🐟 Fishtank Sam Hyde's Fishtank.live General - Jet Neptune's Little House of Horrors

[Ravier Xavenblood]

Yeah, I had guessed after all her BPD tricks didn't work to get back into the tank, she would give up and move on to new targets. Whoever that is just looks close enough to sum-sum to question it.

She's going back to the standard BPD playbook of taking advantage of weak minded liberal men who don't know any better.

 

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Jet has partnered with VTuber Kirsche Verstahl as an official commentator for S4. Place your bets on how long it takes for him to try to fly her out to have sex with her!

Season 4 is definitely going to be unique. I did not expect the v-tuber thing to actually happen.
I think this will just be something annoying I would want to avoid. If a streamer is supposed to be a commentator for the small hours there is little chance they can watch a lot of the active hours, so are we just going to see someone perpetually out-of-the-loop commenting and asking chat for lore every night? I don't get it, but it is strange at least.

 

[Lowercase I internet]

If a streamer is supposed to be a commentator for the small hours there is little chance they can watch a lot of the active hours, so are we just going to see someone perpetually out-of-the-loop commenting and asking chat for lore every night? I don't get it, but it is strange at least.

That’s a good point. Even the no-lifers of the thread know you’re gonna miss some stuff once in a while. If the commentator isn’t able to understand the context what good are they? It’s just so strange. Why does there need to be some v-tuber voicing their opinion about whatever is happening in the moment? It might actually be more annoying than anything. The same way people get annoyed at TTS or SFX blocking out dialogue wouldn’t a commentator talking contribute to the same problem?

 

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A person claiming to be a jilted ex-production member was just posting some 'leaks' on /bant/ under HodVNRsZ in thread 22790239

Take it with a grain of salt, of course, but it is interesting. In time we can look back and see if he was full of it. There are more little pieces, mostly about gooning allegations. check the archive if you care. ( this link should become a redirect in time )

Here's link to the actual archive

Spoiler: Posted 'proof'

Credibility claims

I've done some contract work for the show on previous seasons, and due to the decline in quality since S2 I am falling off watching/huffing Jet's farts.
I am answering any question about anything I know for as long as I'm online
AMA.
Like I said, guys above me constantly beat it over our heads not to use these threads. Most of the work I did was remote.
I was in the S3 house a few weeks before it went live, and I have been on the Bloodgames 2 set a few times recently.
A vast majority of the work I did was remote. I can tell you things you probably didn't know about production on previous seasons, and upcoming seasons you may not know about. I think I've been making it pretty clear my exact scope the entire time.

>Most of the work I did was remote.
Leads me to believe you're in IT or possibly art direction.
Getting closer.

I didn't do too much work for Bitchtank, because what I do for the company wasn't really required for Bitchtank.

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A: Pretty much everyone on production tells you to avoid /ftl/ when you work on the show, saying it's a bad influence.

Q: Do they elaborate further?

A: They think it gives people bad ideas for writing challenges, or influences the opinions of those who work on it.
They say it's a bit of a cesspool, too much community in-fighting, FUD, and doxxing.

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A: Soda-man is the biggest retard I have ever had to work with. I am astonished Jet got him on the show, and is keeping him as production. He's ridiculously lazy and unfunny.

Q: Tell me more about sodafag

A: He is white Duanyay. There is a reason they got along so well on the infamous cabin trip.
His sense of humor is mostly just "Haha vril levels! I'm an aryan chad! Guys! Nigger!"
I don't remember where they picked him up, but he was some hyper-autistic fan in chat before they picked him up.
I understand this is a bit ironic for me to say because I am leaking as I type this, but he would be the type to get told something by Jet and then immediately run to discord servers with like 5 clout chasers in them and run his mouth about everything he'd just gotten told.

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Q: Why are the camera descriptions hidden behind the production server named after a layout that closely resembles the season 1 house though?

A: Because they want people to get nostalgic. They want the Season 1 chat whales to come back and give them money.

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Q: Fair, who are the returning faces from the main cast? Any truth to the rumor that it's all fresh faces/friends of Xavier?

A: A lot of fresh faces, and a few craigslist/open casting people. All-Stars want All-Star money, and day rates. It's cheaper to just drop the All-Stars tag and get a lot of newer, cheaper people.
Just from who I remember seeing at the house, Soda-Man, Xavier, the Blacksmith and his wife, Goblin, and that one Mexican looking guy I can't remember the name of are returning.
I'm pretty sure Cage/Scott aren't coming back.

