Dramacow Ryulong / Michael Cohen - Fanatic Wikisperg, Anti-Gamergater and All Around Asshole

I expect nothing less than a Defcon 5 chimpout when he discovers this.

Where, though? Unlike pretty much every other lolcow, Ryu doesn't just post shit into the mass expanse of public domain like Twitter or even OPL's/ADF's facebook posts and videos. AFAIK the only monitorable place where his reactions can be put is on RW ever since Wikipedia gave his ass the boot, and unless he tries to fight fire with fire by making an RW wiki on us, I doubt he's just going to start using his talk page as a rant blog.
 
Carpetsmoker brought the MLP page back to Articles for Deletion because Mikey and Adam keep fighting over it.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Articles_for_deletion/My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic_(2nd_nomination)

Continued fighting over this page is an embarrassment to this site. Does this really relate to RW:MISSION? No "pseudoscience" or "Anti-science" involved; I've seen very little real "crank" ideas involved, and it doesn't relate to either "authoritarianism" or "fundamentalism". Aren't we better off bashing each other's head in over something that actually matters? Carpetsmoker (talk) 14:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Cohen and Adam both want it deleted.

It really has no place outside of the odd obsession with one episode that was justified for its inclusion last time and a vague association with Internet assholes. The page's existence locally is nothing more than fans of the show who have an odd insistence that it must be included wherever possible even on the barest of justifications like the "oh in this episode it teaches viewers that you should just accept supernatural faith instead of science based reasoning" when it's magical cartoon horses and its odd fandom amongst MRAs and such.—Ryulong (talk) 20:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Delete. Trying to write something bronies won't get upset about is like ramming your head into a brick wall. If we can't be critical about the fandom, it does not deserve to be on rationalwiki, as that makes the article a waste. And in my experience, even the most minor critical assertion is fought over. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 22:31, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

The thing is, it is on mission. And I don't know that we should go down the road of deleting articles just because they cause controversy.---Mona- (talk) 22:07, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

If I squint just so, I can perhaps slightly see the vague outlines of missionality. Normally I wouldn't object to articles that are only vaguely on-mission, but when it kicks up a shitfest every month we're better off without it. I don't care a flying hoot about MLP, but I also don't want RW to be hosting pages that call entire fandoms a bunch of demented horsefuckers. So good people, like you and me, have to spend time "protecting" this article from the likes of Ryulong). We both have more important matters to attend to, both on this wiki, and outside it. Carpetsmoker (talk) 22:11, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

It's not missional. It's Brony puffery about their favorite TV show made to look missional. "This episode teaches girls I mean Bronies to accept non-science based faith" is as much of a fucking stretch as one can get, as can the original wording of several parts that amounted to the usual libertarian/objectivist obsession with "censorship" because a background animation error in joke at the production company turned into a completely different demeaning joke by the fans.—Ryulong (talk) 22:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Adam is currently edit warring to insert salt in order to drown out a quote from Lauren Faust herself saying hating on bronies isn't cool.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...Magic&curid=175671&diff=1579696&oldid=1579695
 
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Carpetsmoker brought the MLP page back to Articles for Deletion because Mikey and Adam keep fighting over it.

I'm mildly torn on it in the sense that why the fuck is there an article, first, but it would make me agree with these two morons.

I expect nothing less than a Defcon 5 chimpout when he discovers this.

DEFCON 5 is actually complete peace. DEFCON 1 is immediate nukefest.
 

And already I've learned something new, though not really surprising - his position as admin on Wikipedia was through a buddy of his basically exploiting nepotism, pure and simple.

What amazes me is how despite being a total asshole to literally anybody alive, this guy somehow has the exact right people on his side (and ONLY these people) to sustain this stupidity.
 
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And already I've learned something new, though not really surprising - his position as admin on Wikipedia was through a buddy of his basically exploiting nepotism, pure and simple.

What amazes me is how despite being a total asshole to literally anybody alive, this guy somehow has the exact right people on his side (and ONLY these people) to sustain this stupidity.

I've been trying to avoid discussing GG outside the Gamergate thread, but since the issue is directly responsible for getting Ryulong thrown off Wikipedia, we pretty much have to discuss it on this one.

Don't worry, I'll keep it quick.

I haven't even dug that deep yet, but Ryulong's entire career on Wikipedia has been established by him kissing up to the right people. Without getting into too much detail, let's just leave it that Ryulong is entirely too cozy with certain parties who shall remain nameless. Given that it was his Gamergate sperging that led to this, you probably shouldn't be surprised that among his strongest supporters were some of the usual suspects.

Interested in more? Check the spoiler tags, in which my own attempt to find answers led me to some interesting places.

