RU Russian heavy Sarmat missile explodes during test - Russia has not had a successful ICBM test since April 2022, and has now had six failed tests in the past three months alone

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A Russian RS-28 “Sarmat” intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) reportedly exploded during a test at the Plesetsk Cosmodrome in the Arkhangelsk region, according to the OSINT project MeNMyRC.

The group released satellite images showing a large crater at the test site, providing visual evidence of the failed launch.

MeNMyRC based its conclusions on satellite imagery and flight data from U.S. reconnaissance aircraft.

“The enormous crater indicates that the missile detonated in the silo, destroying the test range,” an expert stated.

Additional satellite data from NOAA-20 and SUOMI NPP also confirmed a fire in the area. NOAA-20 and the SUOMI NPP satellites have detected two instances of the fire as they crossed the area in their orbits. However, there’s no way to determine from this data alone if the fire is incidental to the launch or caused by a failed launch near the pad.

The RS-28 “Sarmat,” known as the “Satan II” in the West, is designed to carry multiple nuclear warheads over long distances. The missile reportedly exploded in its launch silo, damaging the site and infrastructure. While the missile was not equipped with a warhead due to the test nature of the launch, the crater size suggests a catastrophic failure.

The only successful launch of new Russian missile occurred on April 20, 2022.

According to a report from CNBC, the longest test flight of the “Sarmat” lasted just over two minutes, covering a distance of 35 kilometers before it lost control and crashed.

In 2022, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the missile to be placed on combat duty, a directive that was reportedly fulfilled in September 2023. The Sarmat is a key element of Russia’s strategic nuclear program, and the destruction of the test site could have broader implications for its development.

It remains unclear whether the recent incident was a failed launch attempt or part of a fueling exercise. A more detailed analysis of the readiness of ground services, particularly at the Kura test range, could provide additional insights. However, access to higher-resolution satellite imagery of these areas is currently unavailable.
 
And yet neither the US nor any of the other NATO-aligned nations will attack Russia despite how troublesome Putin is, so maybe they know something we don't..? After all, there's plenty of oil and other natural resources in Russia, why wouldn't they just go in and steamroll such a clearly incompetent military and take their shit?
To get to where all the good stuff is you have to drive through hundreds of miles of utterly worthless land, extending your supply lines and losing men and machines to attrition, and all the Russians have to do is delay you until winter hits and things go from tolerable to disaster. At no point is the Russian military itself going to be a major threat. What killed Napoleon wasn't Borodino but the fact Moscow had been burned to the ground and he had no means to quarter, rest, and resupply his troops due to the sheer emptiness of the place.

That said, if you go to war with Russia for a specific, limited objective instead of just "lol take all of the land we can", Russia can't do shit, even on its own soil. The Crimean War was absolutely brutal for Russia, and that was on its own territory and the UK and France stretching hard to keep their forces there in good condition given the logistical issues, as well as massive unpopularity at home given the economic costs and war taxes.
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Reminds me of what zeihan said about russia's technical education system collapsing in the mid 80's meaning that most of the people they have to build and maintain their state-of-the-art equipment is in their sixties now with no replacements, which explains how they could do a flying Flanker prototype in 7 years back then but can't even make the Felon's canopy without bubbles in the glass now and that thing has been in development for what, 25 years?.

Then again zeihan tends to say some dumb stuff sometimes so IDK.
 
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Reminds me of what zeihan said about russia's technical education system collapsing in the mid 80's meaning that most of the people they have to build and maintain their state-of-the-art equipment is in their sixties now no replacements, which explains while they could do a flying Flanker prototype in 7 years back then but can't even make the Felon's canopy without bubbles in the glass now and that thing has been in development for what, 25 years?.

Then again zeihan tends to say some dumb stuff sometimes so IDK.
Zeihan in general is just coping when talking about Russia but he isn't wrong about the total brain drain that country is suffering.
I'm not sure how much of it is the crumbling educational system and how much is the fact that all the smart Russkies get the fuck out of the country to live in the west, but between the two they have a real situation on their hands.
 
