Dramacow Ryulong / Michael Cohen - Fanatic Wikisperg, Anti-Gamergater and All Around Asshole

It is now the position of people here that Ryulong lives in NY while some also feel he may be in Miami.

I was the one who said he was in Miami. That's where he lived and worked before going to Japan, I assumed he went back home after his stay in Japan but I forgot that he wasn't actually from Florida. He's doing nothing but editing wikia for 12 hours a night while sleeping during the day. He's definitely back with his family in New York.
 
His behavior is actually indicative of severe untreated mental illness. If I had to guess, I'd say major depression. The symptoms include sleeping a lot, and combative behavior, as someone already mentioned (@AnOminous I think). Major Depression can get so bad, it can cause a psychotic break, which would would explain his obsessive editing and fixation on certain things. I think it's safe to say someone is taking care of him, or at least making sure he eats (people with severe depression have been known to simply stop eating and waste away) and does minimal self-care. He needs intervention badly. Nobody should be that fixated on a goddamn online encyclopedia and especially not about video games.
 
His behavior is actually indicative of severe untreated mental illness. If I had to guess, I'd say major depression. The symptoms include sleeping a lot, and combative behavior, as someone already mentioned (@AnOminous I think). Major Depression can get so bad, it can cause a psychotic break, which would would explain his obsessive editing and fixation on certain things. I think it's safe to say someone is taking care of him, or at least making sure he eats (people with severe depression have been known to simply stop eating and waste away) and does minimal self-care. He needs intervention badly. Nobody should be that fixated on a goddamn online encyclopedia and especially not about video games.
I dunno, he acts like such a pompous douche about everything and even without any diagnosis of anything, I still think he's a massive sperg if his DA is anything to go by.
 
His behavior is actually indicative of severe untreated mental illness. If I had to guess, I'd say major depression. The symptoms include sleeping a lot, and combative behavior, as someone already mentioned (@AnOminous I think). Major Depression can get so bad, it can cause a psychotic break, which would would explain his obsessive editing and fixation on certain things. I think it's safe to say someone is taking care of him, or at least making sure he eats (people with severe depression have been known to simply stop eating and waste away) and does minimal self-care. He needs intervention badly. Nobody should be that fixated on a goddamn online encyclopedia and especially not about video games.

Nah he's just an autistic no-life.
 
Holy shit, this is hilarious. Cohen was getting trolled on the Bleach wikia by someone invoking Mythdon, the name of a Cohen foe from long ago, and he just starts ranting and raving about Gamergate and begging for them to ban the guy. Ends up pleading and saying the trolls are trying to make him kill himself.

http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:SunXia?diff=prev&oldid=451532

http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:MythdonsRevenge

Hahaha this guy can't control himself. Here he is indenting and rearranging other editors' comments on another wiki: http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Chicken_coop&oldid=1483275#HuskyHarlot and then when they get tired of his nonsense and finally ban him, MONTHS LATER he's at it again using another account: http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...CatPotato&oldid=1589365#Ryulong-like_problems

And I can find half a dozen more examples from a bunch of different wikis. They guy is obsessed! It'll only end with an IP ban. Good luck whatever you do. MythdonsRevenge (talk) 19:47, December 17, 2015 (UTC)

http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong?diff=prev&oldid=451507

I know this user from other wiki(a) also his youtube channel. His strategy just keep arguing keep arguing keep arguing. He never give up! Always argue argue. MythdonsRevenge (talk) 02:23, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Cohen removed both those messages, claiming it was a "cyber stalker" and apologized to SunXia (a moderator) since one was on her talk page, and claimed he was reporting MythdonsRevenge. SunXia began restoring the comments since it is against their policy to fuck with talk page comments. Cohen began to beg for SunXia to ban MythdonsRevenge,

I apologize for having done so, but the person who left you a message previously is someone who has been stalking me across the Internet so I removed it. I am currently in the process of reporting him to Wikia general staff.—Ryulong (琉竜) 04:29, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