When I said "usual suspects," I fucking meant it. He's in deep in the Anti camp. But I was wondering: "How? How did dragondicks wind up in this particular camp?" I started thinking of possible connectyions, when I remembered something from the Wu thread - this particular bit of curiousity, in fact:


This made me suspicious, so I started doing research into connections between Brianna Wu and Dragonpenis. Suffice to say, I was a bit surprised - there are dozens of tweet exchanges between the two. Now Ryulong is smart enough to protect his tweets, so we don't know what he said, but this was enough to spark my curiousity, so I began to investigate. I started digging through responses to Kenshort's tweets and contacted my few anon sources from the Wu camp, who insisted that Ryulong's more than a little chummy with Anti-GG in general.

Naturally, exchanges between him and the others, including Pedo Nyberg soon followed:


At this point it was very clear that some sort of connection was had. These people knowing each other seemed too convenient. But then I realized: "Wait a minute. If these idiots had gotten Ryulong appointed, did they also ultimately get him removed by accident, as well?"

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yes, and there's more behind it that makes it fucking hilarious.

To understand the full breadth of the humor, travel back to when Ryudong was appointed. Lacking the numbers for an actual confirmation vote, one user did an end-run around the rules and Ryulong was given admin powers anyway. That individual was Raul654, who veteran lolcow chronicleers would know better as Mark Pellegrini. Pellegrini is infamous for appointing SysOps not for any actual ability or capability, but because they'll push an agenda and have his back in the process. He was known for more being a power-mad shitheel and elitist than anything else, but identity politics makes interesting bedfellows.

I won't say he's Raul's an Anti or an SJW or anything. The dude's pretty quiet Wiki Sperging aside so I don't know his politics that well. What I will say, however, is that his appointees are all knee-deep in Social Justice.

Note I said "appointees." As in, besides Ryulong. Indeed, Raul654 is also responsible for Phil Sandifer being appointed as a SysOp, under almost the same fucking practice. For the uninitiated, Sandifer, AKA Snowspinner, is a notorious Anti-GGer who, amusingly enough, is, like Ryulong, infamous for abusing his authority.

He's also responsible for shit like this:


According to one of my sources, he's also a personal friend of Brianna Wu's, and a member of the PIDF:


Even better, like Ryudong, Sandifer was banhammered. In his case, it was in 2012 after some intense sperging over Chelsea Manning because OMG Deadnaming. He took it about as gracefully as Dhalsimfucker did.

So let's go over what this excursion has taught us so far:

1. Ryulong was appointed by someone who has appointed other pro-SocJus (and openly corrupt) admins on Wikipedia.
2. Ryulong is also on friendly terms with multiple Antis, including Pedo Nyberg, Randwhale, etc.
3. Ryulong is on friendly terms with Snowspinner, who is friends with these same Antis.
4. Both Ryulong and Snowspinner got banhammered.

All of which brings us back to Gamerghazi:

Mudze the Gamerghazi mod said:
After a discussion with Ryulong, we've both decided it would be best if he stepped away from the GamerGate Controversy Wikipedia article.

So right out the gate, we know they were involved. "We both decided he should step away from the article." That's pretty interesting. What else is in this particular thread?

Mudze the Gamerghazi mod said:
The article that Ryulong has worked on is extensive and well-researched, and incredibly neutral in light of the constant brigade it has received by affronted GamerGators. He is an excellent editor, and I hope he continues to improve the quality of Wikipedia.

That being said, it would be nearly impossible not to develop biases and relationships over the course of editing such a hotly contested subject, which is the case here. Ryulong has gotten into heated arguments over the state of the article, and brought about a fair amount of drama. I don't think any other editor would have been able to avoid this, it's just the inevitable consequence of talking about GamerGate.

I am a big fan of the current Wikipedia article. I'm an even bigger fan of people stepping up and admitting that they may not be able to continue to approach a subject objectively. Which is why I'm shamelessly bumping a donation drive again. I know, I know, I'm too soft :P
For those worried about the future state of the article, don't be, Wikipedia is very organised, and very fair, despite its reputation. They'll continue to make sure that they hold themselves to high standards.

Now this incident would be the financial incident that would come up and indict him during the Arbcom discussion. For the uninitiated, Ryulong ran an Indiegogo to get his stuff back from Japan. The person who paid for pretty much the entire thing was a raging Anti-GGer whose Twitter hasn't been updated since they were initially linked to financially supporting Ryulong.

