Science Science Reveals Why Troons In Restrooms Is Not A Good Idea - Not Even Titty Skittlez & Diuretics Can Stop Testosterone

New Research Finds 75% of Trans Women Can't Suppress Testosterone, Even With Hormone Therapy
A full three out of four transwomen who undergo hormone therapy to “transition” into being female never reach normal female hormone levels, according to a new scientific study.

I know. It's almost like it was designed to be that way or something.

Here’s how it works, in a nutshell. Average adult males have testosterone levels ranging anywhere between 270-1,070 nanograms per deciliter (ng/dL). Women’s testosterone levels, on the other hand, average about 15-70 ng/dL – obviously, a much lower level.

When a biological male decides he feels like a woman and chooses to medically force his physical body into accepting this delusion, he starts hormone therapy. To achieve this, he goes on a regimen of spironolactone and estradiol, drugs meant to lower his naturally high testosterone levels to the much lower female level.

But according to a new medical study of nearly 100 transgender “women,” only about one in four were able to reach a testosterone level low enough to match the average natural-born female’s."

The study found that even after undergoing hormone therapy for three and a half years, “Only one quarter of transgender women who received spironolactone for testosterone suppression achieved testosterone levels considered within the usual female range, according to results of a new single-center, cross-sectional study.”

The highest suppression quartile achieved a mean testosterone level of 27 ng/dL. The second highest quartile did not achieve testosterone levels in the female range, but remained below the male range almost all the time. The least suppressed quartile was unable to achieve any significant testosterone suppression.

Participants with normal BMI showed the steepest decline in testosterone over the 9 months (average time to reach steady state) but did not reach the female range overall.

Why?

Maybe because they aren’t women.

But of course, we aren’t allowed to ask whether playing God with people’s hormones like an overworked soccer mom trying to make a casserole out of whatever she’s got lying about in her pantry might have something to do with the fact that 45 percent of transgender patients who undergo hormone therapy attempt suicide.

It's also the fact that women only see a significant amount of testosterone in the bloodstream from the adrenal androgens, not very much from the ovaries.
Bad news for gender dysphorics, even worse for troons still trying to force themselves into the women's restroom.

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[Rio]

While the article posted above is biased and coming from a blog, the original article comes from a peer reviewed journal. Here's the press release:



Source: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180220143424.htm

Basically, it's not known what that implies or if all trans women really need to be at cis woman hormone levels. However, knowing this information could allow researchers to look further in to the physiological differences between individuals which cause some to respond better to hormone therapy, in turn allowing for better hormone treatments in the future.

There is nothing about bathrooms in it at all.

Thanks for the update. Seems like a pretty fair study, despite the small sample size. Hopefully it'll lead to further research.

 

[heathercho]

Well, they won't listen. It doesn't matter to nonpassing ones because their perverts and some passing ones are convinced they're true and honest women regardless.

People won't listen to science, history or females, they will continue to push for what they want regardless.

I saw a tranny the other day who was making a genuine effort to pass, but it's always so obvious, especially around the eyes. Everytime troons push to trample on females, it makes me less enthusiastic about pretending not to notice small things like this in "genuine" trannies.

 

[WW 635]

Thanks for the update. Seems like a pretty fair study, despite the small sample size. Hopefully it'll lead to further research.

It sounds like a pilot, since they only reviewed already acquired data. It will probably be used for a larger grant to look at additional factors. From the sounds of it, the researchers do plan to look further into the reasons some are not responding to the medications.

 

[polonium]

I saw a tranny the other day who was making a genuine effort to pass, but it's always so obvious, especially around the eyes. Everytime troons push to trample on females, it makes me less enthusiastic about pretending not to notice small things like this in "genuine" trannies.

I'll be polite if I see a tranny who isn't making a spectacle of themselves, that's the decent thing to do, but they aren't women.

 

[AnOminous]

Basically, it's not known what that implies or if all trans women really need to be at cis woman hormone levels. However, knowing this information could allow researchers to look further in to the physiological differences between individuals which cause some to respond better to hormone therapy, in turn allowing for better hormone treatments in the future.

It may be that people who are actually trans respond better to HRT because there actually is some physiological difference they have, whereas transtrending troons don't because they aren't. At least, it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[sperginity]

I'm honestly just annoyed now at seeing tiny adolescent girl titties suspended on huge broad male chests when I go to the city (I live near a high troon population city), its weird looking, none of them wear bras. And no high heels if you're over 5'11, fucking shit. HRT does something but it doesn't work miracles.

This study explains why jazz jennings is getting man brow IMO

 

[Maggots on a Train]

Confirms what we already knew, fatasses stay male 5ever, despite having a natural excess of estrogen-producing tissues.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

It may be that people who are actually trans respond better to HRT because there actually is some physiological difference they have, whereas transtrending troons don't because they aren't. At least, it wouldn't surprise me.

That's a good hypothesis, and it would jive with what is more obvious like troons being more masculine than normies, yet still trying to push the, "I'm a cute girl, tee-hee" thing.

 

[Incredible Crisis]

That's a good hypothesis, and it would jive with what is more obvious like troons being more masculine than normies, yet still trying to push the, "I'm a cute girl, tee-hee" thing.

That would support the "being trans is something biologically innate" hypothesis, versus the "you are the gender you identify as" philosophy pushed by trenders. If the former holds water, it's likely due to someone being more on the intersex lines. I would say in general that like any drug, the body responds to HRT in different ways that are not predictable.

But discussing any of this is "medicalizing" as troons would say, and I'm a horrible gatekeeper for even humbling the thought.

 

[aqua sama]

why are they wasting money on these kind of reasearches?
troons are mentally ill, period. They should be treated as such.

 

[Without A Gout]

why are they wasting money on these kind of reasearches?
troons are mentally ill, period. They should be treated as such.

Facts are evil and don't care about muh feels, ya know?

 

[Cryin RN]

why are they wasting money on these kind of reasearches?
troons are mentally ill, period. They should be treated as such.

It's useful to have science backing up everyone's suspicion that the "teehee so weak can't open pickle jar!" claims are total, absolute bullshit. It's also very relevant to trannies trying to compete against cis women for easy wins in sports. Knowing that 75% of trans women have T levels impossible for real ladies should make sports governing bodies VERY wary (but it won't )

 

[vertexwindi]

It may be that people who are actually trans respond better to HRT because there actually is some physiological difference they have, whereas transtrending troons don't because they aren't. At least, it wouldn't surprise me.

Looking at the gay/vagina-worshipping guys on this website, say Billy Labelle or John Wu, it would explain an awful lot about them.

You've cracked the DaTranny Code.

 

[Chiang Kai-shek]

If you bring up chromosomes they like to counterattack with the tiny percentage of the population that has genetic intersex conditions. As if you are going to bump into many of them anyway. The truth is the vast amount of trannies today are transtrending troons. And men who aren't even attempting medical transitioning are saying they want to use the women's bathroom because they identify as female. You've got big burly fuckers with full beards saying they are women and trying to invade our spaces. And everyone's too scared to say anything because they don't want to be labeled transphobic. They are literally putting the safety of women and children below that of autogynephile perverts and attention whores who think makeup and a wig makes them true and honest women.

If you told me 20 years ago that the future was going to be like this I'd laugh. I never would have believed it.

Aren’t most cases of intersex people just people with genetic disorders like Klinefelter’s syndrome? Things that aren’t the norm? I don’t know why someone would consider that a counter example.

 

[AnOminous]

why are they wasting money on these kind of reasearches?
troons are mentally ill, period. They should be treated as such.

Because to treat mental illness, you need to research it.