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Better yet, a wiki article he has no control over himself.
I expect nothing less than a
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Better yet, a wiki article he has no control over himself.
I expect nothing less than a Defcon 5 chimpout when he discovers this.
Continued fighting over this page is an embarrassment to this site. Does this really relate to RW:MISSION? No "pseudoscience" or "Anti-science" involved; I've seen very little real "crank" ideas involved, and it doesn't relate to either "authoritarianism" or "fundamentalism". Aren't we better off bashing each other's head in over something that actually matters? Carpetsmoker (talk) 14:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
It really has no place outside of the odd obsession with one episode that was justified for its inclusion last time and a vague association with Internet assholes. The page's existence locally is nothing more than fans of the show who have an odd insistence that it must be included wherever possible even on the barest of justifications like the "oh in this episode it teaches viewers that you should just accept supernatural faith instead of science based reasoning" when it's magical cartoon horses and its odd fandom amongst MRAs and such.—Ryulong (talk) 20:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Delete. Trying to write something bronies won't get upset about is like ramming your head into a brick wall. If we can't be critical about the fandom, it does not deserve to be on rationalwiki, as that makes the article a waste. And in my experience, even the most minor critical assertion is fought over. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 22:31, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
The thing is, it is on mission. And I don't know that we should go down the road of deleting articles just because they cause controversy.---Mona- (talk) 22:07, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
If I squint just so, I can perhaps slightly see the vague outlines of missionality. Normally I wouldn't object to articles that are only vaguely on-mission, but when it kicks up a shitfest every month we're better off without it. I don't care a flying hoot about MLP, but I also don't want RW to be hosting pages that call entire fandoms a bunch of demented horsefuckers. So good people, like you and me, have to spend time "protecting" this article from the likes of Ryulong). We both have more important matters to attend to, both on this wiki, and outside it. Carpetsmoker (talk) 22:11, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
It's not missional. It's Brony puffery about their favorite TV show made to look missional. "This episode teaches girls I mean Bronies to accept non-science based faith" is as much of a fucking stretch as one can get, as can the original wording of several parts that amounted to the usual libertarian/objectivist obsession with "censorship" because a background animation error in joke at the production company turned into a completely different demeaning joke by the fans.—Ryulong (talk) 22:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Carpetsmoker brought the MLP page back to Articles for Deletion because Mikey and Adam keep fighting over it.
I expect nothing less than a Defcon 5 chimpout when he discovers this.
In before he comes here to bitch.
A coin in hand, a word in ear, and the beginnings of a new chapter in mocking a lolcow begins.
Minor observation: the pages Ryulong lorded over were for tokusastu (toku for short), not sentai. Sentai refers to a specific series while toku refers to the genre.
In before he comes here to bitch.
A coin in hand, a word in ear, and the beginnings of a new chapter in mocking a lolcow begins.
And already I've learned something new, though not really surprising - his position as admin on Wikipedia was through a buddy of his basically exploiting nepotism, pure and simple.
What amazes me is how despite being a total asshole to literally anybody alive, this guy somehow has the exact right people on his side (and ONLY these people) to sustain this stupidity.
Mudze the Gamerghazi mod said:After a discussion with Ryulong, we've both decided it would be best if he stepped away from the GamerGate Controversy Wikipedia article.
Mudze the Gamerghazi mod said:The article that Ryulong has worked on is extensive and well-researched, and incredibly neutral in light of the constant brigade it has received by affronted GamerGators. He is an excellent editor, and I hope he continues to improve the quality of Wikipedia.
That being said, it would be nearly impossible not to develop biases and relationships over the course of editing such a hotly contested subject, which is the case here. Ryulong has gotten into heated arguments over the state of the article, and brought about a fair amount of drama. I don't think any other editor would have been able to avoid this, it's just the inevitable consequence of talking about GamerGate.
I am a big fan of the current Wikipedia article. I'm an even bigger fan of people stepping up and admitting that they may not be able to continue to approach a subject objectively. Which is why I'm shamelessly bumping a donation drive again. I know, I know, I'm too soft
For those worried about the future state of the article, don't be, Wikipedia is very organised, and very fair, despite its reputation. They'll continue to make sure that they hold themselves to high standards.