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So at this point, we have the complete Ryulong Wikipedia history:

1. Ryulong is appointed a mod by a corrupt Wikipedia admin who also appointed Snowspinner and has a history of similar Social Justice-supporting appointments

2. Ryulong is directly supportive of the Anti-GGers, and essentially wages war on their behalf on Wikipedia.

3. He eventually pisses off everyone remotely involved. After countless cases of him violating rules, abusing his authority, and getting nailed for being financially supported of a cause he's actively doing wiki work for, the fucking inevitable happens and he's desysopped.

4. He spergs even harder, and is banhammered. My fucking sides.
 
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This is fantastic stuff! But I have one issue:



I sincerely doubt that Cohen has a huge schlong. Just call him Jewranger or something. :V

Nah, we can do better. Dude named himself such that the word "drag" happens twice in a row, we can totally work with that.
 
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Note I said "appointees." As in, besides Ryulong. Indeed, Raul654 is also responsible for Phil Sandifer being appointed as a SysOp, under almost the same fucking practice. For the uninitiated, Sandifer, AKA Snowspinner, is a notorious Anti-GGer who, amusingly enough, is, like Ryulong, infamous for abusing his authority.

Phil Sandifer is known for a bunch of things, including writing a piece of fiction so weird and creepy that, for a time, it actually made him a suspect in unsolved murders.

No, really.

He was actually investigated by police at the University of Florida who wanted to compare his fingerprints to those at various crime scenes of unsolved murders.

This ultimately amounted to nothing and I'm pretty sure the police were overreacting, but it's undeniable that he's kind of a creepy dude, if you've seen him interacting with the public in his autistic way.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong/Archive_20#Username_transaltion.3F

the fucking inevitable happens and he's desysopped.

Unless he got them back at some point, I believe Cohen lost sysop long before Gamergate, although he did lose Rollback rights (again) in November 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Ryulong#Ryulong_desysopped

He also has an account on Wikiversity which he used in June of this year to harass someone: https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special:contributions&contribs=user&target=Ryulong&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=2015&month=-1

In addition to his confirmed proxies Adam aka Kitsunelaine and OuendanL, Cohen also has a network of contacts he messages on Skype/whatever to do his bidding on Wikipedia, this includes Salvidrim! (although he has claimed to have changed his mind) and possibly Gamaliel, the chucklefuck sysop of Gamergate controversy infamy. MarkBernstein, yet another anti-Gamergater with lolcow tendencies, is best buds with Gamaliel (the only reason Mark isn't indef topic banned or site blocked) and was able to get lies on his blog about the Gamergate ArbCom case published in The Atlantic and a few others (Mark claimed ArbCom was essentially lining feminists up against the wall and banning them all - before the case was even finished - which got parroted by 'reliable sources'). Much like Cohen, Mark has spent over a year of his life obsessively ranting and raving about Gamergate, and he is also sweet on Ryulong to the extent of spewing this bullshit about how everyone should pitch in to pay off Ryulong's paid editing scandal, and to this day still whines that Gamergaters supposedly outed Ryulong as gay on Wikipedia. (Coincidentally, all three of these people were running for ArbCom this year, although Salvidrim! has withdrawn)
 
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He's also been banned by Transformers Wiki, who remembers him with about the same level of fondness one might have for a malignant tumor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong/Archive_20#Username_transaltion.3F



Unless he got them back at some point, I believe Cohen lost sysop long before Gamergate, although he did lose Rollback rights (again) in November 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Ryulong#Ryulong_desysopped

He also has an account on Wikiversity which he used in June of this year to harass someone: https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special:contributions&contribs=user&target=Ryulong&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=2015&month=-1

In addition to his confirmed proxies Adam aka Kitsunelaine and OuendanL, Cohen also has a network of contacts he messages on Skype/whatever to do his bidding on Wikipedia, this includes Salvidrim! (although he has claimed to have changed his mind) and possibly Gamaliel, the chucklefuck sysop of Gamergate controversy infamy. MarkBernstein, yet another anti-Gamergater with lolcow tendencies, is best buds with Gamaliel (the only reason Mark isn't indef topic banned or site blocked) and was able to get lies on his blog about the Gamergate ArbCom case published in The Atlantic and a few others (Mark claimed ArbCom was essentially lining feminists up against the wall and banning them all - before the case was even finished - which got parroted by 'reliable sources'). Much like Cohen, Mark has spent over a year of his life obsessively ranting and raving about Gamergate, and he is also sweet on Ryulong to the extent of spewing this bullshit about how everyone should pitch in to pay off Ryulong's paid editing scandal, and to this day still whines that Gamergaters supposedly outed Ryulong as gay on Wikipedia. (Coincidentally, all three of these people were running for ArbCom this year, although Salvidrim! has withdrawn)

I'll update accordingly to add this information as time merits.
 
He's also been banned by Transformers Wiki, who remembers him with about the same level of fondness one might have for a malignant tumor.