Because we would have to either slaughter every Russian, or actually deal with Russians. Neither is palatable.

Also, getting hit with even one nuke is too high a price for Russia.

To get to where all the good stuff is you have to drive through hundreds of miles of utterly worthless land, extending your supply lines and losing men and machines to attrition, and all the Russians have to do is delay you until winter hits and things go from tolerable to disaster. At no point is the Russian military itself going to be a major threat. What killed Napoleon wasn't Borodino but the fact Moscow had been burned to the ground and he had no means to quarter, rest, and resupply his troops due to the sheer emptiness of the place.

That said, if you go to war with Russia for a specific, limited objective instead of just "lol take all of the land we can", Russia can't do shit, even on its own soil. The Crimean War was absolutely brutal for Russia, and that was on its own territory and the UK and France stretching hard to keep their forces there in good condition given the logistical issues, as well as massive unpopularity at home given the economic costs and war taxes.
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Or maybe the US realizes that our own military spent 20 years fighting against goat herders with rusted out AK-47's in caves, and still lost, with the same Taliban taking back over the government the day after we tucked tail and ran. If we couldn't even beat Afghanistan how the fuck would we beat Russia?

So our military as expensive as it is, actually isn't built to win wars. In fact, I can't even count how many wars the US has been in in the last 50-60 years, but I don't think we've actually won any of them have we (unless we count Grenada as a win...?) So maybe we don't actually go to war to win a military objective but rather to serve the needs of the military industrial complex. If so, that explains a lot actually...
 
I can't even count how many wars the US has been in in the last 50-60 years
You don't know how to count? Explains a lot.
I don't think we've actually won any of them have we
What is 'winning' to you exactly? Destroying the opposing nation's standing army and achieving your military objective like we did to Iraq twice counts twice, or at least it will if you're being honest with yourself.
 
You don't know how to count? Explains a lot.

Oh it's not me princess, it's them. The US hasn't actually declared war in over 80 years, and yet somehow we're always at war.

What is 'winning' to you exactly?

Bush said "Mission Accomplished" in 2003, so I guess staying in Iraq for another 20 years, costing billions in US taxpayer money and costing countless lives after we already "won" is what winning looks like?
 
Oh it's not me princess, it's them. The US hasn't actually declared war in over 80 years, and yet somehow we're always at war.
Come on babe, get with the times. Declaring wars is so last century. Thats why its called the SMO after all.
Bush said "Mission Accomplished" in 2003, so I guess staying in Iraq for another 20 years, costing billions in US taxpayer money and costing countless lives after we already "won" is what winning looks like?
Yes. Because the war is not the occupation. I can approve of the prosecution of the war without approving of a decades long occupation sending good blood and money after bad.

So to recap
Iraq invades Kuwait. We tell them no dont do that and then annihilate their armed forces and forcibly remove them from the country: Undeniable US military W
The United states invades Iraq to topple the seat warmer in charge and does so pretty much immediately with minimal casualties: Undeniable US military W

The failings of the out-of-touch political class with their lofty 'nation building' is not a military failure. Its a failure of policy and politics.
 
The failings of the out-of-touch political class with their lofty 'nation building' is not a military failure. Its a failure of policy and politics.

Who do you think controls the military, ya nonce. You can't separate them, they are one and the same. You think they would fair better if they decided to attack Russia?

The US military apparatus is an overly expensive jobs program that creates shareholder value for the MIC, that is all it is. It doesn't matter how much entertainment you consoom that make you think differently, the proof is in the pudding.
 
You can't separate them,
While true what I CAN do is draw distinctions between military success and political failure. The military did its part and did so with exemplary distinction in both cases. Its the 'civilian'-lead political sector that failed.

You think they would fair better if they decided to attack Russia?
Assuming we just went in to fuck up their shit and then leave them to figure out 'reconstruction' on their own? It would go way better.
 