Dragondicks/Dragonpenis/Ryudong
@Jaimas Skill up: Researching +5
This is fantastic stuff! But I have one issue:
I sincerely doubt that Cohen has a huge schlong. Just call him Jewranger or something. :V
Note I said "appointees." As in, besides Ryulong. Indeed, Raul654 is also responsible for Phil Sandifer being appointed as a SysOp, under almost the same fucking practice. For the uninitiated, Sandifer, AKA Snowspinner, is a notorious Anti-GGer who, amusingly enough, is, like Ryulong, infamous for abusing his authority.
the fucking inevitable happens and he's desysopped.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong/Archive_20#Username_transaltion.3F
Unless he got them back at some point, I believe Cohen lost sysop long before Gamergate, although he did lose Rollback rights (again) in November 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Ryulong#Ryulong_desysopped
He also has an account on Wikiversity which he used in June of this year to harass someone: https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Specialontributions&contribs=user&target=Ryulong&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=2015&month=-1
In addition to his confirmed proxies Adam aka Kitsunelaine and OuendanL, Cohen also has a network of contacts he messages on Skype/whatever to do his bidding on Wikipedia, this includes Salvidrim! (although he has claimed to have changed his mind) and possibly Gamaliel, the chucklefuck sysop of Gamergate controversy infamy. MarkBernstein, yet another anti-Gamergater with lolcow tendencies, is best buds with Gamaliel (the only reason Mark isn't indef topic banned or site blocked) and was able to get lies on his blog about the Gamergate ArbCom case published in The Atlantic and a few others (Mark claimed ArbCom was essentially lining feminists up against the wall and banning them all - before the case was even finished - which got parroted by 'reliable sources'). Much like Cohen, Mark has spent over a year of his life obsessively ranting and raving about Gamergate, and he is also sweet on Ryulong to the extent of spewing this bullshit about how everyone should pitch in to pay off Ryulong's paid editing scandal, and to this day still whines that Gamergaters supposedly outed Ryulong as gay on Wikipedia. (Coincidentally, all three of these people were running for ArbCom this year, although Salvidrim! has withdrawn)
He's also been banned by Transformers Wiki, who remembers him with about the same level of fondness one might have for a malignant tumor.
Please post to the Wikipedia:Help for Non-Japanese Speakers etc, about discussions in English,in the future. Please not post in talk page of japanese Wikipedian, as possible. The reason is, to reduce the burden of the Japanese Wikipedia community. You'll have a moral responsibility that must be cooperation for this purpose. The reason of moral responsibility is, despite this place is within the Japanese community, you're posting in English. ←this is reason.
Your hope which you want to post in English is merely your personal circumstances. Your hope is not the Japanese personal circumstances.
So, you must bear the labor of depending on Wikipedia:Help for Non-Japanese Speakers.
Please do not contact me ,even if there is that you do not know about my post , I will not answer to your question.--すじにくシチュー(会話) 2015年10月11日 (日) 22:53 (UTC)
僕は日本で二年間住んでいた。後で、日本語しゃべりはちょっと難しくなった。—Ryulong (竜龍) 2015年10月12日 (月) 01:42 (UTC)
今回の論点は日本語学者の間でも主張が別れるような複雑な問題です。非日本語話者と一緒になって、言語と方言(弁)の違いを議論するのは非常に困難でしょう。単刀直入に言えば、Ryulongの積極的な参加は、本人が意図していなくても議論の妨害に繋がりますので、ご遠慮頂けるように促そうと思います。以下、やさしいにほんご、英語で説明します。Ryulongさん、こんにちは。あなたは2年間、日本に住んでいました。日本語が少し分かりますね。でも、あなたの国は日本ではありません。これはとても難しい問題です。日本語の先生も分かりません。みんなと話すのは、止めた方が良いと思います。
I lived 2 years in Japan. After, speakjapanese did turn difficult a little. —Ryulong (竜龍) 2015年10月12日 (月) 01:42 (UTC)
This is a complicated point which even Japanese linguists are divided on. For a non-Japanese speaker, debating on the differences between Japanese dialects seems like an extremely challenging endeavor. To put it bluntly, Ryulong's proactive involvement is interrupting the discourse, and he should please refrain from continuing it.
I will now explain in easy Japanese.
(in baby syntax and about second-grader kanji)
Ryulong, hello. You lived in Japan for 2 years. You understand Japanese a little, yes? But your country is not Japan. This problem is very difficult. Japanese teachers also do not understand it. It is best if you stop speaking to us.
He's also been banned by Transformers Wiki, who remembers him with about the same level of fondness one might have for a malignant tumor.
I'll update accordingly to add this information as time merits.
So we've got a decent chance of some new Wikipedia material at the end of January.5.3) Ryulong (talk·contribs·logs·edit filter log·block log) is indefinitely banned from the English Language Wikipedia. They may request reconsideration of the ban twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.
Passed 8 to 4, with 1 abstentions, at 00:38, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I wasn't going to, but that talk page is so ball-shakingly hilarious I just had to sign up here. Ryulong is, I shit you not, inserting himself into discussions about Japanese linguistics on the Japanese wiki - with language skills somewhere between a lamppost and a kindergardener after watching two seasons of Sailor Moon.
My attempt at translating:
I'm on my phone, so this has been a hard struggle to post. Note Ryu is panicking and requesting the deletion of his blunders (in English of course, because why learn from your mistakes), but if things are still up later I'll definitely give it another go. There's much hilarity to be found in there.
That will work out well for the potential chimpouts.Also, just a thought.
So we've got a decent chance of some new Wikipedia material at the end of January.