Off-Topic "Scientific" Studies regarding Transpeople

Unfortunately a lot of these "researchers" seem to hate trans people and are trying to disprove their existence. Trans rights are human rights and research to the contrary must have some kind of critical flaw.
I will repeatedly nitpick these studies to try and undermine the results, continually moving goalposts.
 
a lot of these "researchers" seem to hate trans people
are trying to disprove their existence.

>Boy, I sure do hate Mexicans.
>also Mexicans are a myth, people who talk about Mexicans just believe in fairy tales. I must dedicate myself to dispelling the myth of Mexicans.

its one or the other.

I think what you ACTUALLY mean is they think transsexualism isn't normal, and is a mental illness which DOES exist, and feeding the delusion is bad.

NOT that they dont exist, or worse, saying "denying their right to existence" which always makes this visual in my head

IF ONLY it were that easy.
 
its one or the other.

I think what you ACTUALLY mean is they think transsexualism isn't normal, and is a mental illness which DOES exist, and feeding the delusion is bad.

NOT that they dont exist, or worse, saying "denying their right to existence" which always makes this visual in my head

Imagine if we were talking about wanting to cure or eradicate mental illnesses like anorexia/bulimia, or even physical sicknesses like smallpox or cancer.

And then we get a whole bunch of lunatics screaming that we want to genocide people who suffer from those ailments, or that we want them to disappear into the ether or something.
 
Imagine if we were talking about wanting to cure or eradicate mental illnesses like anorexia/bulimia, or even physical sicknesses like smallpox or cancer.

And then we get a whole bunch of lunatics screaming that we want to genocide people who suffer from those ailments, or that we want them to disappear into the ether or something.
Yeah stopping people from becoming troons, eradicates troons in the long term. But that's not the same as eradicating troons as in people who already are troons.
Teaching basic rhetorical skills in school would no doubt lower transition numbers.
I swear 90% of transgender discourse is people tripping over their own 9th grade smart alec rethorical tricks and falling straight into the dickchipper.

Also: Gastric bypasses for anorexics when?
 
>Boy, I sure do hate Mexicans.
>also Mexicans are a myth, people who talk about Mexicans just believe in fairy tales. I must dedicate myself to dispelling the myth of Mexicans.

its one or the other.

I think what you ACTUALLY mean is they think transsexualism isn't normal, and is a mental illness which DOES exist, and feeding the delusion is bad.

NOT that they dont exist, or worse, saying "denying their right to existence" which always makes this visual in my head

IF ONLY it were that easy.
and I said I'm gonna kill the first fucking green witch I see but they don't exist but if I found one green witch I'd kill it without any... without any remorse or hesitation they could get you could they really do anything about that i don't know because you're saying you're saying they don't exist but if they did you would kill them

Imagine if we were talking about wanting to cure or eradicate mental illnesses like anorexia/bulimia, or even physical sicknesses like smallpox or cancer.

And then we get a whole bunch of lunatics screaming that we want to genocide people who suffer from those ailments, or that we want them to disappear into the ether or something.
The Deaf community is like that wrt cochlear implants and other cures
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Unfortunately a lot of these "researchers" seem to hate trans people and are trying to disprove their existence. Trans rights are human rights and research to the contrary must have some kind of critical flaw.
I will repeatedly nitpick these studies to try and undermine the results, continually moving goalposts.
Is this sarcasm? I can't tell.
 
Jesse Singal claims to have uncovered evidence that WPATH deliberately manipulated a systemic review of the scientific literature in order to obtain a more favorable result concerning trans healthcare. This may have some interesting repercussions in the detransitioner lawsuits.

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New from me in @TheEconomist: Emails released during discovery in a youth gender medicine case demonstrate that the World Professional Association for Transgender Health interfered w/the systematic reviews it commissioned from Johns Hopkins University.

The emails are damning, showing that for many months WPATH sought to control the output of the JHU team it paid $200k to examine questions pertaining to transgender healthcare as the Standards of Care 8 was developed.

The quotes couldn’t be more explicit: “Hopkins as an academic institution, and I as a faculty member therein, will not sign something that limits academic freedom in this manner,” said Karen Robinson, head of the JHU effort, at one point. She consistently pushed back.

WPATH appeared to relent and signed a contract that gave it review/feedback rights, but no real power to interfere. After Robinson’s team submitted two manuscripts to WPATH in July 2020, however, WPATH responded that there were many “concerns” about the papers.

WPATH claimed JHU hadn’t followed a policy that… WPATH had just created. As outlined in this flowchart, JHU would first submit its study design *and results*, and then a WPATH team would vote on whether to allow the team to proceed with completing and writing the study.

This completely undermines the purpose and integrity of SRs. Robinson pushed back (again), noting that the contract did not give WPATH this power and that it violated important principles of academic freedom and independence. But there’s some evidence she relented:

Another discovery document includes a checklist indicating a WPATH team member was involved “in the design, drafting… and final approval of” the one paper Robinson and her team published after the new policy went into effect. The paper itself claims the opposite.

All this suggests a corrupted evidence-gathering process. While there are many gaps in the story and no one is talking — my article relies almost entirely on the documents — it’s indisputable WPATH sought to interfere with the systematic reviews.

Perhaps most damning: a fall 2020 WPATH email coauthored by then-incoming president Walter Bouman said research must be “thoroughly scrutinised and reviewed to ensure that publication does not negatively affect the provision of transgender health care in the broadest sense.”

This is an explicit call to suppress negative results, and it makes it hard to trust *any* of WPATH’s evidentiary claims. Once you’ve openly admitted you’re seeking a particular outcome and won’t publish research that deviates from that outcome, why should anyone trust you?

