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Huh. Procyon has gotten dumber. How many times has he aggregated a user’s problematic behavior — regardless of topical continuity — to tip the scales in favor of disciplinary action? The original post makes it clear that after the initial incident, there were terms set for Nico’s continued existence on staff, and those haven’t been met. This is too stupid to be stupid. Procyon is either spinning personal interest or his current illness a neurological one. And this by definition isn’t “manifestly” anything, that’s why there’s a discussion going on. Procyon is what being educated beyond your intelligence looks like.View attachment 2047513
Irony is delicious.
I get where you’re coming from but talking like this is how false accusations and misinformation spread.
Just gonna link this again.
Not quite irony, shows self-preservation from whose talkingView attachment 2047513
Irony is delicious.
I was referencing the Cerastes incident when I called it ironic, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is also him trying to save his own skin.Not quite irony, shows self-preservation from whose talking
We've already gone over why that would be a bad idea probably multiple times, best case is it brings nothing, worst case it's actively counterproductive to the point of the thread.why is this in multimedia and not community watch
I knew, but he's worse than Uncle Nicolini will ever be. He is trying to save his own hide from the fire as it wereI was referencing the Cerastes incident when I called it ironic, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is also him trying to save his own skin.
So he pled guilty then. Well that was fun. I watched Creepy Uncle Nico go from a doe-eyed author who wrote just great articles (like this (actually the draft version... the critique process made this one worse) and this) to getting a big head after his author page got a lot of upvotes, to getting on staff and adopting an incredibly demeaning tone to users that were in his position only months before, to regularly rubbing shoulders with some of the worst people on the wiki. Just look at his author page list:I knew, but he's worse than Uncle Nicolini will ever be. He is trying to save his own hide from the fire as it were
edit because im not a double posting retard: http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-14038817#post-4940816 uncle nicolini retired
Normally I find content warnings on a literal horror site excessive but holy shit the amount of weird stuff on here.So he pled guilty then. Well that was fun. I watched Creepy Uncle Nico go from a doe-eyed author who wrote just great articles (like this (actually the draft version... the critique process made this one worse) and this) to getting a big head after his author page got a lot of upvotes, to getting on staff and adopting an incredibly demeaning tone to users that were in his position only months before, to regularly rubbing shoulders with some of the worst people on the wiki. Just look at his author page list:
This looks like an infestation to me. Reads like a who’s who of deviants and shitty people. Look at the content warnings (CW). I’m not saying you can read into this with certainty from this level of observation, but there are patterns with authors who get together and write. Deviancy attracts more deviancy.
Nico, if you ever read this, the good in you has been digested by SCP. Thank you for your organ donation.
CW: Gore? Emotional/Animal/Child Abuse? I'm sorry, but what are these CWs preventing exactly? The site explicitly mentions being inappropriate for a younger audience for it's content already?So he pled guilty then. Well that was fun. I watched Creepy Uncle Nico go from a doe-eyed author who wrote just great articles (like this (actually the draft version... the critique process made this one worse) and this) to getting a big head after his author page got a lot of upvotes, to getting on staff and adopting an incredibly demeaning tone to users that were in his position only months before, to regularly rubbing shoulders with some of the worst people on the wiki. Just look at his author page list:
This looks like an infestation to me. Reads like a who’s who of deviants and shitty people. Look at the content warnings (CW). I’m not saying you can read into this with certainty from this level of observation, but there are patterns with authors who get together and write. Deviancy attracts more deviancy.
Nico, if you ever read this, the good in you has been digested by SCP. Thank you for your organ donation.
I think it’s a relatively considerate thing to do. Most people can handle buckets of blood in a fictional horror-fantasy setting that’s obviously detached form reality. But the very real and concrete details of, say, child abuse? That can be deeply upsetting and derail the whole day of someone with PTSD around the issue. Not a great feeling if you’re just looking for some spooky containment horror escapism. At minimum, people who are sensitive to those issues can benefit from the advanced warning of knowing what they’re getting into. BUT, it may mean fewer people click on an article, so you see less love of content warnings among authors who live for getting those clicks and the subsequent upvotes.CW: Gore? Emotional/Animal/Child Abuse? I'm sorry, but what are these CWs preventing exactly? The site explicitly mentions being inappropriate for a younger audience for it's content already?
