School shootings - And the reason why people do it.

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They only care about these glorified school shootings at the expense of using it to prop their own agendas on the backs of the victims of school children, as well as the parents.
During 2001–2010, 2344 children <15 years were killed in crashes involving at least 1 alcohol-impaired driver. That's 234 per year. And unlike firearms, people do not use alcohol to protect themselves or others. There is literally no utility in the modern day for alcoholic beverages when we have modern water purification. So until these people start supporting alcohol prohibition, they can kill themselves.
 
Yes in essence they are the same thing: Youths with easy access to firearms bring them to schools and it results in fatalities.
Your list includes incidents where the shooters were adults, the police, and the national guard. And incidents in which there were no fatalities. Pay attention.

Drinking isn't made to kill, even if its consumption can lead to death.
This is one of the dumbest takes I hear from you idiots. Think about it. If I have to shoot someone and they survive, was my self defense a failure? If I draw a handgun and it deters someone from attacking me, and I don't shoot them, according to your logic, I'm using the gun wrong. It's retarded.
 
It simply includes them. They do not exhaust the list nor do they remove the fact that youths with firearms have gone to school and shot at their peers all throughout America's history.
The point is, these incidents were so rare as to be unheard of back when gun laws were significantly more lax. You are deliberately misrepresenting history by providing a list that is 90+% not examples of what we're talking about.
Not sure if drunk or mental gymnastics.
You're just retarded. Firearms are designed to be used in self defense. If you shoot someone attacking you, and it stops them, but they don't die, you've defended yourself. If you shoot someone attacking you, but it doesn't stop them in time, but they die of blood loss a minute after they kill you, your self defense was a failure. Whether someone dies or not is irrelevant to the design if the firearm.
 
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Not sure if drunk or mental gymnastics.
Your stupid logic was actually used by Arthur Kellerman in one of his bullshit "studies." What he did was, compare the probability of a home invader being killed by gunshot, with the probability of a homeowner being killed by a gunshot, in home invasion incidents. Then he concluded that owning a firearm increases your chances of being killed in a home invasion. That logic is fucking stupid, because the point is not to kill the home invader, it is to prevent you or your loved ones from being killed.
 
Unfortunately, I’ve learned that certain parts of the farms are not the place to have nuanced conversations about this. But what I will say is that, if you want to know what can be done, take a look at the thread in A&H about the Buffalo supermarket shooting. (It’s easy to find, as it happened just last week.)

That thread holds archives of both the shooter’s manifesto and video of his crime. In his manifesto, the shooter discusses his radicalization by /pol/ and provides a detailed guide for other shooters on how to obtain and modify equipment to ensure both maximum carnage as well as maximum internet fame.

As a presumably rational person reading this, you might be curious about the reaction of people on the thread. Were they outraged? Well, it appeared to me that a great majority of the posters in there seemed preoccupied with finding the whole video so that they could watch the slaughter of grandmothers because they were black. I don’t see how the slaughter of wetback schoolchildren is much different, to be honest.

We’ve lost our humanity. Mass shootings are a symptom of that disease. We have people here sperging over numbers as if they didn’t involve real people and expressing fear that guns are going to be taken away as if there isn’t a place in the world that isn’t saturated with them. The internet has turned this all into a game. The shooters battle for body count, send gleeful messages to their Discord friends delighting in their ability to murder huge amounts of people quickly, both because they live in a society that coddles them and allows them ready and easy access to dangerous weaponry. Both are true, and to pretend that mental illness and gun access are separate issues is disingenuous at best.

I don’t really believe this stuff happens as a result of mental illness in and of itself, but as a symptom of it. These shooters are undoubtedly disturbed, but they are also mired in a culture in which nothing is taken seriously until it’s too late, and in which human beings are depersonalized. A person who is already disturbed spends hours a day shooting at pixels on an enormous screen in a dark room, talking to no one — but yet, many would have us believe these things aren’t related.

The reason why the shooter went to live with his grandmother, whom he shot in the face, had to do with his ability to access wifi. I’ll leave the significance of that to you to figure out.

I’m not here to debate. Give me trash cans or top hats or puzzle pieces or whatever you want. I’m just tired.
 
There are a lot of factors at play but I would say the allure of Herostratus is the primary driver along with the 24-7 media coverage and glorification of these people. Eric and Dylan pretty much set the stage for most future school shooters, having become the most famous and well known of them.
 
School shootings are for edgy faggots who can’t go after real targets so just like their fathers, or what their absent fathers would’ve probably done, they take it out on the kids.
 
There are a lot of factors at play but I would say the allure of Herostratus is the primary driver along with the 24-7 media coverage and glorification of these people. Eric and Dylan pretty much set the stage for most future school shooters, having become the most famous and well known of them.
If only Damnatio memoriae was still a common practice in this day and age for these things.
 
The current wave of mass shootings have to be related to mental illness and mental issues in general.
Seems like the recent wave of shootings - or at least school shootings - started with Columbine, and really took off after 9/11.
 
Everyone is on meds these days… and having panic attacks, villifying the opposing political party, and trying desperately to find their tribe and fit in. School shootings isn’t the first place I would have looked, but something about our younger generation of society is badly broken.
 
The sad part is that politicians will keep looking at the school shooting situation the wrong way and won't address this. Its easier to ban guns then to address the mental health crisis in the USA. Honestly you need to really limit information spread and the approach on how news networks treat these mass shootings but that may become some 1st Amendment issue.
Btw, one guy on City-Data forums mentioned the stats of schools shootings compared to other countries http://www.city-data.com/forum/63503286-post714.html

And every one of those countries implemented strong gun laws. England had one school shooting, Dunblane. None since then. You know when that happened? In 1996. Since 2009 (13 years ago!) the USA has had 288 school shootings.

Canada? 2
Germany?2
Japan? 0
UK? 0

Think that maybe gun control works?

Yeah, it does. Facts matter. By the way, I've hunted in 3 out of the four countries since then. No problems using guns in a regulated manner.
 
Depends on the shooting really.

The rare mass shooting one we had recently, distant parents who likely have to work 60 hours a week just to survive, easy access to guns, maybe mental health (I think this current year mental health thing is a load of BS, not that the problems aren't real its the offloading shit behavior onto the problems), people looking for attention, garbage like this... basically a shit storm of people who have all of the above.
The vast majority of school shootings are gang bangers, but we never talk about those because it's ok.

Really think it boils down to people's poor reaction to finding out they aren't special and honestly just a bit more than below average.
 
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