This drama is getting ridiculous. Please do not remove messages from my talk page, I have replied to it and will be messaging the user in question again. It is against policies to remove messages, especially from another users talk page unless there is a specific threat and abuse (you know ironically, like swearing at someone). SunXia (Chat) 11:31,12/19/2015 He is a troll who has come to this Wiki to harass me. Do not respond to him. Do not address him. Just ban him out right. If you seriously think I want this drama you really need to not focus so much on this community.—Ryulong (琉竜) 12:35, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I know you think you're doing your best with this situation but you are over your head. MythdonsRevenge is a troll who is stalking me from Reddit and/or 8chan. Just ban him. It's Gamergate nonsense and it has no place here. Please do not give him any more attention. I beg of you. And please do not restore his message here. He is lying to you about me because they are mocking me for trying to correct you guys. There are threads in one corner of Reddit where it's just to point and laugh at me saying "you spelled this wrong". He is not here from any other Wikis. Just this once help me out.—Ryulong (琉竜) 12:38, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Stop feeding this troll, SunXia. These rules you're enforcing are doing more harm than good. MythdonsRevenge is just here to lie to you about me and because you won't ignore him you're doing just what he wants. I'm not banned from anywhere right now except the English Wikipedia and its people like him who made that happen. Please. Stop responding to him. Stop restoring his message to you here. He is a troll here to harass and mock me. Just because the message isn't attacking you doesn't mean it's intent isn't to attack me. Please. Just stop. Please listen to me. He's only here to cause drama.—Ryulong (琉竜) 22:38, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

SunXia's patience was wearing thin. http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong?diff=prev&oldid=451559

First of all, check yourself, Sal undid your EDIT WARRING edit not me. Do NOT continue to Edit War on MY page. And as I said to your "troll", of the two of you, you deserve to be blocked for rules you have violated here, not him. He violated none of our Wiki Rules and agreed to drop the issue when I asked him. You on the other hand have refused to do anything that resembles obeying the rules here. If you are blocked, it will be because of your actions here. You have refused to take all chances given to you and continue to try and order a member of the team around like the rules don't apply to you. They do and you will learn that. I will be keeping your message perceiving to tell me what to do off my page as at this point it is you who are harassing me with your foul language and demands. SunXia (Chat) 23:19,12/19/2015

I am trying to tell you that MythdonsRevenge is solely a troll here to convince you to ban me because they want me banned from every Wiki-like website. I am asking you to stop responding to him and restoring his messages. He is here just to troll me and you are enabling him. I've not used any foul language with regards to this situation so I don't know why you are insisting I have. Please. Just stop listening to MythdonsRevenge.—Ryulong (琉竜) 00:26, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

Cohen then went to go pester the 'Sal' SunXia had mentioned. http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Salubri?diff=next&oldid=451560

As I have been trying to point out to SunXia, MythdonsRevenge is solely a Gamergate troll here to harass and mock me. His edits have only been to antagonize me and treat me as a villain because he is here from Gamergate websites and I have been made a target. Please ban him. He is only here because this is the only wikia where I am active and that the Gamergate trolls know I've been not welcomed because of my actions in the past. Please. The central Wikia staff haven't responded to my request yet and this situation is getting out of hand. SunXia dislikes me, I know that much, but MythdonsRevenge is only fanning those flames and he's staying within the rules to get on your good side while making me out to be a multi-wiki vandal and villain. I'm sorry for whatever mistakes I've made but it is all for benefiting this place.—Ryulong (琉竜) 00:27, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:SunXia?diff=prev&oldid=451562

Please SunXia. I have not been rude to you about this situation or used foul language in explaining this. MythdonsRevenge is only here to fan the flames against me. It is a Gamergate tactic to lie in order to isolate their target. That's all MythdonsRevenge has done. Please just listen to me. I'm sorry if I haven't followed the rules to a T but sometimes the rules get in the way. If I've broken any rule, it's because I did not know about it or it prevented me from improving this website. So please, please just listen to what I have to say here. You're helping Gamergate to harass me by insisting otherwise. Also I've slightly edited something else higher up cause it's breaking the rest of the page. So I apologize if that breaks another rule.—Ryulong (琉竜) 00:38, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

SunXia's heart was hardened by all of the DlagonDlagon's salt. http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong?diff=prev&oldid=451567

