RU Russia is being set aflame by hundreds of arson attacks - The Kremlin blames a campaign of subversion and psychological warfare

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An elderly man places a newspaper on an atm terminal, douses it in spirit, and sets it alight while filming it all on his smartphone. The pensioner then repeats the trick twice more on December 21st—once unsuccessfully—before police nab him in Kolpino, near St Petersburg. Within days, Alexander Nikiforov is in court and charged with terrorism. But his case, echoing dozens of similar events targeting banks, post offices and police cars the same week, has raised more questions than it has answered. Mr Nikiforov claims he was acting not from conviction, but under the instructions of unidentified telephone scammers.

It is not the first time Russia has experienced arson attacks since beginning its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. In the first year of the war, military recruitment offices and police departments were frequent targets. According to a forthcoming investigation by Mediazona, an independent Russian media outfit, there have been 280 arson attacks to date. But if the early wave of attacks were easily identifiable as anti-war or anti-mobilisation protests, that is no longer the case. The latest attacks, which peaked in the second half of December, appear more driven by manipulation and coercion. The perpetrators, often pensioners like Mr Nikiforov, claim to have been tricked into transferring large sums of cash, before somehow being persuaded they must burn atms to recover the money.

Russia is blaming Ukraine for the unusual campaign, citing both motive and means. On the latter point, Ukraine is somewhat of a world-leader in the phone scamming industry, with hundreds of murky call-centres operating from cities such as Kyiv and Dnipro. Since Russia began its original war on Ukraine in 2014, and Ukrainian law-enforcement agencies broke off all co-operation with Russia, Russian citizens have been prime targets of the criminal activity. Ukraine’s bilingualism and Russia’s high level of corruption, leading to masses of data being put up for sale on the dark net, have made it a lucrative business.

A Ukrainian law-enforcement source says such call-centres may have played a role in the latest wave of attacks. “They have skilled psychologists who can manipulate the vulnerable,” he says. “They are mainly motivated by cash, but they may occasionally serve the fatherland too.” Some sources within the intelligence agencies, however, claim more direct ownership of the operation. “Ukraine’s special services are at work,” one of them says. “It’s a routine operation.” The same source downplayed the suggestion that Russia’s arsonists did not know what they were doing. “When people are caught, they say anything, they drank something, were fed something, or were injected with something. But you can get a grandmother to throw a Molotov cocktail into a military office or wherever you want—if your price is right.”

The traffic is not just one-way. In the past year Russian intelligence has almost certainly used similar methods to conduct out an arms-length arson campaign against Ukrainian military vehicles. According to Ukraine’s police service, 341 vehicles were set alight in 2024 alone. The Ukrainian law-enforcement source says the perpetrators were mostly gullible, rather than ideologically driven. More often than not, they were motivated by promises of up to $1,000, cash that was rarely delivered. A total of 184 were charged.

Russian authorities have wasted little time in responding to the apparent Ukrainian operation. Little over a week after it in effect blocked YouTube, thus creating a firewall around any source that is not Russian propaganda, the Kremlin announced it would also ban internet telephony. But this possible recognition that some of Russia’s pensioner arsonists might have fallen victim to sophisticated manipulation is unlikely to help them in court. Only 0.26% of those charged are ever acquitted. Mr Nikiforov and the hundreds like him to be charged with terror crimes thus have little chance of avoiding a serious custodial sentence. “It’s impossible to defend people in Russia,” says Dmitry Zakhvatov, a lawyer, “whether they are scammed or not.” ■
 
You lie as easily as you breath.
Happily both our posts are right there above in this thread so anybody can check for themselves. And that's all the defence I need. Hell, if you could back up your accusations all you'd have to do would be quote me saying what you said I had, easiest thing in the world. But you can't, so there you go.
 