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Q: What is the 3rd Project planned after BG2???

A: From what I am being told right now, more Bloodgames. Not in the way you expect. They want Bloodgames to be its own show.

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Q: So it's just another section of the season 4 house? How will they avoid the problems they had during season 3? Their neighbors already hate them due to them being "keepers of a disorderly house". It would have been smarter to rent something for 2 months.

A: They're getting around it the same way they did for Bitchtank and Bloodgames. They've talked with local police quite a bit lately.

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Q: I think buying more property is beyond stupid even for them.
The S3 house can be split into 3 or 4 houses easily.
I think it is more likely in the S3 house just because they plan on doing bloodgames three weeks after Season 4, so keeping everything close is just a good idea.

A: They lost a ridiculous amount of money with Season 2. Sam/Jet got the idea in their head that it was going to be an easy flip from Nick. They either wanted a chat whale to buy it, or to flip it and sell it to some old lady.
They didn't realize that running the house in the show would make it the most undesirable house ever to potential buyers.
To add onto this, I promise you just wait and watch for Season 4. The hallway cameras you are likely seeing on the list- that's just the spiral staircase going up to the kitchen from the S3 house. There are cameras on it.
The idea I've had described to me, that they're going for is a sort of "Season 1 Remix."
They mentioned Scenes on the investor stream, the scenes are just going to be contestants forced to act out big moments from Season 1.
Final one on this topic.
The viewers are the butt of the joke on S4.
Jet has heard the thousands of "Just make season 1 again" comments, and he is, at your expense. You'll see.

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Q: I've yet to give Jet Neptune a dime and I don't aim to start now. In fact, I've probably cost him money.

A: You know Jet and the show thrives off of people like you, right?
Even if you are hate watching to be like "I can't wait to see how Jet epicly fucks this one up!" and are so obsessed you delude yourself that you personally cost the show money, you are playing right into their hand.
Either way, I just got a Slack notification from the wiggers. I probably just lost my job. See you around. I'll leak more before S4 starts.

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One last post.

Troon isn't banned because it bothers Jet. Someone new has been doing community management work, and he's like the gayest guy ever. It bothers him.

 

[Rache Bartmoss]

check the archive if you care.

Here's link to the actual archive

 

[else_letter]

Here's link to the actual archive

That's better.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

I saw a stream today that had a dedicated, "fridge cam", and I kinda want that for fishtank. Just a cam in the fridge.
So you can see who's eating what, and who's sabotaging.

Would have been great for S3 at 2am. Life is Mizzy.

 

[Polska krowa]

They lost a ridiculous amount of money with Season 2

This is just objectively not true. Fake and gay.

 

[Blackstar]

The leak doesn't really say anything new. We already know the wiggers hate the audience and are using the show to have sex.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

A person claiming to be a jilted ex-production member was just posting some 'leaks' on /bant/ under HodVNRsZ in thread 22790239

This seems fake, and my determination for that draws on my past experience like 15 years ago being a fake leaker myself. Back in 2010, I pretended to be a TNA Wrestling insider and tricked a fansite (which no longer exists) into printing my lies as exclusive inside scoops on the future of that professional wrestling promotion. I went further than this guy and made seriously bold claims that were super duper false, but 80% of my "scoops" were exactly like this guy's.

The evidence I presented was only slightly less believable than what that guy showed, but it was very similar in effect, being something anyone could type up and print out in 5 seconds. Just like this guy, my "scoops" consisted of mostly opinions about various people that are impossible to prove or disprove (but play into the audience's preconceived notions), as well as vague descriptions of plans. Wrestling and Fishtank are very similar in that "plans subject to change" is a very real thing, and a convenient excuse when your fake predictions don't come true. Another thing is presenting basic facts everyone already knows with the veneer of having inside knowledge, like his thing about S2 losing money due to the failed house flip. We all already knew the flip failed, so even with proof S2 made money he can always just claim we misread him or misinterpreted it and of course he was only talking about the failed flip.

