School shootings - And the reason why people do it.

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Great Apple Man

Great Apple Man

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From what I've seen on the Internet, lots of school shooters just shoot shit because they 'want to get on the news' and other completely stupid reasons for taking the lives of many.
And the thing is, news articles will pick up on it. They're a huge fucking chunk onto why most do that. Often with headlines like 'X. Here is what we know about them.'
 
I'd say the reason schools are specifically chosen is because they probably had an awful time in school.

Wasn't that the same reason postal workers shot up post offices?
 
The isolating, anonymizing modern world is a petri dish for mental illness, and how the MSM focuses on rampages leads to copycats?
 
Sausaged said:
They also have easy access to firearms to enact revenge fantasies and the governments do fuck-all to limit access to guns, even in cases where the shooter was already known to the police.
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So your response to a shooting by a lone actor is to impose legislation on the masses? To strip people of the ability to defend their life, liberty, and property from an overreaching government? Fuck you.

People also have easy access to cars, knives, GASOLINE, PROPANE, DIESEL, Ammonium nitrate, you name it. What we need to do is take a fucking knee and then get back on with our lives.
 
Sausaged said:
They also have easy access to firearms to enact revenge fantasies and the governments do fuck-all to limit access to guns, even in cases where the shooter was already known to the police.
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Fun fact, before 1993, you didn't even need to pass a NICS check to buy a firearm. Before 1986 you could buy actual machine guns, as long as you paid a tax and registered them (now you have to find and pay upwards of 10k for a transferable one possessed before '86.) Before 1968, you could buy any kind of gun you wanted, from anyone, and have it mailed to you. And yet these school shootings were pretty much unheard of before 1999.

Makes you think. Or should, at least.
 
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I think its curious how when shit sucked in the early 20th century people went and shoot the elites in charge lik politicians and royals, but now that shit sucks again because of the things the elites do people are shooting other people who have nothing to do with anything, not even their actual personal enemies that they have a grudge with either

When was the last time a politician or other elite got killed by a shooter? I think there was a swedefag but it was over 20 years ago
 
Either for revenge, since they probably have traumatic events in that place (like bullying, no one giving attention, etc).
Want nation/international attention.(thanks news)
Or want to vent their frustration with people that can't really defend themselves. (nearly 100% of students do not bring guns to school)
 
- Extreme mental illness and detachment from reality. A sane, well adjusted person doesn't commit mass murder unprompted.
- Infamy and remembrance. They usually feel their lives and existence are pointless and this will be the one way they were relevant to the world, even if it's for a horrible reason. Some seem like this is their biggest reason alone regardless of other factors.
- Desire to feel powerful and have others fear them. They want to have power over their victims.
- Anger, pain, jealousy, vengeance. They're often angry people usually internally grappling with some kind of pain or jealousy. The thought of other people being happy or having better lives than them enrages them and they want to deny others of the opportunities and happiness they feel wrongfully deprived of. Often they're incels and social outcasts, and resentful of it regardless of what they actually say about it. They want others to hurt and be angry and be deprived like they feel.
- Romanticism of the concept and other perpetrators. They hear of others doing it and find reasons to empathize with those people and their motives, often becoming obsessed with every detail of that person and the details of their actions, perceiving them sort of like a celebrity in their minds. Some even tailor their attacks, weapon and clothing choices, and specific dates to mirror others.

(Purely speculation. I don't claim to be an expert on them, or an armchair psychologist)
 
@Sausaged LMFAO your list literally includes shootings by the police and national guard. I'm talking about columbine style mass shootings, not random shootings that just happened to take place in a school where nobody died.

The two most notable U.S. school shootings in the early 1970s were the Jackson State killings in May 1970, where police opened fire on the campus of Jackson State University and the Kent State shootings also in May 1970 where the National Guard opened fire on the campus of Kent State University.
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The current wave of mass shootings have to be related to mental illness and mental issues in general. Was it not easier to access guns in the decades before mass shootings started occurring so much? I mean if the wrong people having the ability to purchase firearms was the issue why hasn't this always been an issue? Triggers don't pull themselves.
 
Breadbassket said:
The current wave of mass shootings have to be related to mental illness and mental issues in general. Was it not easier to access guns in the decades before mass shootings started occurring so much? I mean if the wrong people having the ability to purchase firearms was the issue why hasn't this always been an issue? Triggers don't pull themselves.
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It has to do with mentally ill people hearing news of other mass shootings. For example, the Virginia Tech shooter was obsessed with Columbine, as was Randy Stair. Cho also sent an entire package of videos and writings to the media, proving beyond a doubt that media coverage was one of his goals. There is example after example of this.
 
Make Anime Illegal said:
It has to do with mentally ill people hearing news of other mass shootings. For example, the Virginia Tech shooter was obsessed with Columbine, as was Randy Stair. Cho also sent an entire package of videos and writings to the media, proving beyond a doubt that media coverage was one of his goals. There is example after example of this.
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The sad part is that politicians will keep looking at the school shooting situation the wrong way and won't address this. Its easier to ban guns then to address the mental health crisis in the USA. Honestly you need to really limit information spread and the approach on how news networks treat these mass shootings but that may become some 1st Amendment issue.
 
Sausaged said:
You can't discredit an entire list with a cherry-picked excerpt that so happens to not fit your idea of "school shooting." It has many examples of youths bringing in firearms to places of learning that resulted in deaths and injuries before and during the 90s. Current-year proliferation of school shootings (by the media and perpetrators alike) does not exist in a vacuum, or without any precedent. Lax gun laws enables young people to have access to lethal firearms. So as long as this latitude exists there will always be school shootings in some capacity. Mental health is just a red herring in this particular problem.
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Yes I can discredit your list because you are comparing apples to oranges. You are comparing random shootings, that often involve only adults and often result in no deaths, to mass killings of schoolchildren like columbine. You're doing this to try to argue that the same types of things happened before 1999, but your logic fails. If you insist on your list, then compare it to a similar list for shootings since 2000.
 
The first time I saw this on 4chan out of the blue made me realize the paradoxical way on how media and politicians/entertainers in Hollywood treat these kinds of situations:

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They only care about these glorified school shootings at the expense of using it to prop their own agendas on the backs of the victims of school children, as well as the parents.
 
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