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i hope george takei will be in it
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He's already been in Star Wars, bruh.
The funny thing is that the one writer isn't completely wrong: Lucas originally based the whole concept of the Empire off of Nazi Germany, right down to the dress uniforms for the Admirals and Generals. Which, no matter which side of the fence you're on, makes the "hero worship" of Darth Vader and the Empire as a whole by SW fanboys kind of disturbing, IMHO. TFA took it to an extreme "on the nose" level with General Hux's speech before they blew up Hosin Prime. If that didn't solidify the CS Lewis-esque allegory, well, I don't know what to tell you.
Not to mention that''s what makes the whole concept of the 501st (a cosplay group focused around Imperial and Sith characters that goes around and does charity work) kind of unsettling when you really think about it, too. I mean sure, they're doing some great work and have raised thousands upon thousands of dollars for charitable organizations and children's hospitals (largely because the founder's daughter died from brain cancer a few years back. If you've seen a pink R2 unit here and there, that was inspired by her), but it's sometimes hard to reconcile the fact they're dressed up as characters from a faction that's inspired by the Axis Powers from WWII. I think they've acknowledged this as such, but I can't be assed to find what the "official" statement is.
Eh, Star Trek is just as awful as Star Wars. Trek fans back in the day, especially when Usenet groups were the way people communicated, could be extremely insufferable and pretty obnoxiously hardcore. But they've really lost the bite and pull they used to have in recent years. Having a string of bad movies, TV series (Voyager and Enterprise, mostly), and extremely polarizing reboot movies helmed by an even more divisive director will give any fandom a slice or two of humble pie.
Although the fact some of the fanbase couldn't comprehend that the reboot movies were a separate continuity brought out some amazing exceptionalism in people.
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i hope he will be in it and have a 45 minute wrinkly old man gay buttsex scene like the ones on Game of Thrones because representation is important
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TLDR: It's problematic (TM) that people compared the bad guy groups in Star Wars to white supremacists.
Meanwhile, the Empire of the original trilogy was based on the Nazis. The imperial officers even wore surplus Wehrmacht uniforms. Also "Stormtroopers"
And The First Order of the sequel trilogy has imagery & uniforms based on the SS. Abrams even said that the FO were based off Nazi remnants who fled Europe.
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I really don't see what the problem with this is. I always knew that, but never deeply considered it.
There is a world of difference between "I really love this fictional character (inspired by the Axis Powers)" and "I idolize Nazis." People love to pretend to be villains. It's all about power fantasies. It's perfectly natural and human, and not unsettling or harmful at all. Darth Vader is cool. The other problem with that thinking is that you could draw that line for anyone who liked the portrayal of a villain in any fiction ever, and at that point you also get into debates like "what makes a nazi-based villain group worse than a single likable murderer? Is the murder of one million innocent people really any more disturbing the murder of one innocent person?" And so on. Fiction is fiction. It should never be equated in that way with reality.
In the same vein, a character being black or white in SW has no bearing on the real world and salty people should stop pretending it does. If the movie is good, great. If it sucks, well, too bad. I'm all for diversity in casting but it isn't a thing that needs to be hindered or forced in most cases.
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people take entertainment way, way, too fucking seriously.
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Yeah, if anyone is offended by a Star Wars movie, they should suck it up & move on.
But they won't, so they bring the ridicule upon themselves.
If you're going to complain about a film, at least complain about flaws in plot points or dialogue or production values, etc.
Oh, & @Debrotherized Luigi , you made some good points in your last post here.
Yeah, if anyone is offended by a Star Wars movie, they should suck it up & move on.
But they won't, so they bring the ridicule upon themselves.
If you're going to complain about a film, at least complain about flaws in plot points or dialogue or production values, etc.
Oh, & @Debrotherized Luigi , you made some good points in your last post here.
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Eh, you've got a point. I think on principle, I do find it a little unsettling given the history-inspired implications, and while there are crackpots who take it too seriously (I have stories of running into these loonies on Imperial servers when I played Old Republic often), more often than not the vast majority of fans do have a healthy understanding that fiction is separate from reality and are aware of the inspirations/origins of something.
Honestly? Even though these RTs are from Movieblob, a broken clock is right twice a day: I don't get why suddenly women in Star Wars is such a big deal. I mean, people have already mentioned there's been plenty of prominent women in SW, so I still don't understand why this is such a big to-do. I mean ffs, when people complained about Ahsoka initially, it was mostly because she was obnoxious and irritating, not just because she was a girl.
Come to think of it, I've seen very few actual/long-time Star Wars fans crowing about Rey and Jin (much less Finn, Poe, and the majority of the Rogue One cast) as it's largely been casuals/the Breitbart audience/poltards doing the endless belching of complaints into the void about them. If Star Wars fans really did get their manpants in a knot about female lead characters, then Ahsoka wouldn't have gotten as popular as she did, to say nothing of Mara Jade, ffs.
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Well, there was obviously an Imperial Japan influence with the robo-samurai outfit of Darth-Kun.
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Because only retarded people care about the gender of the characters.
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Star Trek was always more cerebral and thoughtful, but Star Wars was always more fun to watch.
That said, Star Wars gave us the best PC game of the 20th Century, TIE Fighter, so it wins
But I always prefered to watch Babylon 5 because the actors were so hammy and the story always seemed way more engaging
That said, Star Wars gave us the best PC game of the 20th Century, TIE Fighter, so it wins
But I always prefered to watch Babylon 5 because the actors were so hammy and the story always seemed way more engaging
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It goes both ways.
I don't give a shit what gender or race Rey was, my issue with her was that she was perfect and infallible, being trusted and having all those skills out of nowhere. But of course pointing that out makes you sexist in some circles because she's a woman.
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I would agree on that front. I thought TFA was very well acted and the writing was solid but it did get a little ridiculous how she accumulated all of these abilities, as though she was going through Luke's story arc in three hours rather than three films. Still, I'm willing to give the rest of this trilogy and Rogue One a chance.
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It's something that way too many people are taking way too seriously.
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I think this kinda affects every media out there, tbh. Maybe i'm just talking out of the nostalgia goggles, but back in the day of the 90s/2000s people honestly weren't this obsessed/upset about women and minorities in movies. I mean, we had films with them but nobody was complaining, or at least being this conscious about it. is this a result of the Internet's push for justice?
Yeah, granted I think this also has to do with many writers not wanting to give the heroine flaws, because then people will bitch about how "unfeminist" she is and what a poor role model she is to kids. Basically Hollywood only wants Mary Sues as leads. I always heard how there's a bigger pressure on writing female characters than it is on males, and i think it's true. You can write a male character as a slob with depression, and people would congratulate you or just not care. Instead, write a woman with those issues, then you're accused of sexist, racist, etc etc.
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Nah, it's a result of kikes going absolutely OTT with "minorities" (faggots and niggers) using White created studios in White countries.
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I don't remember if it was ever brought up in the original trilogy but in the expanded universe it's mentioned that the empire didn't give two fucks what color you were, they were an anti alien/pro human organization like Cerberus from Mass Effect. Hell the prototype for the clone/storm troopers was Jango Fett who wasn't white.
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Britain isn't a white country, you Paki.
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Yes it is, you shit talking moron.
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I don't recall any specific mentions of it in the original trilogy, but I don't think there were any non-humans seen on the Death Star or Star Destroyers in any of the films (with the exception of the bounty hunters in episode 5). The only mention I know of from the Expanded Universe occurred in Survivor's Quest when it was revealed that the 501st had a non-human member which came as quite a surprise to Mara Jade.
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