A collaboration with Gabriel Jade involving child abuse and gore. This is beyond parody.So he pled guilty then. Well that was fun. I watched Creepy Uncle Nico go from a doe-eyed author who wrote just great articles (like this (actually the draft version... the critique process made this one worse) and this) to getting a big head after his author page got a lot of upvotes, to getting on staff and adopting an incredibly demeaning tone to users that were in his position only months before, to regularly rubbing shoulders with some of the worst people on the wiki. Just look at his author page list:
This looks like an infestation to me. Reads like a who’s who of deviants and shitty people. Look at the content warnings (CW). I’m not saying you can read into this with certainty from this level of observation, but there are patterns with authors who get together and write. Deviancy attracts more deviancy.
Nico, if you ever read this, the good in you has been digested by SCP. Thank you for your organ donation.
For an April Fools joke, this is pretty good.
Eh, I like it, but I can see where he's coming from here. The 682 one was pretty good, I enjoyed the first few after that, but the joke's been stretched extremely thin now. I do find it hilarious that Ratking is saying this, though.
PG-13 for sure, but ARD understands the questionable morals of writing a hyper-sexualized 16 year old some gay love fanfic on request, when in the author comments he says: "While I was initially hesitant to post,..."I wanted to kiss him. To reach out and touch him and caress his face. To receive a part of his ambition and persistence and intelligence and discipline. Even now I can feel my face flush at the thoughts.
The night before my departure, I awoke to find Ion in my bed. He simply took my hand and kissed it, and I understood what needed to be done. [It wasn't sex lol.]
When I went to bed that night, in the desert sands, I briefly imagined snuggling up to him. The pressure of his legs pressed against mine, the warmth of his back on my chin, the soft smoothness of his skin. Then the moment passed, and I clutched my pillow a little tighter.
Staff have many wrong lines, but they are all committed to not breaking the play.<Tuomey> the actor who says a wrong line has made a mistake the guy who points it out has broken the play
Most of this is unsurprising at this point, but I'm really surprised to see mlister here. They always seemed like the kind of person who would know better than to discuss anything sexual with wiki members. Also,Today's reading is a search through the chatlogs for Z.
As she would admit, Z really really put herself and her sexuality out there for the creeps to circle. Very much like Cyantreuse did, and he would admit that too I'm sure and not be proud of it. While they took part in the culture, that doesn’t excuse what the culture did back to them. Just serves as a caution to not show any skin around the creeps there... they will smell it like blood in the water and claw for more.
In the logs, we see a number of questionable things from people on staff that should have been uncomfortably obvious, and likely were, to anyone witnessing. For example, after announcing she was 16, Varaxous (who stepped down from staff sometime after the Bright thing, really doesn’t like this KF thread, got the ire of Z herself after her rebuke of the staff, and who made private all their Twitter posts after they showed up here) as well as others ask her to share her porn art that had been making the rounds in the DMs of the community, then encourage more of it from her. They talk about her writing an erotic fiction about SCPs. Jacob Conwell, a staff member of some repute, doesn’t seem to bat an eye when he’s told this point-blank. In fact, he seems to look the other way. There's no further discussion of this in staff chat. When reading the actual logs, recall that she was denied entry into the #site12 NSFW side chat because she was underage. But months earlier, the same content in a different chat, one run by staff and largely for staff, is
While Z did piggyback onto Randomini's plans to go to a local convention to meet up, Randomini also offers Z his Facebook so they can DM and meet up. This detail is conveniently excluded in the otherwise comprehensive (?) defense of Randomini (probably by Randomini himself) against Z's claims. It was not the case that Randomini merely "publicly announced his planned attendance of Oz Comic-Con via Reddit". He may have done that too, but that's certainly not the full story.
