Rogue One salt - The Farce is strong with them

[smallmilk]

As someone that does some pretty hideous amateur writing myself, I do get that pressure myself. It's more...I don't know, self imposed, as if the screaming tumblr tards are at the back of my mind. But I can imagine that some of these writers at Disney must be terrified of being shitcanned by the Tumblrites outraged blogs calling them all sexist.

Why not throw in a bunch of female writers?

 

[Lorento]

Why not throw in a bunch of female writers?

The mental gymnastics are all over the place from these people. We could put a transgender, black broke bitch in as a writer and they'd still complain.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Comparing Star Wars: Rogue One to a dull Ghostbusters reboot, especially regarding box office money. :story;

I said based on what its expected to. Just like GB16.

Episode 7 made $2.06b box office worldwide on a $300m budget. Disney and people in the business are already saying they are expecting rogue one do about $1b box office on its $200m budget. That's the realistic to optimistic projections.

Could it be higher? Sure. It could be an unexpected hit and be much better than anticipated and have people going over and over to see it like 7. It still won't top $1.5b. However if fanboys reject it it might not even break the billion cap in box office revenue. Which is not to say it's a flop, but certainly not the powerhouse Disney want the franchise to be.

I mean, Suicide Squad is on its way to making $800m worldwide on a smaller budget. Rogue One could end up doing similar or possibly slightly less because of international market if word of mouth kills it.

 

[Too Many Crooks]

The mental gymnastics are all over the place from these people. We could put a transgender, black broke bitch in as a writer and they'd still complain.

Which begs the question:

"Who gives a shit about the identity politics of the main writer(s)?"

What matters is if the screenplay is good or not.

People aren't complaining (with good reason) that Rian Johnson will be writing & directing Episode VIII. IMO, he'll do well directing, if his episodes of Breaking Bad are anything to go by. Also, there's a lot of writing guidelines regarding this trilogy, so that's what he has to work with, as will the writer/director of IX.

I said based on what its expected to. Just like GB16.

Episode 7 made $2.06b box office worldwide on a $300m budget. Disney and people in the business are already saying they are expecting rogue one do about $1b box office on its $200m budget. That's the realistic to optimistic projections.

Could it be higher? Sure. It could be an unexpected hit and be much better than anticipated and have people going over and over to see it like 7. It still won't top $1.5b.

Rogue One's budget is $200 million. I'm certain it will make back the entire budget.

Will it make over $2 billion in the box office like The Force Awakens? I doubt that.

But as a conservative estimate, I guess that it will make about $600M worldwide.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Rogue One's budget is $200 million. I'm certain it will make back the entire budget.

Will it make over $2 billion in the box office like The Force Awakens? I doubt that.

But as a conservative estimate, I guess that it will make about $600M worldwide.

Ghostbusters 2016 did about twice its budget at the box office. You're predicting Rogue One will do about 2.5 to 3 times its budget. And you scoffed when I said that much like GB16, R1 will probably underperform what the studios expect it to do (twice what you predict)

 

[wholetthegodsout]

I believe Disney is fine with Rogue One doing worse than The Force Awakens since RO is a spin off movie and not part of the main saga. Many normies will stay home since this isn't a part of the main saga and they wont get to see Luke, Leia, Chewie and to a lesser extent Rety, Finn, and Poe. Disney execs have anticipated this I am sure.

 

[Too Many Crooks]

Ghostbusters 2016 did about twice its budget at the box office. You're predicting Rogue One will do about 2.5 to 3 times its budget. And you scoffed when I said that much like GB16, R1 will probably underperform what the studios expect it to do (twice what you predict)

I will reiterate that it's pretty exceptional to compare box office predictions between a Star Wars film & Ghostbusters.

The marketing for GB'16 was crap, & Sony was delusional with their high box office prediction.

Marketing for Rogue One has been the opposite.

People are very excited about SW.

The reaction toward GB'16 has ranged from "meh" to internet 'tard rage.

The rubes screaming "boycott!" have started their tantrum last week. And they've been laughed at.

Let me guess, you're doing this autistic boycott, too.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

I don't give a shit about Star Wars. I am only looking at things in a neutral way and all I see are signs that the movie will underperform for Disney the way Ghostbusters did for Sony

I don't know why you're so asschaffes about it. Or feel the need to write sentences as paragraphs

 

[buffaloWildWings]

I don't give a shit about Star Wars. I am only looking at things in a neutral way and all I see are signs that the movie will underperform for Disney the way Ghostbusters did for Sony

I don't know why you're so asschaffes about it. Or feel the need to write sentences as paragraphs

I think Disney wants this movie to appeal to the Asian market in general and to China in particular. So it might underperform in America, but it will make Star Wars a bigger brand in China.

 

[AnOminous]

I think Disney wants this movie to appeal to the Asian market in general and to China in particular. So it might underperform in America, but it will make Star Wars a bigger brand in China.