You are not askingyou are demanding. You are edit warring which you know full well about so don't try to play dumb. When an admin or member of the team does something or reverts something you do not change it this is called edit warring something you have been told multiple times about. I will be strongly speaking with Sal about this as I tire of telling you to stop doing it, given your edit warring history you should be gone. That user has dropped it, he has committed no offense here so the only one breaking rules, is you. He will not be banned for committing offenses elsewhere. You do understand how silly it is both of you demanding the other to be banned and the only one still doing it, is you when you are a rule breaker. SunXia (Chat) 00:49,12/20/2015

I am pleading with you to take care of this. I didn't check the history of the page to see who restored the comment, and that's a mistake. And I would think removing absolute trolling would be more important. And the difference is that I'm here trying to help you guys by pointing out mistakes. He's here to tell you to ban me because he's trying to get me to kill myself. I'm not trying to cause problems but every time I try to fix one I get you yelling at me. I'm sorry. I am trying to keep the drama to a minimum but when you persist on ignoring my concerns because I've edit warred over something as miniscule as your comment indentations or a troll's messages you're only adding to the problem.—Ryulong (琉竜) 01:08, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

Cohen said MythdonsRevenge is trying to get him to kill himself, SunXia was not impressed. "If you are killing yourself over a Wiki you care so little for you won't obey the rules then I advise serious help as that is not a healthy attitude to life. " http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong?diff=prev&oldid=451572

Let's not be dramatic here, you say you aren't causing trouble and yet bring up suicide, having lost a lot to suicide I find your comment ridiculous. The other user was dealth with, he has stopped, you are the one getting yourself into trouble. You are not a member of the team, you do not have the authority to take stuff like this into your hands. I have and I did and he has stopped. You are continuing. And there you go with your attitude again, you think your offences are nothing when they are disruptive. You can be the smartest person around but you are not an effective person because you cannot accept no or wait for an answer. It doesn't matter what you edit warred over the fact remains that you did so despite being told, during the offences to stop and receiving three count them, three warnings not to. You need to step back and take a deep breath and evaluate. That user came here and said you were disruptive and as it is, you have been disruptive, intentionally so because I have had to repeat myself many times to you when I shouldn't have to. However, I told that user that offences done elsewhere do not reflect blocks here and they don't and he stopped. You on the other hand have not. If you are banned here its because you have not once listened to me and even now continue to argue with me knowing you have violated the rules. You are a disruptive force and need to take a breather. If you are killing yourself over a Wiki you care so little for you won't obey the rules then I advise serious help as that is not a healthy attitude to life. SunXia (Chat) 01:21,12/20/2015

That is these trolls' end goal. They want me to be cut off from anything and everything that I try to do. They mock me on their troll boards. They actively pursue me to other websites. They push and harass and terrify. They post my full name places to intimidate me. This has nothing to do with this spelling correction which I was impatient in waiting for a response, but I am trying to prevent these horrible people from tricking you and everyone else into making the exact same mistakes every other website I have been on has. Forget the stupid spelling mistake. I am telling you about this other guy's agenda because it will only result in more problems.—Ryulong (琉竜) 02:56, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong?diff=prev&oldid=451575

