Diseased Rowling Derangement Syndrome - "TERF/Woke Author Bad!!1"

[Morethanabitfoolish]

How do you carefully word "98% of men are responsible for murders",

I suspect you mean "men are responsible for 98% of murders."

 

[Näkki]

I suspect you mean "men are responsible for 98% of murders."

Urgh, yes! Thank you, I apologise!

 

[King Metalia]

This might have been an arguable position before the concept that men should just be able to declare themselves women and then wander around in little girls' bathing spaces, identify themselves as children, and otherwise obviously just be open diddlers, using "transgender" as their reason for being able to do that.

Reminds me of that sick 50+ year old fuck who convinced a family to not only let him live with them, but also forced them to treat him like he was 5 years old.

During the aughts and tens? I would have said yes, because they were reduced to whining about first-world problems then.

It's the troon movement that's made it relevant again, seeing that troons pose a pretty big threat to women's rights and dignity.

It's funny in a way that feminists never considered they're greatest enemy would not be patriarchy. Instead it would be men poorly imitating woman stealing their very gender.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

It's funny in a way that feminists never considered they're greatest enemy would not be patriarchy. Instead it would be men poorly imitating woman stealing their very gender.

A lot of self-proclaimed feminists, lib feminists specifically, tried to discourage "toxic" masculinity, and promote the feminization of men, out of an assumption that it would make them less dangerous.

Ironically, doing so has only made men even more dangerous, violent, misogynistic, feral, I daresay. Emasculated men, emasculated either literally or metaphorically, aren't "safe" by any means.

Wow, who knew that such open misandry and hatred of masculinity would backfire so spectacularly? The real enemy is men who fail to be men, not masculinity.

 

[The Noticer]

What has she even said that's particularly "nasty?"

Not entertaining men in dresses as being true and honest women is literally genocide. I'm sure even truscum ideology is considered "nasty" by the AGP megahons. Anything other than total capitulation is viewed as an affront to them.

 

[Näkki]

A lot of feminists, lib feminists specifically, tried to discourage "toxic" masculinity, and promote the feminization of men, out of an assumption that it would make them less dangerous.

Ironically, doing so has only made men even more dangerous, violent, and misogynistic. Emasculated men, emasculated either literally or metaphorically, are not safe by any means.

I love a man that can be honest with his feelings, can communicate his emotions, etc. We all profit!

I just doubt your understanding of "toxic masculinity" and what women actually mean with it! It's a communication issue I believe. Just as I said in my previous post.

Men telling other men they've failed as men, isn't a feminist issue though, let's be real. Thats male socialisation. That's clearly men issues, that men have to work out as men and how they deal with each other emotionally. If you believe being a man, needs to do all that work to be a man— what the fuck do woman have to do with that except be emotional support animals to keep telling you "yes, you're super manly"? When we generally might not believe in the "manly" aspect anymore.

But trying to put the blame on women as to why they get raped, murdered, etc more often and in increasing numbers in every sensible country... how does that make sense? It's not the women doing it to themselves, is it? Maybe it does require an adult conversation.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Urgh, yes! Thank you, I apologise!

Easily happens, just made me do a double take when I saw it.

 

[SanctedElectromagnetism]

I love a man that can be honest with his feelings, can communicate his emotions, etc. We all profit!

I just doubt your understanding of "toxic masculinity" and what women actually mean with it! It's a communication issue I believe. Just as I said in my previous post.

Men telling other men they've failed as men, isn't a feminist issue though, let's be real. Thats male socialisation. That's clearly men issues, that men have to work out as men and how they deal with each other emotionally. If you believe being a man, needs to do all that work to be a man— what the fuck do woman have to do with that except be emotional support animals to keep telling you "yes, you're super manly"? When we generally might not believe in the "manly" aspect anymore.

But trying to put the blame on women as to why they get raped, murdered, etc more often and in increasing numbers in every sensible country... how does that make sense? It's not the women doing it to themselves, is it? Maybe it does require an adult conversation.

I think its a more simple explanation. Testosterone. Why are men sent to war? Why do men usually do hard-labor jobs? Why are men on average taller and stronger than women? Because testosterone and genetics, we are quite literally built different.

I like to use the example of troons and pooners. Whenever you see a troon (that isn't posting highly doctored images with makeup, lighting and the angle all made to make the troon appear femenine) you can most of the time clock that its a man. If not by the body and the walk, then by the face.

Yet with pooners its different. You probably won't clock them immediately, maybe after some time. But if one walked past you wouldn't be 100% sure that its a pooner as you would with a troon. It leads me to believe that the effects of testosterone are way more impactable than estrogen. Also bodybuilders who take TRT can balloon up to 2 times their original size.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

I love a man that can be honest with his feelings, can communicate his emotions, etc. We all profit!

