as well yet killing them is seen as not wrong. See we can't use science as basis morality becuase they're too distingt thing
 
It was kind of a generalized chimping to protest the 4th in Portland. Roe v Wade is definitely one of the things they were angry about.

Anyway, Antifa smashed up this minivan full of children in Portland on the way home from a fireworks show


 
Loony Tunes said:
The left hasn’t had their own insurrection yet. How disappointing
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Wasn't CHAZ/CHOP this originally till they realized the Feds would kick their ass if they continued to declare it, so they changed the name. If I am not mistaken, CHAZ was the left's pathetic month long insurrection during 2020.
 
Basic Blonde Boy said:
Wasn't CHAZ/CHOP this originally till they realized the Feds would kick their ass if they continued to declare it, so they changed the name. If I am not mistaken, CHAZ was the left's pathetic month long insurrection during 2020.
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Yes. There were pathetic chuds on Reddit saying that being robbed is a good thing because the thieves needed it, and iirc ended with two black teens getting shot. Couldn’t even make their own garden.
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Grand Duke Snowfall said:
Yes. There were pathetic chuds on Reddit saying that being robbed is a good thing because the thieves needed it, and iirc ended with two black teens getting shot. Couldn’t even make their own garden.
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I don't have the picture but there was even some homeless(?) dude that took over their garden too, so that shitty garden was destroyed further not too long into its existence
 
teriyakiburns said:
The prevailing belief was that the child didn't "exist" until it "quickened" and a soul entered it, which was defined as anything from a visible belly and detectable movement of the child within the mother, to some nebulous moment after birth. It's only relatively recently that the idea of life at conception took hold in christian circles, but it has no real historical precedent.
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Abortion was known to be prohibited by many groups in early Christianity (the Didache from the first century A.D. says "you shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is born"). There are others such as St. Augustine who disagreed, but saying it has "no real historical precedent" is incorrect.

Arguments involving "ensoulment" are an attempt to circumscribe that precedent by saying the child doesn't really exist yet. The problems with this sort of argument become apparent when governments try to extend this until the baby passes through the Magic Ensouling Vaginal Canal - you can't point to a single definite event where the worthless blob of matter becomes an infinitely valuable child; Catholic thought just extends that argument backwards to conception. There are attempts to do this using "fetal viability", but "fetal viability" isn't a self-contained concept since it depends on the technological ability of the surrounding society.
 
Once upon a time some people decided to build a tower that would reach heaven so they could look God in the eye and ask him if he used the last of the ketchup without replacing it. Something like that anyway. But God didn't want people all up in his business like that so he made it so they couldn't understand each other and therefore couldn't easily work toward a common goal.

In the recent past, work bosses would purposefully point out differences between different ethnic groups of workers, so they would notice different and not same, therefore not unionizing against corrupt bosses because who would want to work together with those other guys.

In even more recent past we were told that skin color was the end-all-and-be-all for the value of human life, long after we should know better than that. Friends and families turned on one another anyway.

Say "abortion" in mixed company and watch everyone bristle, looking to fight those with a differing opinion.

Why can't we be allowed to peacefully live and work together? Who benefits from the division among the citizenry?
 
Man, what a let down.
I was promised turbo dyke femenists in pussy hats committing acts of terrorism on the Supreme Court building. Fuck this gay earth.
 
Loony Tunes said:
The left hasn’t had their own insurrection yet. How disappointing
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They do it every year usually against the state they reside in. During the drumpf years they and BLM stormed the capital whenever something they didn’t like happened with one time shortly after the election lighting themselves on fire at the capital. They seethed the hardest during Brett Kavenjews confirmation hearing
 
Loony Tunes said:
I know. It got really boring really fast.
I shouldn’t have expected anything less tho. All these bitches do is whine anyway.
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The untold secret is this- Most people actually hated Roe and are glad it's gone. Some will pretend outrage but few will actually hate it and secretly love that it's dead.
 
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