Rust (the language) hate thread

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I feel like usage of Rust is being artificially pushed in Mozilla, Microsoft, Discord, Linux, etc.

Do you think it genuinely has a place in software development? Is it too late to fix its flaws? Why would someone prefer Rust to C++ or vice-versa?
 
Evil Whitey said:
I feel like usage of Rust is being artificially pushed in Mozilla, Microsoft, Discord, Linux, etc.

Do you think it genuinely has a place in software development? Is it too late to fix its flaws? Why would someone prefer Rust to C++ or vice-versa?
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Rust is a jeet language. Companies are moving to jeets for underpaid borderline slave labor only a retarded pajeet would work in to have aryan hardworking men saar! Retarded jeets can't learn how to actually code and so they are stuck needing training wheel languages that baby them.

It has a place in software development the same as any non C language. Either:

A) The companys employees are familiar with it (mostly trannys, look at PopOS as an example)
B) The companys trying to bleed actually smart employee that cost a lot of money in exchange for remote code monkeys that work for a few dollars an hour (every big tech giant)
 
Kosher Dill said:
They want something that's guaranteed not to crash
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good luck doing that
also good luck making sure that the pointy-haired boss submitting his small-minded conceptions of what he thinks he wants the software to do will be accurately translated into a representation of what the program should actually do and that this is then accurately converted into something that doesn't have a logic error that ruins everything 6 years down the line in some weird edge case

we will see many jeet languages over the future. this one is just an overly complicated sluggishly compiling aot systems language that is supposedly much better than the other overly complicated sluggishly compiling aot systems language because the compiler will yell at you if you don't use references and raii containers at all times
jeets will eventually find ways to monumentally screw up while writing rust (they always do, remember how java was supposed to replace c++ in a lot of application development because it's hard to fuck up in it like people fuck up in c++?) and then rust will be one of those languages that everybody rightfully shits on because it's just as shitty as any of the other shitty programming languages that make our lives harder
 
I haven't seen anyone dropping this gem: https://github.com/Speykious/cve-rs
Blazingly 🔥 fast 🚀 memory vulnerabilities, written in 100% safe Rust. 🦀
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However, if I understand correctly, it has been patched somewhen int late 2024.


I was looking through the CppCon catalog and found this lightning talk:

As you may notice, the titles do not match up: the talk is named "How I found time to learn Emacs", but is uploaded as "Rust programming in 5 minutes".
It should be quite obvious what happened; this fag viewed the Emacs-brained as viable prey and pulled a bait-and-switch on them, but the man uploading the video rightfully found that petty.
What is interesting is that he talks with no coherence whatsoever. He mentions 3 random topics, refuses to elaborate, then finishes his blazingly fast talk under less than half of what it was supposed last.
 
5000% Sure said:
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This meme is really remarkable, because there is not a single technical argument in the image. "Safety" put in quotes is the only remotely technical thing in there, otherwise it's all unrelated words. Moreover, the remaining OP merely makes fun of Rust programmers being trannies or something, again without offering any deeper critique of the language's design or anything related to the language itself. It's not like Rust is flawless, but if you want to convince anyone it has to be more than that. This is your brain if you consume /g/ (or similar places, communities, or media) all day.
 
Mergers and Acquisitions said:
This freak just banned me from the rust discord
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dont pozload you fucking nigger
really why were you anywhere near a rust discord in the first place

also this thread is for hating the rust language, not the rust community
the rust community might be extremely retarded but the language itself is a shittier version of c++ (yes they somehow made c++ shittier don't ask me how) and one of the biggest jeet abominations to exist
 
Mergers and Acquisitions said:
This freak just banned me from the rust discord
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>Discord
>Rust
What did you expect?
Creative Username said:
also this thread is for hating the rust language, not the rust community
the rust community might be extremely retarded but the language itself is a shittier version of c++
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These two things are related y' know.
Only the worst abominations can come out of a cancerous community.
In the case of Rust it's the other way around. There must be some inherent trait (heh) of the language that attracts these freaks.
 
Lard Shart said:
There must be some inherent trait (heh) of the language that attracts these freaks.
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actually not really the case, it just happens to be trendy over being about as fast as c without most of the segmentation faults
it also has a cancerous package manager to install 300 dependencies with
this makes the language easier to get into
and it seems that "easy" languages are troon magnets since thinking really hard is something most troons have trouble with
 
Creative Username said:
actually not really the case, it just happens to be trendy over being about as fast as c without most of the segmentation faults
it also has a cancerous package manager to install 300 dependencies with
this makes the language easier to get into
and it seems that "easy" languages are troon magnets since thinking really hard is something most troons have trouble with
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I actually really like cargo because it hits that sweet spot of easy package management without that weird npm bullshit where one crybaby can do npm unpublish left-pad and break millions of projects all at once.

I think Rust hatred is sort of overblown. It is true that you have to use unsafe to do important stuff but the guarantees it provides elsewhere ensures that the code you're writing is pretty safe. The best proof of this is that this thread has nine pages and yet it's mostly just bitching about the Rust community, not the language itself.
 
The Noise said:
sweet spot of easy package management
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tell this to debian maintainers and people who want a bill of materials that wouldn't take several miles if printed on fanfold paper
The Noise said:
yet it's mostly just bitching about the Rust community, not the language itself.
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the language itself is a horribly overblown piece of shit slightly different version of c++
it's almost too boring to shit on the language itself so people shit on its horribly designed tooling and shitty community (and there's a lot to work with there)

anyway to provide an example of how uninspired and boringly shit its language design is, rust doesn't have guaranteed tail call optimization and not having proper tail call support in a language is fucking retarded because it's so valuable to be able to do stuff like small state machines using mutual recursion without worrying about overflowing the stack
 
What happened to Linus Torvalds insisting that Git could only be written in C because it represents data structures directly on the bare metal and is writtten entirely by programming gods for whom higher-level features are a useless distraction?
 
Isn't Rust just FLOSS Java? It can be okay (like Hyphanet which uses Rust, although it's usually only safe behind a VM anyways), but I prefer Python to script with. C is okay though, but it depends on the application, usually.
 
StolenWindows said:
Isn't Rust just FLOSS Java?
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jesus fuck you can't even effectively hate rust because you're just completely retarded
rust is a slightly more strict-by-default version of c++ that retards shill as the second coming of christ (it really just makes computing more complicated than it's worth though)

it doesn't involve a bytecode vm at all like java does, and it also doesn't traditionally have a garbage collector like java has, and it essentially has no relation to java at all except for language-level memory safety and being shilled by retards to no end
also java has been free software for a good while now (see openjdk, the reference implementation)
 
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