Japanese Wikipedia didn't like him much either. https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/利用者‐会話:Ryulong#Reply

Please post to the Wikipedia:Help for Non-Japanese Speakers etc, about discussions in English,in the future. Please not post in talk page of japanese Wikipedian, as possible. The reason is, to reduce the burden of the Japanese Wikipedia community. You'll have a moral responsibility that must be cooperation for this purpose. The reason of moral responsibility is, despite this place is within the Japanese community, you're posting in English. ←this is reason.

Your hope which you want to post in English is merely your personal circumstances. Your hope is not the Japanese personal circumstances.

So, you must bear the labor of depending on Wikipedia:Help for Non-Japanese Speakers.

Please do not contact me ,even if there is that you do not know about my post , I will not answer to your question.--すじにくシチュー会話) 2015年10月11日 (日) 22:53 (UTC)

Hello, Mr.(or Ms.) Ryulong . I'm too stupid, That's why I can't speak English very well. It will be difficult for you to comprehend this discussion. I think you don't have to join in with them, because your Japanese is poor. --Hi-lite会話) 2015年10月12日 (月) 04:49 (UTC)
 
I wasn't going to, but that talk page is so ball-shakingly hilarious I just had to sign up here. Ryulong is, I shit you not, inserting himself into discussions about Japanese linguistics on the Japanese wiki - with language skills somewhere between a lamppost and a kindergardener after watching two seasons of Sailor Moon.
My attempt at translating:

僕は日本で二年間住んでいた。後で、日本語しゃべりはちょっと難しくなった。—Ryulong (竜龍) 2015年10月12日 (月) 01:42 (UTC)

今回の論点は日本語学者の間でも主張が別れるような複雑な問題です。非日本語話者と一緒になって、言語と方言(弁)の違いを議論するのは非常に困難でしょう。単刀直入に言えば、Ryulongの積極的な参加は、本人が意図していなくても議論の妨害に繋がりますので、ご遠慮頂けるように促そうと思います。以下、やさしいにほんご、英語で説明します。Ryulongさん、こんにちは。あなたは2年間、日本に住んでいました。日本語が少し分かりますね。でも、あなたの国は日本ではありません。これはとても難しい問題です。日本語の先生も分かりません。みんなと話すのは、止めた方が良いと思います。

I lived 2 years in Japan. After, speakjapanese did turn difficult a little. —Ryulong (竜龍) 2015年10月12日 (月) 01:42 (UTC)

This is a complicated point which even Japanese linguists are divided on. For a non-Japanese speaker, debating on the differences between Japanese dialects seems like an extremely challenging endeavor. To put it bluntly, Ryulong's proactive involvement is interrupting the discourse, and he should please refrain from continuing it.
I will now explain in easy Japanese.
(in baby syntax and about second-grader kanji)
Ryulong, hello. You lived in Japan for 2 years. You understand Japanese a little, yes? But your country is not Japan. This problem is very difficult. Japanese teachers also do not understand it. It is best if you stop speaking to us.

I'm on my phone, so this has been a hard struggle to post. Note Ryu is panicking and requesting the deletion of his blunders (in English of course, because why learn from your mistakes), but if things are still up later I'll definitely give it another go. There's much hilarity to be found in there.
 
He's also been banned by Transformers Wiki, who remembers him with about the same level of fondness one might have for a malignant tumor.



I'll update accordingly to add this information as time merits.

Wait, which Transformers Wiki? There's the original on wikia (might still be called Teletraan-1) which was abandoned some time ago by the bulk of the editing team due to shitty Wikia policies, and then there's TFwiki, which is where the editing team created a new independent site hosted on I think David Willis' server.
 
Also, just a thought.
5.3) Ryulong (talk·contribs·logs·edit filter log·block log) is indefinitely banned from the English Language Wikipedia. They may request reconsideration of the ban twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.

Passed 8 to 4, with 1 abstentions, at 00:38, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
So we've got a decent chance of some new Wikipedia material at the end of January.
 
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I wasn't going to, but that talk page is so ball-shakingly hilarious I just had to sign up here. Ryulong is, I shit you not, inserting himself into discussions about Japanese linguistics on the Japanese wiki - with language skills somewhere between a lamppost and a kindergardener after watching two seasons of Sailor Moon.
My attempt at translating:





I'm on my phone, so this has been a hard struggle to post. Note Ryu is panicking and requesting the deletion of his blunders (in English of course, because why learn from your mistakes), but if things are still up later I'll definitely give it another go. There's much hilarity to be found in there.

:story:
How much of a retard is this man? Is he literally going to explode if he doesn't involve himself into a Wiki? Like, why would you do that?
 
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