Never thought I'd be typing the same words over and over and over again and I didn't thin I would have to clarify things like this but let's go:
  • We are not children to be "tricked". Personally, I am close to 30 and have obtained the life skills to know when someone is incorrectly doing something. He brought issues here that did not belong here. I told him to stop it and to stop getting involved because I'm not stupid. This is not Wikipedia or any other Wiki and he has broken no rules here so he stopped and has since moved on.
  • If he or another user returns, if they break the rules (which include ignoring warnings from us, irony) they will be dealt with. Until they break rules, they will be treated in the same capacity as any new user is to be treated. The same way you will not be banned because of his words about another site, he will not be banned for your words regarding another site. Equality and all.
  • IF anyone actually starts attacking you rather than referencing your past on another site here, they will be banned the same if you were to harass them.
  • You are still breaking rules even now in not moving on when I have told you to move on and continuing this disruptive ridiculous debacle when I have told you to stop. I have told the user off, he has stopped, I have told you to stop, you have not. You should get banned just so you will stop this childishness so as to take a break and a breath.
  • You actually lectured me on feeding trolls when I don't think you realize what that means. See this?? See all of this, as in you reacting over and over to a guy who hasn't posted in hours and whose last post said he was done?? This is the type of reaction trolls thrive on, so if he and his friends are trolling you then you are giving them one hell of a show.
  • Just because this discussion is currently about something else does not negate your behavior and your current continuing behavior of stomping your feet at me just because I don't agree with you. You are still being disruptive, continually for the last week. Your attitude is a problem.
  • As I said, don't bring suicide here in discussion format, it is a Wiki, not a warzone or a social justice platform. If you feel this strongly about something then like I said step away from the computer. Bringing up suicide is incredibly childish and closed sighted. If its gotten that far then like I said help yourself, establish a new identity for yourself (online), start afresh. You are not the first one to use suicide or depression as reasons or emotional bribery to try and make us bend to your will.
  • Just because you feel you are in the right does not excuse your rule breaking, I have told you three times in the past to stop edit warring and you didn't and you continued to do so many times. I don't care if it's over capitalization or even spaces, you do not ignore the warnings of the team here and you do not then engage in disruptive behavior you have been told three times not to do. Over two discussions this week alone you have done this and then demand respect when you don't respect this Wiki.
  • Your use of language has been appalling, your overall attitude has been appalling and needs adjusted.
  • You have been given a lot more chances than others and instead of being thankful you abuse those chances left right and centre. Edit Warring Alerts are meant to be a singular event then a ban and they are for others but you have been given far too many chances in that regard and you still disrupt the wiki with this drama.
Even now you can't even admit you have done wrong multiple times, just excuses and attacks at how thing are done here. I should never have to repeat myself. Now drop this issue. SunXia (Chat) 03:30,12/20/2015

What he's doing is indeed harassing and attacking me
. I do not know how many times I have to repeat that. And I am sorry for the problems I caused here. I only meant to improve the website. That's why I've pointed out the Soifon pronunciation thing. That's why I've pointed out it should be "Pufairu" and not "Bufairu". And drop the victim blaming nonsense. I'm not going to change my whole online identity because a bunch of backwards trolls have decided I'm their target of the day. All I care about right now is that he gets banned from the entire wikia service (because he solely created the account to attack me, even if you don't see what he's doing as an attack) and that the Pufairu issue is concluded. Then I'll be gone for another 5 months or so, so long as I don't get unnecessary messages here whenever I log into Wikia again. I'm tempering my language, so stop harping on the fact I used the "F-word" 3 weeks ago, because seriously, you're angry at me about using foul language in a manga that has murder and death and has an anime that airs on Adult Swim? And maybe, just maybe, if you weren't such a stickler for rules as inane as "I don't want you to put indents on my messages" then you wouldn't be leaving me such insignificant warnings over edit warring on my own user talk page.

So let's just come to an agreement here. Don't respond to MythdonsRevenge if he comes back. Don't respond to any obvious trolls who are only here to post links to completely different websites. And I'll leave once the Pufairu issue is solved and I won't have to ever come back. I promise.—Ryulong (琉竜) 05:04, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

Someone else comes in and says "what the fuck" and tries to put an end to it. http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong?diff=prev&oldid=451580

Okay I'm about through here. This has gotten utterly ridiculous. You both need to calm down. You both need to stop talking to each other. I don't want to see this crap every time I look at Recent Changes.
  • Ryulong - first of all, your attitude stinks. I'm not gonna sugar-coat it here. I get that you want to help, but you're just very impatient. You really have to understand that the translators we try to contact have lives. I really wish we were getting answers sooner, too. But please, don't bring it up just because you didn't get an answer when you wanted one. I don't want to see you blocked, but I can't defend you if you're gonna keep pestering. And for the record, I'm actually with you on this whole "mythdons"whatever dude. I know that some people just like to follow someone from site to site just to annoy the living hell out of them. I dealt with that crap with OneFiveWings a couple years back. It's not pleasant.
  • Sun - Come on. This is childish. Over Skype and whatnot you keep saying something to the effect of you wanting to try to ignore Ryu, but you're egging him on. You're not helping the issue here. Your entire approach is losing its professionality every time you respond. Just step away from it.
You've both turned a manner of what may or not be a simple typo into much more than it needs to be. Is it so hard to ask you both to just stop? You two are never going to come to an agreement, so quit trying. If this goes on I'll close the entire damn topic, no questions asked, and personally undo any further replies. Keep in mind that this has only ever happened once on a user talk page here. Let's not make it two. As I said a day ago, I am getting a Japanese copy of volume 65 by Wednesday. When I have that in my hands and not on a screen, I will be able to put this issue to bed once and for all. It would be wonderful if you could both just hold your tongues/typing fingers until then. SchiffyTalk to meView my work06:43,12/20/2015 UTC