I just doubt your understanding of "toxic masculinity" and what women actually mean with it! It's a communication issue I believe. Just as I said in my previous post.

Men telling other men they've failed as men, isn't a feminist issue though, let's be real. Thats male socialisation. That's clearly men issues, that men have to work out as men and how they deal with each other emotionally. If you believe being a man, needs to do all that work to be a man— what the fuck do woman have to do with that except be emotional support animals to keep telling you "yes, you're super manly"? When we generally might not believe in the "manly" aspect anymore.

But trying to put the blame on women as to why they get raped, murdered, etc more often and in increasing numbers in every sensible country... how does that make sense? It's not the women doing it to themselves, is it? Maybe it does require an adult conversation.

The only people rambling about what it means to be a man are life coach grifters, male feminists, and women.

I doubt you can even define toxic masculinity considering you both want men to be open about their emotions but also don't want to be an "emotional support animal".

 

[FinnSven]

I think its a more simple explanation. Testosterone. Why are men sent to war? Why do men usually do hard-labor jobs? Why are men on average taller and stronger than women? Because testosterone and genetics, we are quite literally built different.

I like to use the example of troons and pooners. Whenever you see a troon (that isn't posting highly doctored images with makeup, lighting and the angle all made to make the troon appear femenine) you can most of the time clock that its a man. If not by the body and the walk, then by the face.

Yet with pooners its different. You probably won't clock them immediately, maybe after some time. But if one walked past you wouldn't be 100% sure that its a pooner as you would with a troon. It leads me to believe that the effects of testosterone are way more impactable than estrogen. Also bodybuilders who take TRT can balloon up to 2 times their original size.

Ultimately, it’s easier to be taken as a man, even a short round hobbity one, if you have a beard.
The testosterone can easily give them even a scrabbly pube beard, so that covers it for a lot of them.

Short round hobbity men with beards exist and are generally more common than 6,6 square jawed Amazon women, so it’s not as easy to clock on that basis.

In the middle of a recent Warhammer podcast, one of the hosts says "just to point out, we hate JK Rowling" after Frostgrave magic schools were compared to Hogwarts houses. Starting at around 54:45ish, you can hear the guy trying to put an end to everyone laughing and having fun for a moment. Dunno how serious Louise's "Fuck you, Joanne" was, but Rob just can't let it go:
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Considering Warhammer shops are a great place for smelly anti social men to work and therefore get access to young boys to groom, they should really be more responsible with whom they side with.

 

[Näkki]

The only people rambling about what it means to be a man are life coach grifters, male feminists, and women.

I doubt you can even define toxic masculinity considering you both want men to be open about their emotions but also don't want to be an "emotional support animal".

Me: wanting men to be more open and to talk about their feelings and emotions because it's important, but it might be important to get a therapist instead of letting it out on your partner— since women aren't your emotional support animals
You: they shouldn't, you're horrible for suggesting that. You don't even know what toxic masculinity means! Even if I understand that you're not adressing me

Do you ever get tired? Because I certainly fucking am. No matter how I phrase it, it doesn't mean shit, clearly. You'll always find something to be fucking upset about, just as I very clearly stated a few posts ago.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

Me: wanting men to be more open and to talk about their feelings and emotions because it's important, but it might be important to get a therapist instead of letting it out on your partner— since women aren't your emotional support animals
You: they shouldn't, you're horrible for suggesting that. You don't even know what toxic masculinity means! Even if I understand that you're not adressing me

Do you ever get tired? Because I certainly fucking am. No matter how I phrase it, it doesn't mean shit, clearly. You'll always find something to be fucking upset about, just as I very clearly stated a few posts ago.

This is the first time I've responded to you.

This is the first time I've responded to any of the feminism rambling in this thread.

And unlike you I'm not wildly miscontrueing what people said and responding to what I made up. So honestly I have no clue what I'm supposed to be tired from.

 

[Näkki]

This is the first time I've responded to you.

This is the first time I've responded to any of the feminism rambling in this thread.

And unlike you I'm not wildly miscontrueing what people said and responding to what I made up. So honestly I have no clue what I'm supposed to be

You quoted me in the first place. What do you want, except attention? Then get upset because it isn't the right one?

 

[TerminalTryHard]

You quoted me in the first place. What do you want, except attention? Then get upset because it isn't the right one?

Ok let me explain this slowly. I responded to one post on a discussion forum. As one would normally do.

Do you ever get tired? Because I certainly fucking am. No matter how I phrase it, it doesn't mean shit, clearly. You'll always find something to be fucking upset about, just as I very clearly stated a few posts ago.