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Bush said "Mission Accomplished" in 2003, so I guess staying in Iraq for another 20 years, costing billions in US taxpayer money and costing countless lives after we already "won" is what winning looks like?
Accomplishing a mission is fucking different as opposed to winning a war. As the "Mission Accomplished" banner had been just for that particular carrier battle group. Who had just accomplished the mission assigned to it and told Dubya it will be an extremely bad idea to leave the banner up precisely for this reason. As most Americans along with the rest of the world's population don't fucking know the English vocabulary.

Copy paste from wikipedo and the bolded line is pertinent to the topic at hand.
mission /mĭsh′ən/
noun
A special assignment given to a person or group.
"an agent on a secret mission."
A combat operation assigned to a person or military unit.
An aerospace operation intended to carry out specific program objectives.
"a mission to Mars."
An ambition or purpose that is assumed by a person or group.
"felt it was his mission in life to help the poor."
A body of persons sent to conduct negotiations or establish relations with a foreign country.
The business with which such a body of persons is charged.
A permanent diplomatic office abroad
 
I mean, Russia can't even keep their hot water pipes from freezing over and turning their Commieblock apartments from turning into ice palaces during the winter. Once you get outside of the major cities like Moscow and St. Petersburg it's still far too common to find houses that don't even have in-home toilets, with a lot of rural Ruskies having to shit in communal outhouses, or just plain holes in the ground. The T-14 and Su-57 FAIL-on are still essentially pre-production prototypes. The vast majority of Russian troops still don't have optics as standard on their rifles twenty plus years after optics became standard equipment for every Western military. There are literally videos circulating of Russian invaders in Ukraine going through rural Ukrainian homes after the families who lived in them have fled, marveling at all the advanced things in the homes like...running water, toilets, and washing machines, and the Ruskies making bitter commentary about "Who do these Ukrainians think they are? What gives them the right to live in nicer homes than we have in Russia?"

I can go on and on about how pathetic and back-asswards Russia is due to corruption and incompetence, but the fact is that the Russian Bear is a fucking joke. Even in the unlikely event that they eek out some sort of win in Ukraine, they are heading for a collapse likely within our lifetime. They have become such a pariah on the world stage that Putin is having to go groveling to fucking NORTH KOREA for aid. We are going to see another collapse just like the USSR and Putin is likely going to find himself either assassinated by the military or an oligarch, or hanged by the Russian people, and all the regions of Russia that have wanted independence are going to break away. China will invade and claim the parts of Manchuria they lost to Russia a hundred years ago. And I'm absolutely here for it, because it's fucking hilarious.
 
Accomplishing a mission is fucking different as opposed to winning a war. As the "Mission Accomplished" banner had been just for that particular carrier battle group. Who had just accomplished the mission assigned to it and told Dubya it will be an extremely bad idea to leave the banner up precisely for this reason. As most Americans along with the rest of the world's population don't fucking know the English vocabulary.

Copy paste from wikipedo and the bolded line is pertinent to the topic at hand.

And yet after 20 years and all the wasted lives and money, the US military left and Iraq is worse than it was when we got there. Bang up job. And the Taliban kicked us out of Afghanistan too, another 20 year boondoggle.
 
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And yet after 20 years and all the wasted lives and money, the US military left and Iraq is worse than it was when we got there. Bang up job. And the Taliban kicked us out of Afghanistan too, another 20 year boondoggle.
The Taliban didn't kick anyone out of Afghanistan. They came out of the caves they were stuck in when the US left and routed the Afghani loser army.
 
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I'm not sure how much of it is the crumbling educational system and how much is the fact that all the smart Russkies get the fuck out of the country to live in the west
That's a problem for many countries even western euro ones since wages are higher over here than in germany or the uk, however I do recall seeing lots of russian engineers in companies over here when I was a kid, but by the time I started working there were way less, and now? haven't seen a russian coder IRL a while, and I mean russian national not ethnic.
 
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