Less egregious but still questionable, ARD wrote a gay romance tale for Z because she asked him to as part of a yearly art exchange. (Similar exchanges included erotic/smut-like works, such as djkaktus' exchange to TroyL.) Some quotes from ARD's tale:
PG-13 for sure, but ARD understands the questionable morals of writing a hyper-sexualized 16 year old some gay love fanfic on request, when in the author comments he says: "While I was initially hesitant to post,..."
All the sexually skeevy sorts from SCP (mainly staff) flock to collaborate with her, including saX the well-established pedo. All while everyone knew she was 16.
A lot of these are from #rogetbox, which you can think of as one of many user-sponsored “cool & attractive people” chats, which are invite-only (another example is kaktuskontainer). Sort of a more relaxed staff+ chat.
05:23:24: <MinMin> Z are you actually 12
05:23:34: <MinMin> i joined at 14 anyway lmao
05:24:17: <Z> minmin No I'm 16
[Just for some context. This was 6-20-17.]
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<DrMagnus> You know what's weird?
21:44:21: <Roget> dicks?
<DrMagnus> No, dicks are pretty normal. Like almost exactly normal (50%)
21:44:38: Z comes in
21:44:48: Z sees dicks
21:45:00: Z ooh
21:45:35: <mlister> Z I fail to see any phalli in this chatroom.
21:49:15: <Z> mlister: there is always phalli everywhere at any given time
21:51:09: <mlister> Z Yeah, but what's the point if I can't see them?
21:55:27: <mlister> Z Isn't using an invisible penis hard?
21:55:51: <Z> mlister: it only adds to the thrill of the experience
21:56:32: <mlister> Z I didn't know that the experience of using a penis could get any thrillier.
<Z> mlister: you need to think outside the box
<Z> don't just go with a dick- try an invisible one, a radioactive one... whatever works
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22:23:13: <Varaxous> Also Z I just saw the threesome art you made a while ago
22:24:20: <moklin> Varaxous: I keep hearing about Z's three-way art. where is it?
22:25:11: <moklin> Z: show or b&
22:25:27: <Z> lol ban me
22:25:38: <Roget> link that shit asap
22:26:02: <Varaxous> moklin: https://68.media.tumblr.com/6dedbbb560ba0b3a06af39895183493e/tumblr_opsgiy00N91w6i6mko1_1280.jpg
https://archive.ph/0sHQd [NSFW]
22:26:17: <Roget> Varaxous: hoooot
22:26:31: <moklin> Varaxous: nice
22:26:38: <Varaxous> The GOC one: https://68.media.tumblr.com/c24a615c740087f73ada00bf28d9c969/tumblr_ophe9atRk01w6i6mko1_1280.jpg
https://archive.ph/HiL95 [less NSFW, but still]
22:28:13: <Z> plugging in porn is the highest state of plugging
22:28:48: <Rimple> Group sex seems like a fun thing that should be more normalised and approachable
22:28:51: <moklin> Roget: agreed
22:29:06: <moklin> to both points
22:29:20: <Z> Roget: does that mean that I can write that 7000-word tale in which Dr Roget bangs everything in the SCPF in numerical order?
22:29:26: <Roget> Z: do it
22:29:27: <weryllium> ...
22:29:28: <Roget> I endorse it
22:30:42: <Roget> Z: I would defend u to the death
22:30:55: <Z> bc people will be requesting that I get banned for using their scips in this
22:31:12: <weryllium> you can use any of mine if you can figure out how
22:31:30: <Roget> Z: you can use all my scps
22:31:38: <moklin> Z: if you can figure out how Roget would successfully fuck scp-3125, i'd upvote it
22:32:21: <Rimple> Full freedom to write 948 smut
22:34:51: <Varaxous> I give you full permission to use all (both) of my SCPs
22:34:19: <Rimple> None of my other skips would be appropriate to involve in sexual stuff
22:35:00: <Z> Rimple: nothing is inappropriate for sexual stuff
22:35:00: <Z> especially not !scp-3500
22:35:01: <Jarvis> Z: SCP-3500: Instructions Unclear, Got Dick Stuck In Roget (co-written 4 months ago by Rimple and DrBleep; rating: +74) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3500
22:34:52: Conwell looks into Roget box
22:35:02: Conwell looks out of Rogetbox
22:35:56: <Z> Conwell: lol ban me
22:36:03: <Z> the power discrepancy is hawt
22:38:53: <Z> of course, I'm not going to use underage scips in this
22:39:12: <Conwell> Z: What are you doing?