When I see journals use the term "full-scale invasion" about this war, it's a marker to me that the author is partisan. Not the 'invasion' part, Russia has invaded. The 'full scale' part. Russia hasn't even fully mobilised or moved to a wartime economy. (Ukraine is on its third wave of mobilisation and conscription and has no economy). Russia is occupying the provinces that voted to break away from Ukraine. Maybe Russia will advance to the Dniepr. Hell maybe they'll even advance to Odessa (could happen - it's a Russian city and with Kiev cutting off energy to Transnistria they have more motive to keep going West). But Russia is not currently engaged in "full scale invasion". Hell, they could flatten half of Kiev if they wanted but they don't. They're still grinding away in the East. It's a war, it's nasty. It's not Russia going all out, not even close.
Russia has mobilized as much as they can. This is like the usual vatnigger cope of "Russia hasn't sent their best stuff they are holding back". Which makes no sense. Vatniggers always use the old "Russia hasn't even begun to fight" cope. Truth is Russia sent their best and did their best. But it just isn't good enough. Russia isn't the 10 foot tall giants of modern combat the media told you they were. Their military has been gutted by corruption incompetence and lack of funds. It was really never that good anyway. They only defeated the Germans because they had help from Western allies. They still deny this.
What do you expect?
Protests? Prisons hold about 10-20 000 people who tried to protest already. Not the big cases you hear, but smaller ones, smaller people, people who "matter less" for the "opposition". They don't dive a shit about your kids, about illnesses, about anything.
Gaze upon a man who is being left to rot inside. What's the crime you might ask? A post on Facebook where he asked people to support the other side. The case is still ongoing and he will most likely get 7 to 10 years, like everyone:

Set something on fire? The courts are handing out 7-10 years sentences to 16-18 yo teenagers who tried to set something small on fire and brand them as terrorists. There are cameras and face recognition everywhere.
Go to the forests and start playing the partisan game? Are you ready to risk you life for your convictions? Are you ready to throw away your life for that? Are you willing to go against thermal and nigh vision equipped kill-teams they will send against you?
They go after parents, after relatives, after friends. The torture is widespread.
And if they can't get you? If for some reason they can't do what they will do under normal circumstances? They will send chechens to kill you "unoficially", like they did with Nemtsov and Politkovskaya.
I don't expect anything. Russia can keep whining about Ukraine attacking them. I find it humorous.
>article about old people being social engineered to set fires in phone booths
>all the comments are about how Putin is le bad or how Ukraine will lose the war
That's because a lot of the fires were or are linked to the war. Suspected sabotage and so on.
 
Russia has mobilized as much as they can. This is like the usual vatnigger cope of "Russia hasn't sent their best stuff they are holding back". Which makes no sense. Vatniggers always use the old "Russia hasn't even begun to fight" cope.
People have a weird cartoonish idea of what getting serious about war looks like. If anyone in a country seems to be going about their normal life then it's viewed as though the country hasn't really gone all the way.

Probably doesn't help that it's easier to point to people still being able to visit a mall than to point out when a country is having trouble getting ball bearings. The prior could let a casual observer think life is going on just fine for people, while the latter isn't as obvious but can still be affecting things like tank production or railway networks.
 
I'm pretty sure it's just alkies reaching terminal alcoholism where no amount of alcohol will quench your irritability. Basically Ethan Ralph. Or maybe it's just because having 10 months out of the year be perpetually frozen hand weather will make anyone want to burn shit down.
 
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we know americans are faggot pussies who don't fight, you don't need to remind us
Russians have always been big mad about America's air power.

Or as Eisenhower once said: " Never said a battalion to take a hill if you can send a regiment." Overwhelming firepower saves lives.
Happily both our posts are right there above in this thread so anybody can check for themselves. And that's all the defence I need. Hell, if you could back up your accusations all you'd have to do would be quote me saying what you said I had, easiest thing in the world. But you can't, so there you go.
Okay, but at what point are you claiming Russia truly is going all-in, when they start openly conscripting instead of just paying their Turkics and other ethnic minorities more money than they will otherwise ever make in their lives to sign up and die? Its been estimated that there's 50k dead on the Russian side. Afghanistan was less than 10k for them. Their Cold War storage facilities are emptying to the point they're using shit from the 1960's in the frontlines, which isn't exactly something you do when you're winning.
 
I will never understand how dumb you have to be to fall for that. This isn't even cow brains, it's insects.
And these people have kids, they breed.
How did they get through life?
These people have been tyrannized their whole lives, threatened with terrible punishments for thinking or acting independently, forced to affirm propaganda statements they know are false, etc. It does something to their brains and makes them compliant.

When I see journals use the term "full-scale invasion" about this war, it's a marker to me that the author is partisan. Not the 'invasion' part, Russia has invaded. The 'full scale' part. Russia hasn't even fully mobilised or moved to a wartime economy. (Ukraine is on its third wave of mobilisation and conscription and has no economy). Russia is occupying the provinces that voted to break away from Ukraine. Maybe Russia will advance to the Dniepr. Hell maybe they'll even advance to Odessa (could happen - it's a Russian city and with Kiev cutting off energy to Transnistria they have more motive to keep going West). But Russia is not currently engaged in "full scale invasion". Hell, they could flatten half of Kiev if they wanted but they don't. They're still grinding away in the East. It's a war, it's nasty. It's not Russia going all out, not even close.
Full-scale refers to the the Russian objective, not how much they committed to it. Before,they were content to take Ukraine piecemeal through deniable-but-not-really covert action; in 2022 they attempted overtly to take the whole thing.
 