A lot of his "predictions" are stuff that have either already been confirmed or are so obviously going to happen it's hardly a prediction. WOW! Sodaman is going to be on BG2??? Who could have seen THAT coming!!! Fan favorites Blacksmith and Blacksmith's Wife will be there too??? IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!! And you're telling me BG2 is going to be mostly not all-stars??? You mean that thing Jet himself explicitly stated on the investor stream. ZOWIE MAMA!!! What a scoop!

The "Sodaman is actually an annoying faggot" one is another one of those classic fake leaks where it's impossible for the audience to disprove because nobody in /bant/ has actually interacted with Sodaman irl, so it can be presented as a True and Honest inside scoop and even if a wigger addresses it (which they should not do as it would only lend credibility to this faker) the fake insider can claim they're just sticking up for their friends but trust me bro Sodaman really is a faggot. C'mon bro trust me bro.

I'm going on record saying I don't believe this guy because his "leaks" line up exactly with the fake leaker blueprint I myself followed 15 years ago. He's fake and gay unless he posts real evidence that not just anyone could fabricate.

There may be more insight I can draw from my past experience but I need to take a shower, maybe I'll come back later and add more to this post.

ETA: The only "real" prediction that leaker made is scenes in S4 being recreations of S1 moments, which if they don't do those he can just claim "they saw my REAL and RAW leaks and changed things to try and own me!" which the fake wrestling leakers all do.

 

[attractive_pneumonia]

Its just bant fantasy wank, the fixation on sodaman is how he blows his entire thing apart because nobody in the fanbase thinks about him except for the subhumans over there. If he was real he would know that Sodaman was a friend of the guy that played the Priest during Bloodgames and that the entire Bloodgames NPC staff were friends of the wiggers or friends of those friends.

 

[Marche]

Gay retard just mad he will never be a ball brother.

 

[Dick Nosed]

Hyperfixation on acne-man is very suspicious. I think some 4chan autist got mad looking at his greasy face and hair.

 

[Marche]

ETA: The only "real" prediction that leaker made is scenes in S4 being recreations of S1 moments, which if they don't do those he can just claim "they saw my REAL and RAW leaks and changed things to try and own me!" which the fake wrestling leakers all do.

And even if they do its such a fucking easy assumption given basically everything put out about S4 including the trailer has been setting it up to be a return to form.

 

[attractive_pneumonia]

I'll just put my thoughts here, I think the "return to form" stuff is a part bait and switch. I doubt Jet and Sam want to get involved in some overly complex storyline like the cult stuff from S2 or the large effort involved in the prank for Season 3, the complexity just doesn't work out in an improv environment and it just goes to pot, but are going to theme it like they did Season 2 to an extent with the 1970s clothing and house decor just to make it interesting to watch, to fill time, and to make each season visually distinct in the episodes later on. Specifically I feel like they're trying to go for a Mad Men / The Office / Office Space / Glengarry Glen Ross / Wolf of Wall St mix-up.

Sam's suit looks more business formal than prior seasons, almost as if he just said to his guy "make the S1 blue suit into a Trump looking suit" replete with pin stripes and his haircut even looks like a salesman CEO type.


I could easily see him adopting a highly exaggerated version of Alec Baldwin's character from Glengarry Glen Ross and the guy from Wolf of Wall Street.

This would dovetail with the food logo contest they ran a few months back to generate "things to sell" for the fish that are interesting for the viewers and aligns with the introduction of stox. The stripe from the S4 season image looks like the blinds from a Luca instagram picture and to me it looks like the kind of window frame you see in commercial real estate like offices or hospitals. I don't believe for a moment the wiggers are going to be diligently labeling every fucking item that comes through the house, putting stickers over a package of hotdogs that someone like Ian will open and cook at 3am without it ever being presented to the camera or visible -- it is just not going to happen.



For those who have never heard of it, the plot for Glengarry Glen Ross is Alex Baldwin's character shows up and tells a group of salesmen that only the top two (in fishtank's case one winner) closers for the month will be retained and the rest will be fired (fishtank elimination) there is a bunch of stuff about the leads lacking money to even be interested in these kind of sales pitches and the tactics used by some of the salesmen are straight up scams just like Wolf of Wall St. It the exact kind of dark comedy that Sam would find interesting.

