Careercow Scott Raymond Adams / @ScottAdamsSays / “Real Coffee With Scott Adams” - The Washed Up Cartoonist Behind “Dilbert”, Creator of “The Dilberito”, Professional Bullying Victim, Political Grifter, Terminally Online Narcissistic Boomer, Divorced Twice, Is (Not) Glad His Stepson Overdosed. This is Not a Racial Politics Debate Thread

[JKLawling]

Separating 'art' from the 'artist' is quite impossible as without artist you have no art to separate and I think this is where most people seem to get it wrong. The 'art' is just a thing. It doesn't do anything aside from what said artist does or has done or indeed what the reader/viewer imagines as a result.

Remember if you will the morons who wanted to rebind Harry Potter books as if that somehow meant it wasn't written by the person who wrote it. It's obviously a meaningless exercise which I hope should describe what I've said visually as well as philosophically. It can't be done physically or metaphorically.

To elaborate slightly the art is a mere thing a person has made for whatever reason surely only they can ever truly know if only because no one else will ever actually care to know. When you enjoy it as it then exists regardless of the artist or any intention they might've been in possession of it is not the 'art' being separated from the 'artist' but simply you are a different person entirely separate from the artist to begin with it never being any kind of act requiring effort.

Why or indeed what is this convoluted act being described surrounding 'art' as a whole is very mysterious with which I will respond with an equally mysterious seemingly out of place statement that indeed finds no objectively nor immediately obvious place in this line of thought or questioning made independently of myself via youtube video:

 

[Matajudios]

americans worship niggers. the nigger is basically a god in america. it's basically illegal to speak badly of the nigger in america, lest you face the consequence of your livelihood being taken away from you.

I mean you can't make this up, a kike like Polanski rapes a 13 yo and still gets awards and money everywhere, while the eternal show trial goes on, I mean they totally would hold him accountable, right....
Today an old liberal says something obvious, basically what all the rich liberals in their gated suburbs without a single black secretly think, but never speak out loud, and of course he gets cancelled and its the end of the world.

Because he's a traitor. Because no one wants to hear the truth. It's ugly.

 

[zionlion1488]

The electric and gas trucks around Detroit have a nice little sticker on them reminding 'everyone' that assaulting a utility worker is a specific felony.

Just like buses and subway have signs saying that it's a minimum 7 year sentence for assaulting employees in NYC. Doesn't stop the nogs, many of them literally can't read.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

Wait, so this dude got cancelled over saying "white people need to be further away from the groups of people that actively dislike them for being white"?

I was sure he'd said the nigger word or something.

 

[FarmVille]

white people don’t want to be around this guy either

 

[William Tyndale]

I would hope he just starts a based as fuck web comic now that he doesn't have to hold back.

I actually enjoyed reading Dilbert for a while before getting bored when it started to feel like it got too bland.

He's definetly has talent, but feels like he's been cucking to political correctness for a while and it seems like he was really getting tired of it for the last couple of years.

I hope he goes full-on George Lincoln Rockwell and leads the next great American revival.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Separating 'art' from the 'artist' is quite impossible as without artist you have no art to separate and I think this is where most people seem to get it wrong. The 'art' is just a thing. It doesn't do anything aside from what said artist does or has done or indeed what the reader/viewer imagines as a result.

I always take this to be - I can enjoy an artist's art and even support the artist for that art without feeling bad that the artist did something stupid or whatever. You can enjoy Chinatown without having to think that raping 13 year olds is a top-notch thing to do.

Cancel culture itself is built on the idea that the two are inseparable; and maybe for GOD HIMSELF they are, but there's no practical way to vet everything so the question is where do you draw the line?

To be fair, the cancellers are somewhat right in that the WHOLE IDEA behind art is that it changes you somehow, but they obviously take it way too far and only in line with their already existing biases. (I've often thought that the cancelling is hardest for "betrayal" like Rowlings because it is so TEMPTING to them and they see how she could drag them down - nobody cares to cancel Hitler's art because everyone knows looking at his paintings isn't going to make you go full Nazi, hell even reading Mine Comfy Chair probably won't). But it's all just performative signaling when you ever MENTION it.

 

[AskeDead]

Wait, so this dude got cancelled over saying "white people need to be further away from the groups of people that actively dislike them for being white"?

I was sure he'd said the nigger word or something.

nope. all you have to do is hint at the slightest bit of white preservation and it's over.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Warning Autism Ahead!

I listened to the first 30 minutes of Scott's Real Coffee Talk and man what a giant bore this guy is. To hell with "White Noise" machines or ASMR Scott's videos should be able to make a high schooler hooked on Adderall fall asleep.

But I do feel vindicated concerning the cancelation, Scott is honest he doesn't give a damn that Dilbert will be taken off all the newspapers. The man is 65 years old, held a popular franchise for over 30 years and has no children (are your stepkids still stepkids post divorce?). By my best guess Scott has to have at least $20 Million in the bank he probably makes more money off the interest than he did via syndication and he seems like a no frills guy so he's not going piss away his savings.

There's probably some grand satisfaction in this for him. He must have spent years trying to please publishers and corporate suits and he's effectively told them to fuck off. It's the most victorious celeb cancelation I can imagine, none of the manic anger like Kanye's or attempts to apologize like Roseanne.

