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The 8 Of Spades said:
www.scpwiki.com/scp-4294

"Oh this is actually pretty cool, I wonder what the explanation is....oh of course an elemental tranny who's elmental mother doesn't accept it."

This shit is so fucking sad.
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Oh, would you look at who wrote this one.
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Funnily enough, there's a new thread on O5 over updating the policy on vandalism and the consequences for it here. It's nothing special, if anything I'm glad they're trying to be more specific about the punishment for it.

Ultimately it's probably irrelevant, but it is pretty interesting to see changes attempted towards something that has stood for a while.
 
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bettermybutter said:
Funnily enough, there's a new thread on O5 over updating the policy on vandalism and the consequences for it here. It's nothing special, if anything I'm glad they're trying to be more specific about the punishment for it.

Ultimately it's probably irrelevant, but it is pretty interesting to see changes attempted towards something that has stood for a while.
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Here's some other policy threads they've got up right now:

[Proposal] Town Halls Part 2 - O5 Command

05command.wikidot.com 05command.wikidot.com

Harassment Team Ban Reasons Update - O5 Command

05command.wikidot.com 05command.wikidot.com
I didn't think they would ever bother to do it, but here we are.
 
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Some of the funniest shit I've seen in a while: old author djoric (wrote DEER, Stealing Solidarity, etc) returned out of nowhere to edit SCP-040 - one of their older pieces. Among these edits is a... Let's say, familiar format.

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They also posted an explanation for the new format:

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Pay special attention to the following:

  • "Object Class" now refers to what broad category the scip belongs to - human, animal, location, phenomenon, object, memetic agent, etc.
  • "Hazard Rating" is precisely that, going white / green / yellow / orange / red / black (though honestly I don't know if orange is going to stick around, it might get cut).
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Figured it out yet?

Just in case you need a reminder, this is taken from the RPC format guide for the Research Division Tone.

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There's not even a change in the "Hazard Rating" colours.

Not only that, but there is not one mention of RPC anywhere -- not the edit history, not the article itself, not the Discussion. I think it's fair to say that this is clear cut plagiarism. It probably won't survive once it's called out: don't doubt that Djoric would rather back down from the entire thing rather than offer a sliver of (legally obligated) credit to RPC.

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It's derivative from the content written for RPC, which is licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The two aspects I pointed out are copied bit by bit from RPC's, down to the colors used in the Hazard Rating, which has 1 word swapped from Lethality Rating.
 
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LordSifr said:
It's derivative from the content written for RPC, which is licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The two aspects I pointed out are copied bit by bit from RPC's, down to the colors used in the Hazard Rating, which has 1 word swapped from Lethality Rating.
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If that's the perceived issue, I'll point out that there are notable differences between Djoric's format and the RPC format:
-Djoric's format has an Object Class equivalent, RPC's format doesn't.
-The RPC format has an Abstract section to briefly summarize the anomaly, Djoric's does not.
-There's no "Standard Containment Policies" equivalent in RPC's format.
-Djoric's format has a "Hazard Rating" but no section to list the kinds of hazards personnel can expect to deal with.
This isn't a straight-up ripoff, and if we're just focusing on the color classes then I'll point out that using a color scale to indicate danger started with the French branch long before RPC's creation. As for the Object Class/Item Type thing, it can be argued that it just makes more sense to do that in-universe anyway, so it's not surprising for two people/groups to independently think of it.

This claim doesn't hold up to scrutiny at all.
 
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LordSifr said:
Some of the funniest shit I've seen in a while: old author djoric (wrote DEER, Stealing Solidarity, etc) returned out of nowhere to edit SCP-040 - one of their older pieces. Among these edits is a... Let's say, familiar format.

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They also posted an explanation for the new format:

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Pay special attention to the following:



Figured it out yet?

Just in case you need a reminder, this is taken from the RPC format guide for the Research Division Tone.

View attachment 2090155
There's not even a change in the "Hazard Rating" colours.

Not only that, but there is not one mention of RPC anywhere -- not the edit history, not the article itself, not the Discussion. I think it's fair to say that this is clear cut plagiarism. It probably won't survive once it's called out: don't doubt that Djoric would rather back down from the entire thing rather than offer a sliver of (legally obligated) credit to RPC.

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post was good until the part where you said he should credit RPC for a certain arrangement of text

please dont forget where RPC came from. the format is highly derivative of SCP's. i hope to god you guys aren't sperging about getting Djoric to credit you, because if you are then youre autistic. Getting hung up over meaningless shit like this is a one way trip to the slippery slope SCP slid down. Who cares.

edit: not to say that this isnt genuinely hilarious, because it is
 
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Furret said:
If that's the perceived issue, I'll point out that there are notable differences between Djoric's format and the RPC format:
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I'm pointing specifically to the Object Class and Hazard Rating sections: should've clarified.

