Russell Greer vs. Viatron Corporation, A-26-937678-C

Prokhor Zakharov said:
My entire point was that one wouldn't even need to make an account, so that way if someone tried to sue Null over something that can be seen without an account they would still be bound by the TOS arbitration provisions.
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If there's a financial transaction, it's easier to pin it to a specific person than with an IP. That way, they can't play games about "well it wasn't me who accessed the site and agreed to the TOS."
 
Thomas Talus said:
If there's a financial transaction, it's easier to pin it to a specific person than with an IP. That way, they can't play games about "well it wasn't me who accessed the site and agreed to the TOS."
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Which doesn't help if they visit and want to sue over a copyright violation of an image of them that was posted to the site and never make an account.
 
DragoonSierra said:
Would need to make everyone resign the TOS
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Not difficult. You have it pop-up that you agree to the terms of service to visit the site, otherwise you have to hit "No" and it drops you at Google.com. No different than any of those sites that ask if you are at least 18, you click Yes, the site loads, if you click No, it doesn't.
 
Thomas Talus said:
Charge $10 to make an account.
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Null after instating this policy:

Screenshot 2026-04-29 at 20-11-22 YARN No seriously where's my ten dollars Deuce Bigalow Male ...png
 
All this "terms of service talk" reminds me of a Stebbins poster.


lol cow supreme said:
Cus users of the site, including casual readers not logged in, are bound by the Terms of Service of this site. Stebbins, as a user of the site, gives KF "You are granting us with a non-exclusive, permanent, irrevocable, unlimited license to use, publish, or re-publish your Content in connection with the Service. You retain copyright over the Content."

It does not in the ToS state that its limited to content you post to KF, but your content. Period. By reading his thread here, KF has a license to His Content. The wereturkey legal fucked by his own tactic. Enticing him to read content here makes him a user.

Anyone reading this post or so much as loading the page of this post electronically or via trained turkey hereby renders unto lol cow supreme, and the entire capital I Internet all copyrights owned or claimed as well as two fifths (or 40 percent) of all hot dog dinners.
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Now that you've read that. I'll be awaiting receipt of your hotdogs.
 
Thoughtcrime84 said:
Could Kiwi Farms also put something in its terms and services? If you make an account, Lolcow LLC has the right to move it to arbitration of their choosing, where you need to pay all the admin cost, plus if you lose, you get automatic fee shifting.

Some cows make accounts just to argue with people, and the price they would pay is that they can't argue in front of a judge.
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There would have to be some limitations, such as having a thread for six months prior to the lolsuit or making your account. I'm sure there's a lot of other legal stuff that would need to be sorted, but I'm not a lawyer.
 
AnOminous said:
They could literally send a hitman to your house to shoot you in the face and you couldn't do dick.
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But can't you void a contract even if you signed off on it whenever an issue arises due to a lack of a meeting of minds or whatever the term is? I remember that being mentioned when Disney tried and failed to not hold themselves accountable for the death of some woman in their restaurant.
 
Exegesis said:
But can't you void a contract even if you signed off on it whenever an issue arises due to a lack of a meeting of minds or whatever the term is? I remember that being mentioned when Disney tried and failed to not hold themselves accountable for the death of some woman in their restaurant.
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No. You signing the contract is you literally saying, "This is the exact meeting of the minds we came to." Unless you are a minor, you need to perform.

The Disney thing you are referring to is totally different.
 
Mk1 Fire Control Computer said:
No. You signing the contract is you literally saying, "This is the exact meeting of the minds we came to." Unless you are a minor, you need to perform.
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I might've been thinking of some proposal made to deal with companies hiding shady shit within the 6 gorillion paragraph TOS agreements; the main problem with all of them is that it becomes really easy to abuse that and take advantage of people by making them hold up their end of the contract and then you bullshit your way out of it before you can hold up your end.
 
Exegesis said:
I might've been thinking of some proposal made to deal with companies hiding shady shit within the 6 gorillion paragraph TOS agreements; the main problem with all of them is that it becomes really easy to abuse that and take advantage of people by making them hold up their end of the contract and then you bullshit your way out of it before you can hold up your end.
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The case was Disney claiming a widower could not sue them for his wife’s death due to a allergic reaction at a Disney Springs restaurant, because he agreed to mandatory arbitration when he signed up to a Disney+ VOD subscription. This didn't even get tested in court because once the public discovered the attempted legal defence, it was such a massive PR shitshow they immediately settled with the plaintiff.
 
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