Okay, but at what point are you claiming Russia truly is going all-in, when they start openly conscripting instead of just paying their Turkics and other ethnic minorities more money than they will otherwise ever make in their lives to sign up and die?
I mean, that would be a lot closer to going all in. Ukraine has had three rounds of mobilisation, forcibly abducting large numbers of people right off the street to send to the front, to the extent they're making heavy use of barrier troops (loyalists behind the front line to shoot people retreating) and are currently under pressure to lower the conscription age to 18. A consideration taken seriously enough to cause large numbers of parents to be fleeing over the border with their teenage kids. As you say, Russia is still at the stage of using only volunteers (and some prisoners taking a deal for reduced sentences / pardons) and whom it can afford to pay quite highly for the dangerous work.

I wasn't trying to make some grand point. I'm just tired of the hyperbole and attempts by NAFO types and the media in general to suggest Russia is struggling. The Ukranian soldiers have often fought like tigers (their senior leadership are mostly idiots, though) but Russia is still clearly fighting with one hand here. It's not just a matter of how many troops are committed, either. It's a matter of tactics. Russia has been content to play this very conservatively. They could missile strike a lot more of Kiev or Lvov if they chose to. Russia is trying to use their military power to put on political pressure as much as territory. Which makes sense because their strategic goal isn't really land or natural resources. They have both in abundance, they're Russia. It's security. And for that they're going to need political buy-in which gets harder when you flatten cities far from the actual battle front for the sake of it.

I can't give you a precise answer on at what point I'd say Russia is going "all in" because I haven't decided for myself what that would be. But I think I can argue credibly that Russia is far from it. Ukraine on the other hand, is a lot lot closer to that point. The media should stop trying to portray the situation as other than it is.

Its been estimated that there's 50k dead on the Russian side. Afghanistan was less than 10k for them. Their Cold War storage facilities are emptying to the point they're using shit from the 1960's in the frontlines, which isn't exactly something you do when you're winning.
I most certainly am not downplaying the loss of 50K lives. I don't know how accurate that figure is (or the estimated Ukie losses). Both sides keep it tightly under wraps. But 50K is a lot. But still very far from all out war.

Only thing I'd observe in the above is that you have it the wrong way around with the munitions. Shells and missiles have expiry dates. You don't use up all your new stuff until you've run out and are reduced to using your oldest. You use some of the new stuff both because it is effective and because you want to battlefield test it. But where all else is equal you want to use up your ageing stocks because they just become wasted money. Same way the Western MIC has been using Ukraine as a huge opportunity to send ageing munitions and equipment to Ukraine so that they can soak the Biden administration for more money to buy new stuff.
 
Not to interrupt the Nafo circlejerk, but maybe this is the secret weapon that will secure Indian domination over the world.

Scamming boomers and other geriatrics. Superpower 2020 wasn't an early goal, but a desperate hurry. India needs to launch its Kiyiyiyv style scam phone attack before boomers die off.
 
Russia has literally gutted its military in Ukraine, and has lost literally hundreds of thousands of troops, they've suffered more losses in men and material than the fucking Americans did in ether World War.
>Muh Rusha hasn't mobilized!!11
What a dishonest, outright lie to say.
im not mobilized
nor anyone i know is
 
Russians have always been big mad about America's air power.

Or as Eisenhower once said: " Never said a battalion to take a hill if you can send a regiment." Overwhelming firepower saves lives.

Okay, but at what point are you claiming Russia truly is going all-in, when they start openly conscripting instead of just paying their Turkics and other ethnic minorities more money than they will otherwise ever make in their lives to sign up and die? Its been estimated that there's 50k dead on the Russian side. Afghanistan was less than 10k for them. Their Cold War storage facilities are emptying to the point they're using shit from the 1960's in the frontlines, which isn't exactly something you do when you're winning.
If the Russian weren't such drunken incompetent corrupt clowns, they could be good. Probably not as good as the US. But they could be better. Of course, that starts with sending your soldiers to fight in a war that's worth fighting and even dying over. Which the war in Ukraine is not.
 
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