I can believe that two independent parties would come to use the same color coding, but not so much when the color coding, definition, name of one format segment and even a separate format segment with a different purpose come to resemble each other.

Baubius said:
please dont forget where RPC came from. the format is highly derivative of SCP's
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I may be incorrect here, but I remember this was a primary reason for the system being reworked.

In any case, RPC is tangential to my post and the thread subject. RPC has no relevance save for the format similarities at hand.
 
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LordSifr said:
I'm pointing specifically to the Object Class and Hazard Rating sections: should've clarified.

I can believe that two independent parties would come to use the same color coding, but not so much when the color coding, definition, name of one format segment and even a separate format segment with a different purpose come to resemble each other.
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I mean, sure, but that's such a minor similarity that I don't think it's really worth discussing.
 
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LordSifr said:
It's derivative from the content written for RPC, which is licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The two aspects I pointed out are copied bit by bit from RPC's, down to the colors used in the Hazard Rating, which has 1 word swapped from Lethality Rating.
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It doesn't matter if it's directly derived from it or not. Copyright doesn't apply to general concepts like formats, facts, and systems. Nobody has a copyright on color-coded danger ratings, it's a generic idea that gets used in all sorts of places. You can often get a trademark on a particular expression of a generic concept, but it's pretty hard to prove trademark violation unless the knockoff is deceptive to the point that it could easily be confused for the real thing.

You can argue that the format seems shamelessly plagiarized, that it's morally wrong for them to copy it, and that even if it wasn't intentionally copied it's still a bad look for it to be so similar. That doesn't mean it's a violation of copyright or licensing, though. Just call it shitty hack writing and be done with it, there's no point pretending it's a legal issue when it isn't.
 
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LordSifr said:
Some of the funniest shit I've seen in a while: old author djoric (wrote DEER, Stealing Solidarity, etc) returned out of nowhere to edit SCP-040 - one of their older pieces. Among these edits is a... Let's say, familiar format.

View attachment 2090154

They also posted an explanation for the new format:

View attachment 2090156

Pay special attention to the following:



Figured it out yet?

Just in case you need a reminder, this is taken from the RPC format guide for the Research Division Tone.

View attachment 2090155
There's not even a change in the "Hazard Rating" colours.

Not only that, but there is not one mention of RPC anywhere -- not the edit history, not the article itself, not the Discussion. I think it's fair to say that this is clear cut plagiarism. It probably won't survive once it's called out: don't doubt that Djoric would rather back down from the entire thing rather than offer a sliver of (legally obligated) credit to RPC.

Link (Revision 59, April 13th 2021):
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You sure he's not deliberately taking the piss at RPC? Or shit, maybe even SCP?
 
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LordSifr said:
Some of the funniest shit I've seen in a while: old author djoric (wrote DEER, Stealing Solidarity, etc) returned out of nowhere to edit SCP-040 - one of their older pieces. Among these edits is a... Let's say, familiar format.

View attachment 2090154

They also posted an explanation for the new format:

View attachment 2090156

Pay special attention to the following:



Figured it out yet?

Just in case you need a reminder, this is taken from the RPC format guide for the Research Division Tone.

View attachment 2090155
There's not even a change in the "Hazard Rating" colours.

Not only that, but there is not one mention of RPC anywhere -- not the edit history, not the article itself, not the Discussion. I think it's fair to say that this is clear cut plagiarism. It probably won't survive once it's called out: don't doubt that Djoric would rather back down from the entire thing rather than offer a sliver of (legally obligated) credit to RPC.

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Per Lt_Flops:

This is hardly the gotcha you think it is. Lethality rating is based on Threat Level, something Djoric himself literally came up with, and which was expanded on by the French SCP Branch. And if you click that first link, and go into the first iterations of its history, you can actually see he's used that kind of naming convention for anomaly type before, too.

I would argue this formatting convention/classification system is hardly an idea which SCP or RPC have any particular ownership over. Besides — inspiration across CC-BY-SA is absolutely allowed. Do remember where RPC has its roots set in.
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Take this as you will
 
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Baubius said:
ok this is really funny:
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dunno if this is just staff being retarded or actual pettiness at work, but with context i cannot help but smile

i checked and the original link was the RPC object class formatting page. also pretty sure JoMike is an RPC user if my memory serves me well.
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Because that's totally what they meant.
Shitassdeaddude said:
You sure he's not deliberately taking the piss at RPC? Or shit, maybe even SCP?
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I'd like to point out that Djoric was pushing for things like Threat Levels ages ago, back when they were decidedly unpopular. Including threat levels in his Series 3 articles was pretty unprecedented.
 
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