This was your response. Asking if I ever get tired and how i always find something to be upset at. As if we had been having a long running conversation or past interactions. We have not.

I don't know if you mistook me for another user or if this a language barrier thing.

 

[Ukraine is Big Gay]

Do you ever get tired? Because I certainly fucking am. No matter how I phrase it, it doesn't mean shit, clearly. You'll always find something to be fucking upset about, just as I very clearly stated a few posts ago.

You're way too personally invested in a post on the retard doxxing forum.

 

[Näkki]

Ok let me explain this slowly. I responded to one post on a discussion forum. As one would normally do.




This was your response. Asking if I ever get tired and how i always find something to be upset at. As if we had been having a long running conversation or past interactions. We have not.

I don't know if you mistook me for another user or if this a language barrier thing.

Because I genuinely believe we're having a retarded moment where we're both just too fucking stupid and thick headed! I appreciate your believes, I dont feel like challenging any and I do apologise for not being able to properly express any of mine apparently. I'm not your enemy I hope.

 

[Jacques1194]

Apologize if this was posted. TRAs accuse J.K of racism because they completely missed the point she was trying to make with stereotypes.

 

[grenouille crétine]

I think a feminism sidebar is on-topic for this thread, so further spergery ahoy.

How do you carefully word "98% of murders are committed by men (ETA: rephrased)", how do you kindly say "since more than a decade there's been more femicides in my country than actual murders"? All of which by men? As if all discussion was over because you don't specify "not all men". As to not hurt some random guys fucking feelings. (Instead of him adressing WHY he feels so attacked. WHY do you feel attacked or enraged at what I say?)

And they'll put it on you and oh it's feminisms fault, oh if only you were more kind, oh if only you worded your complaints "correctly"— as if they're not just looking for excuses because they ran out of arguments. As if there was a way to address that correctly.

I've seen this reasoning a few times in r/detrans, with males claiming that they had über-feminist manhater moms who always made them feel bad for being male, and hence troonery.

Spoiler: “Feminism made me trans”

It's not that I don't think such things ever occur or that libshit moms aren't fucking up their kids with ideology, but I have my doubts about "le ebil feminisms made manhood2scawy” being the whole story (for most). Males are the ones committing the vast majority of violent crime and that is that, regardless of race, religion, nationality etc etc., so if that bothers you as a male, cry me a fucking river. Facts hurt your feelings? For the detroons, instead of even trying to do something constructive about the reality of male violence, you trooned/“detrooned”, often still fetishize being a “sissy femboy” on estrogen though lol, and that's somehow women's fault for not being nicer about the nature of reality? Girls and women poon for dumb reasons too, but sexual assault as a motivator is neither uncommon nor trivial. The same dudes who whine about this are the ones who go "erm, ackshully that is v hurtful, I can't change my sexuality T_T" when a female poster says something negative about AGP. Saying you’re detrans but still doing gross fetish shit like indulging AGP is a misnomer.

It's funny in a way that feminists never considered they're greatest enemy would not be patriarchy. Instead it would be men poorly imitating woman stealing their very gender.

>would not be patriarchy
>would be men

A lot of self-proclaimed feminists, lib feminists specifically, tried to discourage "toxic" masculinity, and promote the feminization of men, out of an assumption that it would make them less dangerous.

Wow, who knew that such open misandry and hatred of masculinity would backfire so spectacularly?

What does "feminization of men" wrt toxic masculinity (ie when men behave as violent rapeapes) even mean? Wanting them to not rape or beat or do sexually degrading things to the female half of the population? I will defend neither libfems nor even radfems as a whole, because people call themselves all sorts of things without actually following their own supposed belief system—actions are what matter. That said, the things that pass for "misandry" in a world where Islam exists and abortion is universally tarred as "baby-killing", but men the world over rape and assault children with impunity, are so trivial in comparison as to be absurd.

Recognizing the unpleasant reality of how much male violence and abuse really exists in this world is not an easy task. JK understands the inherent connection between male violence and troonery. The latter is just an advanced form of the former.

 

[FrancineCansMcGee]

Apologize if this was posted. TRAs accuse J.K of racism because they completely missed the point she was trying to make with stereotypes.
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Self awareness missed by a millimeter.

>would not be patriarchy
>would be men

Troons represent men who are free of patriarchal rules like adult men shouldn’t dress up like a little girl and suck their thumb in court even if that communicates how they are feeling.

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

Perhaps troons experience far more visceral hatred for TERFs than for right wingers because TERFs make a reasonably good case for being anti-troon from a left-wing point of view.

I think they hate TERFs because TERFs are women who tell them no. That's their kryptonite.