Here's a good way to seal it: I'm sure if you comb through his cumulative posts on social media, you'll find a reference to the fall/winter weather somewhere. In New York, it gets cold very quickly, while in Florida, it's always warm. If he's complained about cold weather recently, then we'll know he's not in Florida anymore, Toto.

https://archive.is/IhOnR

He was back in New York "now and forever" as of October 2014.

 
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His behavior is actually indicative of severe untreated mental illness. If I had to guess, I'd say major depression. The symptoms include sleeping a lot, and combative behavior, as someone already mentioned (@AnOminous I think). Major Depression can get so bad, it can cause a psychotic break, which would would explain his obsessive editing and fixation on certain things. I think it's safe to say someone is taking care of him, or at least making sure he eats (people with severe depression have been known to simply stop eating and waste away) and does minimal self-care. He needs intervention badly. Nobody should be that fixated on a goddamn online encyclopedia and especially not about video games.
I dunno, he acts like such a pompous douche about everything and even without any diagnosis of anything, I still think he's a massive sperg if his DA is anything to go by.
Nah he's just an autistic no-life.

I think it can be agreed upon generally that he suffers from depression, without any significant doubt, once the evidence is presented: no sane person spends their entire waking life arguing on a wiki unless they're running from some heavy emotions. It's been mentioned that he apparently sleeps 12 hours a day, too. Ryulong's rapidly growing obsession with all things RationalWiki, GamerGate, and his online enemies is likely related to this too, as he's obviously isolated himself from other social contact and has no other outlet; withdrawing from friends and family is another classic sign of depression. Also, he's a neckbeard who lives in his mom's basement and has failed every opportunity given to him in life, a man whose biggest claim to fame is that he engages in edit wars on wikis. Anyone living his life would be depressed, honestly.

However, depression isn't Cohen's biggest issue, and it certainly doesn't absolve him of anything. People with depression don't typically behave the way he does, especially not for eight years straight, unless there's something else going on. In this case, the something we are looking at is that he is, simply, a gigantic douche, and has refused to grow up.

Ryulong has a very lengthy history of behaving in abhorrent ways in group project settings. He is clearly an unrepentant asshole in every instance unless forced to apologize, and even then he comes off as passive-aggressive and insincere. Even when he recognizes that they're inappropriate or may indicate a larger problem, he's shown absolutely no remorse for any of his behaviors or actions. At his core, as a person, he comes off as a self-righteous, childish, highly biased control freak who is loathe to accept any kind of criticism and who plays incredible mental games to make sure he never feels like he's wrong about anything.

Ryulong has demonstrated or even stated on several occasions that he is aware of how his behavior affects others but that he does not care. Though he clearly has issues including and beyond his depression, he makes no effort whatsoever to either deal with them, moderate his behavior based on the feedback he receives, or even engage in empathetic understanding with the people affected by it. As far as I have seen, and in fact as far as carpetsmoker (I think) has also seen and pointed out, Ryulong has never once offered an apology for anything at all on RationalWiki. This is because he is completely unwilling to accept that he is physically capable of being wrong about something.
 
I think it can be agreed upon generally that he suffers from depression, without any significant doubt, once the evidence is presented: no sane person spends their entire waking life arguing on a wiki unless they're running from some heavy emotions. It's been mentioned that he apparently sleeps 12 hours a day, too. Ryulong's rapidly growing obsession with all things RationalWiki, GamerGate, and his online enemies is likely related to this too, as he's obviously isolated himself from other social contact and has no other outlet; withdrawing from friends and family is another classic sign of depression. Also, he's a neckbeard who lives in his mom's basement and has failed every opportunity given to him in life, a man whose biggest claim to fame is that he engages in edit wars on wikis. Anyone living his life would be depressed, honestly.

However, depression isn't Cohen's biggest issue, and it certainly doesn't absolve him of anything. People with depression don't typically behave the way he does, especially not for eight years straight, unless there's something else going on. In this case, the something we are looking at is that he is, simply, a gigantic douche, and has refused to grow up.