22:39:52: <Z> Conwell: writing a 7000-word tale about Roget banging everything in the SCPF in numerical order
22:40:01: <Conwell> Ah
22:56:49: <Z> Maxson: I'm going to have 055 fuck 579
22:57:29: <BANANAMAN> cant fit round pegs in square holes
22:57:44: <Z> ^ yeah that
22:57:52: <Z> I'll try to put a sexy spin on that line
22:59:23: <VaraxiOS> 'At least not without some lube'
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23:02:18: <BANANAMAN> Randomini: is that u
23:02:34: <Randomini> Bananaman: yes
23:03:02: <Z> Randomini: WAIT ARE YOU GOING TO BE AT COMICON
23:03:06: Z goes to book tickets
23:05:33: <Z> Randomini: I'll keep in touch through chat, so that we can meet at comicon
23:05:38: Z squees
23:06:25: <Randomini> Z: add me on facebook, it is probably easier, but yes
23:07:11: <Randomini> .tell Z if you can't get ahold of me on chat add/message me on facebook and my phone should get it https://www.facebook.com/Randomini
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05:13:57: <Z> dreams= double ruined
05:14:04: <Z> I was hoping to flirt with djoric
05:14:10: <Z> but 1. he's not staff anymore
05:14:17: <Z> 2. staffchat appears to suck
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03:02:51: <Ard> mmmm which of you thirsty fuckers keeps upvoting man machine (http://www.scpwiki.com/the-man-machine)
03:10:47: <Ard> I only wrote it cause Z wanted something gay
47:57: <Ard> .tell Z i'm glad you liked it
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06:06:02: <Zyn> Z's Chinese, isn't she?
06:06:10: <Ard> Chinese Australian
06:06:11: <djkaktus> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
06:06:12: <djkaktus> yeah
????
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20:34:37: saX is beginning work on a personal project with Z
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Z: Hello, I would like to be Outreach staff on DA [DeviantArt]. Lord Roget is our glorious savior.
<Roget> .tell Z hit me up when you see me and we'll set you up
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00:26:22: <Tuomey> this is why I'm glad all my irl contact w/ 17 yos is at circus conventions where everyone is hugging everyone and there are people keeping eyes out for creepers
00:26:23: <Decibelle> that lightened the mood for me at least lmao
00:26:49: <Tuomey> keeps things reasonable and socially acceptable and so on
00:26:53: <DrMagnus> I think of anyone underage like a small child. If thye start getting weird I'm like "Why are you doing this?"
00:27:04: <Decibelle> also
00:27:09: <Decibelle> everyone just
00:27:14: <Decibelle> casually skipped over something i had no idea about
00:27:18: <Decibelle> Z visited randomini irl??????
00:27:26: <ProcyonLotor> I'm close enough to that age to remember being a weird ball of hormones
00:27:30: <Conwell> They met up at a con, Deci
00:27:31: <ProcyonLotor> I hid it better
00:27:47: <Tuomey> Decibelle: they live near enough each other and went to the same convention at some point
00:28:07: <Tuomey> they don't hang out on the reg, rando's 22 and Z is 17
[Just a note: age of consent in Australia is 16]
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<Maxson> not to be a bitch but why does Z keep dragging her SIX YEAR OLD brother for liking the Big Spoopy popular s1 scps
21:39:14: <Tuomey> is she doing this in 19
21:39:37: <Tuomey> oh of course she is
21:40:32: <Maxson> yeah that's why I'm being a bitch about it
21:40:51: <Tuomey> I mean
21:40:56: <Roget> vOv
21:41:11: <Tuomey> at least we don't have to worry about a six year old going stalker on every guy in the fandom if he does sign up
So staff knew Z was displaying sexually-seeking behavior towards site members, especially staff and authors with notoriety, but they don't really care about the very sexual discussion and content (e.g. erotic fanfics, NSFW art, etc) around her; only that she is bashing her younger brother about liking series 1 SCPs... priorities. They only made the age restriction policies and the reminder to not leverage your clout in SCP for sex years after this point.