And unlike Ghostbusters, doesn't have dumb Chinese reasons to be banned in that shithole.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

I think Disney wants this movie to appeal to the Asian market in general and to China in particular. So it might underperform in America, but it will make Star Wars a bigger brand in China.

I don't see it doing particularly well in China tbh. They have their own domestic market going on, and Rogue One doesn't seem to have a single element that is going to cater to them/draw crowds into the theatres

I mean they already felt uncomfortable with the last Star Wars they were like "Urgh a nigger as a main character?" to the point they had they had to literally hide him/erase him on posters and promo material. I don't see this one faring any better, in fact I expect it to do significantly worse

 

[millais]

I don't see it doing particularly well in China tbh. They have their own domestic market going on, and Rogue One doesn't seem to have a single element that is going to cater to them/draw crowds into the theatres

I mean they already felt uncomfortable with the last Star Wars they were like "Urgh a nigger as a main character?" to the point they had they had to literally hide him/erase him on posters and promo material. I don't see this one faring any better, in fact I expect it to do significantly worse

They're putting in lots of big name Chinese actors in important roles to ensure it gets good returns in China. They learned their lesson from last time when they had strong marketing on the ground in China but no pandering in the film itself.

 

[friedshrimp]

Jesus

Hmm I'm thinking the hounds will soon be released after James for this...

 

[Tranhuviya]

And unlike Ghostbusters, doesn't have dumb Chinese reasons to be banned in that shithole.

For a country that venerates it's ancestors, ghosts and depictions of zombies are naturally a very touchy thing. I don't see it as stupid at all.

 

[buffaloWildWings]

For a country that venerates it's ancestors, ghosts and depictions of zombies are naturally a very touchy thing. I don't see it as stupid at all.

Too bad they don't venerate the living, the environment, law, order, the right to vote.
Keeping the most superficial elements of Confucianism while shitting on everything else isn't exactly consistent.

 

[TiggerNits]

I think Disney wants this movie to appeal to the Asian market in general and to China in particular. So it might underperform in America, but it will make Star Wars a bigger brand in China.

Yeah, Japan and China are white whales for Star Wars, they've been underperforming in Asian markets for awhile now

Too bad they don't venerate the living, the environment, law, order, the right to vote.
Keeping the most superficial elements of Confucianism while shitting on everything else isn't exactly consistent.

Chona practices Confucianism like Chris Chan practices Christianity

 

[millais]

For a country that venerates it's ancestors, ghosts and depictions of zombies are naturally a very touchy thing. I don't see it as stupid at all.

Nah, the Chinese make lots of ghost and horror movies that are superficially the same as Western scary movies. However, the government in China just enforces a policy of anti-superstition in all media, so they can't have explicitly supernatural shit going on in their movies. So instead their scary movies are set up in such a way that all the weird stuff going on could technically be explained away as the psychological delusions of a mentally unstable narrator/main character, but are for all practical purposes just regular ghosts and demonic spirits.

With Ghostbusters 2016, the whole premise was "ghosts are real and we will prove it with empirical science" so their localisation crew thought they couldn't rework it to get around the restriction.

 

[Brandobaris]

They're putting in lots of big name Chinese actors in important roles to ensure it gets good returns in China. They learned their lesson from last time when they had strong marketing on the ground in China but no pandering in the film itself.

People seem to misunderstand why people enjoy American films. It's because they are that. A lot of Asians fondest Memories of American Films are those that are what SJW's would term "Whitewashed". It's similar in a way why people enjoy Asian Films or Bollywood Films. You aren't there to see some other cultures interpretation of "White People". You are there to see the product of the market it is for. No one goes to see a foreign film and pleasantly surprised and validated a White American character is in it. In fact you might think their interpretation is woeful or even offensively bad. It might even pull you out of the film.

See the problem is that corporations think that trying to tick every box will get them more and more money, but it won't. "Inclusivity" Isn't something that translates to seats at the movies.

 

[CatParty]

People seem to misunderstand why people enjoy American films. It's because they are that. A lot of Asians fondest Memories of American Films are those that are what SJW's would term "Whitewashed". It's similar in a way why people enjoy Asian Films or Bollywood Films. You aren't there to see some other cultures interpretation of "White People". You are there to see the product of the market it is for. No one goes to see a foreign film and pleasantly surprised and validated a White American character is in it. In fact you might think their interpretation is woeful or even offensively bad. It might even pull you out of the film.

See the problem is that corporations think that trying to tick every box will get them more and more money, but it won't. "Inclusivity" Isn't something that translates to seats at the movies.

are you not going to see the movie because the lead character is a woman?

 

[Pikimon]

See the problem is that corporations think that trying to tick every box will get them more and more money, but it won't. "Inclusivity" Isn't something that translates to seats at the movies.

Can you give examples