Ryulong has a very lengthy history of behaving in abhorrent ways in group project settings. He is clearly an unrepentant asshole in every instance unless forced to apologize, and even then he comes off as passive-aggressive and insincere. Even when he recognizes that they're inappropriate or may indicate a larger problem, he's shown absolutely no remorse for any of his behaviors or actions. At his core, as a person, he comes off as a self-righteous, childish, highly biased control freak who is loathe to accept any kind of criticism and who plays incredible mental games to make sure he never feels like he's wrong about anything.

Ryulong has demonstrated or even stated on several occasions that he is aware of how his behavior affects others but that he does not care. Though he clearly has issues including and beyond his depression, he makes no effort whatsoever to either deal with them, moderate his behavior based on the feedback he receives, or even engage in empathetic understanding with the people affected by it. As far as I have seen, and in fact as far as carpetsmoker (I think) has also seen and pointed out, Ryulong has never once offered an apology for anything at all on RationalWiki. This is because he is completely unwilling to accept that he is physically capable of being wrong about something.

Geth had his own take here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiInActi...w_understand_the_root_of_ryulongs_passionate/

The short version is, Ryulong is utterly convinced he's a crusader against evil, and since he's an agent of justice, nothing he does is wrong since he's on a holy quest, and all means needed to eradicate evil justify the end result. All obstacles are just evil fighting back, and all allies are simply helping him fight evil.

To Ryulong, this is black and white, good vs. evil, with us or against us.
 
Jesus Christ, it's amazing to see him behave on a Wiki where he isn't in cahoots with some Admin. It's pretty pathetic.

"I am pleading with you to take care of this." "Please just listen to me." Fucking A, guy, it's just a Wiki.
 
Don't forget to accuse him of doxing if he ever mentions your kiwifarm activities to anybody ever.
Makes sense given his rather liberal definition of dox or it would, if he (and Dave his patron) wouldn't be also raging hypocrites. For them, doxxing their ideological opponents is totally kosher, helal, OK and so on, but their ideological opponents doing the doxxing (dlagon claiming that) is totally treife, haram and evel. I think, I should make a new Wikia account, the account I have now is too identifiable.

Jesus Christ, it's amazing to see him behave on a Wiki where he isn't in cahoots with some Admin. It's pretty pathetic.
"I am pleading with you to take care of this." "Please just listen to me." Fucking A, guy, it's just a Wiki.
I don't think I would take someone's cock that deep into my mouth just to get someone on some unimportant wikia shitcanned. What a disgrace. Shit, I don't think, I'd do it on The Wiki (a.k.a. Wikipedia). I'd (probably) prefer going out in flames flipping off the whole crowd instead of kissing ass.
 
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https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/3xm3zm/rws_david_gerard_quietly_adds_inappropriate/

Banned_main says he was IP blocked by Gerard and Gerard added "Inappropriate personal information" as one of RW's 'serious block reasons.'

Banned_main provided an archive of his talk page: https://archive.is/ByL5a

It was about pedophile Nicholas "Sarah" Nyberg.

Responding to this:
Here are chatlogs on her website talking about her "lgf", so everyone there knew and we now have direct evidence that she lied about the chatlogs being acquired in a hack. That she removed this script shows that she knew the logs were publicly available as of April 20, 2014. Hence, she has lied in her claim that "illegal SQL injections" were used to gain access to the logs as she knew that the logs were public. Regardless of your protestations that "the chatlogs were never known about until Gamergate began hacking her website", they were indeed publicly available to anyone who could use the wayback machine and the reason I had to use an archive.is to show this is because Sarah deliberately excluded her site from the index after the logs were discovered.--Banned main (talk) 22:43, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/3xm3zm/rws_david_gerard_quietly_adds_inappropriate/

Banned_main says he was IP blocked by Gerard and Gerard added "Inappropriate personal information" as one of RW's 'serious block reasons.'

Banned_main provided an archive of his talk page: https://archive.is/ByL5a

It was about pedophile Nicholas "Sarah" Nyberg.

Incidentally, these are all things where their lies about the very same subject are still publicly available.

So it's apparently okay to lie about Nyberg not being a pedophile, but not to tell the truth about it.
 
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