Ben said he was going to be doing scenes and I don't feel like they're going to be as they were in S3, more like "commercials" with the food contest products where the fish will have to improv their way through a commercial with bizarre products and themes for the commercials as provided by Jet and Ben. Think the way they had S2 fish shill Zipp, the coffee or the product during the finale and what Ted was doing with the Jewish DNA kit before Sam snatched him up and ran him out the door. They've already tested the concept with prior fish in limited ways and they always like returning to concepts they've tested out because they know the fish can make it funny or engaging.

I know there is a handy cam clip of Shinji reading the Japanese on the coffee on Day 1 somewhere and he translates it to "Brack people" when he is kinda shilling the coffee but I just cannot find it. Ted's is probably the exact kind of thing they're aiming for though, he decides to do a skateboard trick as part of his shilling campaign before he gets snatched.

What I expect is they are either leasing or bought commercial real estate, they're going to run a season in some former office building with the fish sleeping in former office rooms converted to bedrooms and Sam and Ben are going to be hassling them about "making sales" and other stupid motivationals speeches with bizarre hooks to them full of corporate word salad shit like "we need to synergize our workflows to maintain an agile scrum diverse mindset!" and forcing the fish to shill food contest products in a room with a few HD cameras QVC style now and then with a PTZ cam overhead for the viewers to watch. This will wear thin after 10-14 days and then the season will consist of Sam kicking down cubical walls with the fish pouring mustard on each others heads for the next 4 weeks while wearing business casual clothing like slacks and collared shirts like every other season.

 

[Polska krowa]

What I expect is they are either renting or bought commercial real estate

I'm hoping (in vain) that they aren't using the full S3 house again, but I just don't see this being the case. I doubt they'd want to do another season in a built-up area, given that it might get them into hot water with the local residents/council, and may lead to the season getting shut down. Perhaps they'd get a unit on an industrial estate, or somewhere similar, away from residences, but would they be able to legally use the property for something like FT? No doubt, some retard would call the landlord/local council/police in an attempt to try and shut it down if not, so it'd be a huge risk.

I like the theme idea you're suggesting, but I think it's more likely they dress the S3 house (or one of the other buildings on the property) up in a way that matches the theme you suggested, as opposed to a whole new location. It's one of those ones where I'd gladly be wrong, though. The S3 house clearly isn't suitable for a larger cast (as we saw in S3), let alone the eight we expect for S4.

 

[attractive_pneumonia]

I think it's more likely they dress the S3 house

The way they have computer workstations in the garage and all these extra people around like the Bloodgames editor and Bloodgames 2 helpers makes me believe they're using it as a permanent Fishtank HQ rather than planning to run another season there. Even if they walled off the Yard and Bar area it doesn't really resolve the issues with the house being long rather than squat like the S1 and S2 houses which forces people on top of each other. S3's problems aren't just that "its big" its how humans flow through the house that is the issue, the Den is a huge distance from the bedroom area and the bar on a different floor from the bedrooms as well. Fish are always going to collect at the island which is the worst area in the house for audio. There is just too many people coming and going around the S3 house doing work for BG2 for me to think they're doing it there. Another season in the S2 house is more likely than the S3 house.

 

[Polska krowa]

The way they have computer workstations in the garage and all these extra people around like the Bloodgames editor and Bloodgames 2 helpers makes me think they're using it as Fishtank HQ rather than planning to run another season there. Even if they walled off the Yard and Bar area it doesn't really resolve the issues with the house being long rather than squat like the S1 and S2 houses which forces people on top of each other. S3's problems aren't just that "its big" its how humans flow through the house that is the issue, the Den is a huge distance from the bedroom area and the bar on a different floor from the bedrooms as well. There is just too many people coming and going around the S3 house doing work for BG2 for me to think they're doing it there. Another season in the S2 house is more likely than the S3 house.

I do hope you're right, and they have an alternate/more suitable location for S4... I just don't see the wiggers doing it. It'd require activation energy and money. I think, personally, they'll go further than you mentioned re: walling off rooms in the S3 house - I could see walling off the Den, Mail Room, and Penthouse as well, and convert the Dining room into a lounge... or alternatively, they'll learn absolutely fucking nothing, and make no major changes (beyond, perhaps, keeping the Yard as the new production HQ).

 

[Miller]

Somehow that voice is more grating than the Loli V-tubers.

Well, she's from Boston.

 

[Marche]

Wonder how many days it will be till the first person leaves.
Will we beat summers record?