That’s it. It’s likely more will come out about all of this soon, but please read my article in the meantime:



I'd post the Economist article itself, but it is paywalled.
 
I'd post the Economist article itself, but it is paywalled.
I couldn’t find the full text on archive sites but did find this on Reddit. Hopefully it will be archived soon.
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In april hilary cass, a British paediatrician, published her review of gender-identity services for children and young people, commissioned by nhsEngland. It cast doubt on the evidence base for youth gender medicine. This prompted the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (wpath), the leading professional organisation for the doctors and practitioners who provide services to trans people, to release a blistering rejoinder. wpath said that its own guidelines were sturdier, in part because they were “based on far more systematic reviews”.

Systematic reviews should evaluate the evidence for a given medical question in a careful, rigorous manner. Such efforts are particularly important at the moment, given the feverish state of the American debate on youth gender medicine, which is soon to culminate in a Supreme Court case challenging a ban in Tennessee. The case turns, in part, on questions of evidence and expert authority.

Court documents recently released as part of the discovery process in a case involving youth gender medicine in Alabama reveal that wpath’s claim was built on shaky foundations. The documents show that the organisation’s leaders interfered with the production of systematic reviews that it had commissioned from the Johns Hopkins University Evidence-Based Practice Centre (epc) in 2018. From early on in the contract negotiations, wpath expressed a desire to control the results of the Hopkins team’s work. In December 2017, for example, Donna Kelly, an executive director at wpath, told Karen Robinson, the epc’s director, that the wpath board felt the epc researchers “cannot publish their findings independently”. A couple of weeks later, Ms Kelly emphasised that, “the [wpath] board wants it to be clear that the data cannot be used without wpath approval”. Ms Robinson saw this as an attempt to exert undue influence over what was supposed to be an independent process. John Ioannidis of Stanford University, who co-authored guidelines for systematic reviews, says that if sponsors interfere or are allowed to veto results, this can lead to either biased summaries or suppression of unfavourable evidence. Ms Robinson sought to avoid such an outcome. “In general, my understanding is that the university will not sign off on a contract that allows a sponsor to stop an academic publication,” she wrote to Ms Kelly. Months later, with the issue still apparently unresolved, Ms Robinson adopted a sterner tone. She noted in an email in March 2018 that, “Hopkins as an academic institution, and I as a faculty member therein, will not sign something that limits academic freedom in this manner,” nor “language that goes against current standards in systematic reviews and in guideline development”.

Eventually wpath relented, and in May 2018 Ms Robinson signed a contract granting wpath power to review and offer feedback on her team’s work, but not to meddle in any substantive way. After wpath leaders saw two manuscripts submitted for review in July 2020, however, the parties’ disagreements flared up again. In August the wpath executive committee wrote to Ms Robinson that wpath had “many concerns” about these papers, and that it was implementing a new policy in which wpath would have authority to influence the epc team’s output—including the power to nip papers in the bud on the basis of their conclusions.

Ms Robinson protested that the new policy did not reflect the contract she had signed and violated basic principles of unfettered scientific inquiry she had emphasised repeatedly in her dealings with wpath. The Hopkins team published only one paper after wpath implemented its new policy: a 2021 meta-analysis on the effects of hormone therapy on transgender people. Among the recently released court documents is a wpath checklist confirming that an individual from wpathwas involved “in the design, drafting of the article and final approval of [that] article”. (The article itself explicitly claims the opposite.) Now, more than six years after signing the agreement, the epc team does not appear to have published anything else, despite having provided wpath with the material for six systematic reviews, according to the documents.

No one at wpath or Johns Hopkins has responded to multiple inquiries, so there are still gaps in this timeline. But an email in October 2020 from wpath figures, including its incoming president at the time, Walter Bouman, to the working group on guidelines, made clear what sort of science wpath did (and did not) want published. Research must be “thoroughly scrutinised and reviewed to ensure that publication does not negatively affect the provision of transgender health care in the broadest sense,” it stated. Mr Bouman and one other coauthor of that email have been named to a World Health Organisation advisory board tasked with developing best practices for transgender medicine.

Another document recently unsealed shows that Rachel Levine, a transwoman who is assistant secretary for health, succeeded in pressing wpath to remove minimum ages for the treatment of children from its 2022 standards of care. Dr Levine’s office has not commented. Questions remain unanswered, but none of this helps wpath’s claim to be an organisation that bases its recommendations on science
 
WTF is this channel you've found? It's got other gems too.

Who knew, guys? Turns out women were the hunters and have better endurance all along. That's why all the endurance marathon winners are male:

Funnily enough this whole "women are better at hunting than men, and hunters were mostly women"-thing is something terfs actually believe
 
Yeah no shit. Do you remember when the tobacco companies commisioned a bunch of studies that just happened to all show how safe tobacco was?

In other news, a study commisioned by a group of foxes shows it's perfectly safe to allow them to sleep in hen houses once you rule out the 99% of cases where the hens were all eaten.
 
Yeah no shit. Do you remember when the tobacco companies commisioned a bunch of studies that just happened to all show how safe tobacco was?

In other news, a study commisioned by a group of foxes shows it's perfectly safe to allow them to sleep in hen houses once you rule out the 99% of cases where the hens were all eaten.
Those 99%-studies had hens which were hen shaped, chud. everybody likes to eat hen shaped hens, esp. when deep fried. in our studies we controlled with fox shaped hens and nothing happened in 100% of cases. foxes aren't the predators bigots make them out to be.
 
Those 99%-studies had hens which were hen shaped, chud. everybody likes to eat hen shaped hens, esp. when deep fried. in our studies we controlled with fox shaped hens and nothing happened in 100% of cases. foxes aren't the predators bigots make them out to be.
You literally copied this from xitter and replaced trannies with foxes didn't you?
 
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