Some other, random choice findings in the course of this:
03:12:38: <Ard> jesus died because he was nailed by three men at once
I think this is pretty funny actually. But going by the SCP's "moral standards", that’s probably a citation for religious insensitivity in other contexts, but even though ARD has displayed religious and racial insensitivity previously, (1) it’s ARD, so rules don’t apply and (2) it’s Christianity, whose oppression income is too low for these progressives to give a shit about.
And of course Bright has to steal the show in the midst of all this, so why not:
02:56:19: <TheDuckMan> I now want to write a tale that consists of the word Fuck, over and over...
02:56:35: <TheDuckMan> Also, heya clef.
02:56:38: <Clef> hey duckman
02:56:42: <Clef> you're my hero
02:56:49: <Clef> you have lots of sex and do ren faire.
02:57:04: <TheDuckMan> ...why? Cause I keep getting people to send me nudes by talking to them about the SCP foundation?
02:58:48: <Clef> duckman: you are like my total opposite
02:58:56: <Clef> but I respect your ability to get laid from anything.
02:59:43: <TheDuckMan> But Clef... I'm just... *shrug* I get laid, becuase I put myself out a lot. Like, I tend to call it the shotgun approach... if you use buckshot, you're more likely to hit something than if you use soid shot...
03:01:39: <Truffles> TheDuckman: who are you talking to that sends you nudes when you tell them about the scp foundation
03:01:47: <Clef> oh shit, duckman
03:01:50: <Clef> you didn't tell them?
03:01:53: <Clef> about how SCP got you laid?
03:02:41: <TheDuckMan> I was flirting with a girl from okcupid, and when i told her i was bright, i got invited to spend the night with her and her wife.
03:03:00: <TheDuckMan> And, recently, someone fromt he SCP foundation face book page freinded me, and has been sending me nudes...
03:03:16: <Clef> see
03:03:17: <Truffles> are you fucking kidding me
03:03:19: <saX> ... what.
03:04:17: <TheDuckMan> And honestly... yes, it';s charisma, and showing real caring for people, and just putting myself out there, again and again... and most important?
03:04:30: <TheDuckMan> You have to be ok with being peoples friends.
03:04:32: <TheDuckMan> Like.
03:04:48: <TheDuckMan> Seriously ok, not fake, hanging around with them because you might one day get laid.
03:08:48: <TheDuckMan> Duckman doesn;t mention he has wife and girlfriend...
03:10:34: <TheDuckMan> I've had several people recently go ":So, you're poly right, I have so many questions!" And I'm in my head like "Why me, I have only... had a stable poly realtionship for 15 years. Fuck."
03:11:29: <TheDuckMan> I do not have confidence. I am constantly apologizing, and checkign in, and making sure people are ok with what I do... and you get me drunk and I become SUPER concerned with consent tot he point of asking before I shake hands...
03:13:41: <TheDuckMan> I also love how I've gone from being the "Fuck the fans" guy to the "Fucked the fans" guy... And also seemingly the kindly grandfather of the tumblr scp universe...
03:13:52: <Taffeta> daddyducky
03:14:06: <TheDuckMan> Uncle Duck in most places... especially to Littles.
???
I also found this, which I thought ended up being great meta-commentary on staff and their general attitude/behavior re: all the skeletons in their closet:
Staff have many wrong lines, but they are all committed to not breaking the play.
Trust me, you do not want to know.03:14:06: <TheDuckMan> Uncle Duck in most places... especially to Littles.
???
Here's to hoping that the rewrites are at least good. This one is okay.So the campaign to weasel out of deleting Harmony's articles has officially begun.