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I, for one, welcome our new Bolshevik overlords.
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Thanks for keeping shit real Null.
 
Badungus Kabungus said:
Industrialization and urbanization started way before the commies during Tsarism. Or were the commies in charge in the 19th century too?
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Yeah, it started, but it was slow as a snail and mightly ineffective. Stalin fucked up with the collectivization, but in the end the migrations to cities helped fuel the economy and move it towards heavy industry. Consider the fact that in WWI they barely produced enough ammo for their soldiers and then went through a massive fucking civil war, stricken with famines. Of course the system itself is not effective in the long run, due to corruption, lack of foresight and tunnel vision on heavy industries, but if you need to get shit done, someone who is able and willing to let millions die for that aim usually gets shit done.
 

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CYKA BLYAT said:
Actually better that burgerland, and if the trend continues burgerland is gonna get way worse.
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Dime store Husky Ruskie over here making sure the secret police know he's a faithful patriot to ensure his overlords don't smear neurological agents on his underwear and poison him to death through his balls
If Russia got its act together it'd be infinitely better than the USA
 
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TheMorawOne said:
Yeah, it started, but it was slow as a snail and mightly ineffective. Stalin fucked up with the collectivization, but in the end the migrations to cities helped fuel the economy and move it towards heavy industry. Consider the fact that in WWI they barely produced enough ammo for their soldiers and then went through a massive fucking civil war, stricken with famines. Of course the system itself is not effective in the long run, due to corruption, lack of foresight and tunnel vision on heavy industries, but if you need to get shit done, someone who is able and willing to let millions die for that aim usually gets shit done.
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Did you go to a Ukrainian school or something? Everything you said is absolutely false.

Look up who Sergei Witte was, and look up how his reforms led to the rise of Russian heavy industry in the 1890s. Industrialization started earlier than that but really picked up after ending serfdom.
 
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Not unexpected in the least, and it is funny that there are a lot of people who have completely rose-tinted-glasses view of Russia. Speech is censored, movements are restricted (try buying SIM card/train/plane/bus tickets without an ID or work in Moscow/St. Petersburg without a permanent residency and see for yourself), say hi to Comrade Colonel and don't forget to smile for the cameras.
 
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Friendly_AI said:
try buying SIM card/train/plane/bus tickets without an ID
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SIM cards in russia can bought in bulk literally in the bazaars, bus tickets are practically optional, train tickets still can be bought without an ID.

ID's are a general requirement in any airport.
 
Friendly_AI said:
Not unexpected in the least, and it is funny that there are a lot of people who have completely rose-tinted-glasses view of Russia. Speech is censored, movements are restricted (try buying SIM card/train/plane/bus tickets without an ID or work in Moscow/St. Petersburg without a permanent residency and see for yourself), say hi to Comrade Colonel and don't forget to smile for the cameras.
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I used to wonder how the fuck the Western communists could have had such naive view of the Soviet Union, but then I came across "pro-Russian" nationalist types, and I wonder no longer. Some no-brain /pol/ack went on a pro-Putin rant, but was totally surprised to hear Russia has mosques and muslims and Jewish oligarchs. It's incredible how low-info the pro-Russia types are.
 
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Friendly_AI said:
Not unexpected in the least, and it is funny that there are a lot of people who have completely rose-tinted-glasses view of Russia. Speech is censored, movements are restricted (try buying SIM card/train/plane/bus tickets without an ID or work in Moscow/St. Petersburg without a permanent residency and see for yourself), say hi to Comrade Colonel and don't forget to smile for the cameras.
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Ну, это им знать не обязательно. Пусть приедут и попробуют в Москве поработать без регистрации, потом будут ментам плакаться.

Но насчет СИМок, это так практически везде уже, без документов не подключат. И в Европе, и в Канаде.
 
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SIM cards in russia can bought in bulk literally in the bazaars, bus tickets are practically optional, train tickets still can be bought without an ID.

ID's are a general requirement in any airport.
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1st part of the post: you can sure do this, but it's kind of legal gray zone, considering SIM card you buy on bazaar usually comes from a stolen phone, city-to-city bus tickets are not optional if you don't go with a taxi-like service, and РЖД requires you to have other forms of ID if you don't have a passport, like birth certificate, travel passport, military service record card and so on.

2nd part: and that's not a good thing, as well as internal passports and travel passports. But the world is well past this threshold, and only historians remember how passports were 'temporary'.
 
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