When all is said and done he won in my book. It's a common dream for people to watch it all burn down. Scott did it on his own volition and his tweets prior to all this confirm it was premeditated.

Ranch or Cool Ranch?

 

[FarmVille]

nope. all you have to do is hint at the slightest bit of white preservation and it's over.

a guy who had a 40+ page thread on a lolcow forum did not suddenly have his career yanked from him for daring to hint a suggestion of white preservation. He was a uncharismatic, obnoxious weirdo many were chomping at the bit to disassociate with and they are taking the opportunity.

racism is the last desperate cope of soy boy losers and aging divorcees. If you need it, it’s your own fault.

 

[AskeDead]

a guy who had a 40+ page thread on a lolcow forum did not suddenly have his career yanked from him for daring to hint a suggestion of white preservation. He was a uncharismatic, obnoxious weirdo many were chomping at the bit to disassociate with and they are taking the opportunity.

racism is the last desperate cope of soy boy losers and aging divorcees. If you need it, it’s your own fault.

whoa, 40 whole pages? despite the fact he's been a public figure for 30+ years? that's nuts, chaim!!

 

[FarmVille]

In a world full of embarrassing ass backwards boomers, how many of them rise to the status of lolcow? don’t try and belittle the achievement.

 

[AskeDead]

i'm not, i'm just saying. i don't think it's coincidental that he's been associated with the right wing for at least 7 years, but he says what every white person with at least a 3 digit iq is thinking and suddenly his career is dead.

 

[JKLawling]

I always take this to be - I can enjoy an artist's art and even support the artist for that art without feeling bad that the artist did something stupid or whatever. You can enjoy Chinatown without having to think that raping 13 year olds is a top-notch thing to do.

I don't know what Chinatown is but aside from that I never disagreed with any of that per se but 'cancel culture' is very silly and meaningless drivel the closest possible analogue to the real world being underworld slang that's purposefully not understandable to regular eavesdroppers talking about very real skullduggery.

The artist creates the art. Would rebinding a copy of Harry Potter change who made that story? Would even burning the book change anything at all regarding that? Saying they are 'separate' is like saying the art makes itself like the trees used to make the paper cut themselves down or the pencil used to write picked itself up.

The art does not create the artist. If there had been no artist there could be no art at all and enjoying/supporting art in any form does not render one bound to it as if it were a 'god' to be 'worshiped'. Or at least it should not. To say it is is to say the art is some kind of 'god' that somehow did not exist until said artist brought it into being yet must have existed to create the artist that created it.

Only to tell the artist 'poor show' after they 'offended' a mob of perpetually offended lunatics looking to tear everything down around them.

Why anyone fears said mob is beyond me but I suspect they must also suffer some form of entanglement within this field of madness for it to possess any ability to move them at all.

 

[Tree]

What do you know? In reply to Dilbert man's banishment, Elon Musk and the Net Negative are signaling that the other guys are the real racists.



Particularly telling is Elon reaffirming the liberal view of history, that for a long time people were very naughty and very racist. Yet you'll get net-negatives and Fox News types falling all over this, perpetually infatuated as they are with taking a hundred steps in a bad direction and two steps back.

Nah, the way to change things is to deny racism as the senseless idea it's always been. It's not wrong to take in to account the often predictable way different people behave as groups. However it is wrong to deny people their rational faculties through this secular form of the word heretic approved by the state cult.

 

[McKennai]

Hope the Jim Davis Arc will follow-up, what a year.

 

[FarmVille]

i'm not, i'm just saying. i don't think it's coincidental that he's been associated with the right wing for at least 7 years, but he says what every white person with at least a 3 digit iq is thinking and suddenly his career is dead.

No one on fucking kiwi farms is an expert on what people with 3 digit iqs are thinking, dumbshit

 

[Fount of BadSpeak]

When I purchase or enjoy a product, I want to enjoy it. Not be bogged down by forced politics. I like Dilbert, but not the creator. I'm not personally offended with his statement; it's the unnecessary notion to alienate an audience that people are doing nowadays. He even admitted on Twitter that he wanted to "get cancelled" in a big way. Congratulations, I guess.

I wanted to prove a point that art could exist on its own merits, depending on the individual. Besides, I'm likely going to forget about this in due time.

He didn't put this in Dilbert. You didn't actually answer my question either. If what he said isn't offensive to you, why are you so bent out of shape over this? He said this halfway through a podcast I highly doubt you listen to, not the comic you want to enjoy. Besides, who is being alienated by the idea of avoiding people who openly hate you, other than the ones who hate you?

 

[870EVO]

What do you know? In reply to Dilbert man's banishment, Elon Musk and the Net Negative are signaling that the other guys are the real racists.

If you think a particular race can only succeed, only through systemic changes that ignore merit or competence and push them up the ladder. Then by your actions you must believe that race is inferior, lesser. So.... racist.

Notice how the "anti-racists" NEVER want to address the causes. Just the symptoms. Maybe if the media hadn't blasted "Nigga Gangsta" and "Bitches and Hos" to the Black community for 30 years, and tried to incorporate the Black community instead of creating this parallel media industry and culture that derides the foundations of Western civilization. We wouldn't have this today. Have you ever seen a woke person ever bring any of those points up?

 

[Debbie Macomber]

Maybe we will get that Ben Garrison lawsuit