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[The Spoils of War]

link me one of these new bright articles.

I can't find the one I was remembering, but my point about the OCs still stands.

 

[SnakeEye]

link me one of these new bright articles.
other 2010 era donut steel ocs are still somewhat popular, but bright is the exception. it's not hard to see why.
(learn to read, while you're at it - i'd be one of the last people to defend current era scp)

Not the guy, but it doesn’t take much to find that the old OCs have been replaced by new ones. First example that comes to mind: Doctor Placeholder. Overrated author as well.
Some of the shitty SCPs brought up here have protagonist author self-insert issues too.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

Named scientist/researcher characters should never have been a thing in the first place.

All you needed to say, the rest is still 100% correct. This is supposed to be a faceless organization shrouded in mystery, I get that named characters can add a lot to a story so you can relate in some way but that requires actual talent.

 

[AnOminous]

All you needed to say, the rest is still 100% correct. This is supposed to be a faceless organization shrouded in mystery, I get that named characters can add a lot to a story so you can relate in some way but that requires actual talent.

No, it is a wackyzany current year organization that loves the LGBT and diversity and rainbows and stuff!

 

[TheCrackMonkey]

after some further research, it's probably about the bright thing (he refused to state his reason for deleting his works, but one can assume.). kalinin has always been a "i'm a real author doing real author things, the scp wiki is serious business" type of guy, and the current discussion about deleting everything bright ever posted probably dismayed him a lot. imagine if we did that in real life - 80% of all french authors would be erased from history.
funnily enough, they are seriously debating on just removing the deletion function entirely now. clear sign of the site doing well.

I'd like to think that he hadn't seen the site in years, decided on a whim to check it out again, saw that everything he hated writing-wise had reached a terminal stage, and then decided that he didn't want his writing to be associated with the site anymore because of that.

 

[The Spoils of War]

No, it is a wackyzany current year organization that loves the LGBT and diversity and rainbows and stuff!

Dude, it's a photocopy store.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

Place your bets, how long until the site is either shut down or left to rot as barely anyone contributes anymore like the other SCP "forks?" I'm better 3-5 more years.

 

[The Spoils of War]

Place your bets, how long until the site is either shut down or left to rot as barely anyone contributes anymore like the other SCP "forks?"

I'm sure RPC will die in three years because it hasn't been cemented in Internet culture like SCP and doesn't offer much apart from not having troon flags. It has better lore, I guess? I just want to read about interesting or scary concepts, not play in culture wars.

 

[MugolEx]

I'm sure RPC will die in three years because it hasn't been cemented in Internet culture like SCP and doesn't offer much apart from not having troon flags. It has better lore, I guess? I just want to read about interesting or scary concepts, not play in culture wars.

Honestly I thought RPC would already be dead. The strongest thing that they had was being SCP with the policy that it would be like the early days. RPC was never going to cement itself in Internet culture anyways as they were copying something that was already well established, regardless of culture war\tranny shit. RPC reflects what SCP would still be if PewDiePie never played Containment Breach. If that never happened, SCP would have never seen an influx of Tumblrinas bringing over their propensity to write self insert fan fiction into everything. And it would have only been a small but maybe still dedicated section on the Internet that stuck closer to it's roots as no outside influence would have changed it's culture. Cultural relevancy can really be a double edge sword. Get popular and you likely run the risk of you community changing for the worse. Don't become popular and you eventually die off but at least you had some good untainted memories.

 

[The Spoils of War]

Cultural relevancy can really be a double edge sword. Get popular and you likely run the risk of you community changing for the worse. Don't become popular and you eventually die off but at least you had some good untainted memories.

I think popularity can be good for a community if it gatekeeps itself by being hard on "casuals," which SCP was not.

 

[Irrational Exuberance]

I think popularity can be good for a community if it gatekeeps itself by being hard on "casuals," which SCP was not.

That's correct, but unfortunately these days it's not enough to simply post the rules on the front gate and tell people to abide by them or get out.

When you get people whose entire way of thinking is alien to yours (what with Critical Theory, Queer Theory, and general philosophy which runs contrary to basic human nature), the very language that is used can be turned into a weapon (being more "inclusive" and "tolerant" is all well and good, but then it proceeds to things like "systemic" this and "historically oppressed" that, and it all turns into a poisonous soup that corrupts the entire structure and twists it into something that its original creators never even dreamed of.

The only solution for this, unfortunately, is education--and it is a long, grueling process.

 

[MugolEx]

That's correct, but unfortunately these days it's not enough to simply post the rules on the front gate and tell people to abide by them or get out.

When you get people whose entire way of thinking is alien to yours (what with Critical Theory, Queer Theory, and general philosophy which runs contrary to basic human nature), the very language that is used can be turned into a weapon (being more "inclusive" and "tolerant" is all well and good, but then it proceeds to things like "systemic" this and "historically oppressed" that, and it all turns into a poisonous soup that corrupts the entire structure and twists it into something that its original creators never even dreamed of.

The only solution for this, unfortunately, is education--and it is a long, grueling process.

It's why you need to run a site like a dictatorship. It cuts through the BS and gets to the heart of the point. If it's not related or is at conflict with the site's goals the answer is a no. And if they insist or start weaponizing language, tell them to fuck off. What are they going to do, leave? The way Null runs KF should is how any site with a specific niche focus should be ran. Because that niche is already small, adding anything else will easily overshadow it.

 

[The Spoils of War]

It's why you need to run a site like a dictatorship. It cuts through the BS and gets to the heart of the point.

Communities are similar to movements in how they can be subverted if they don't plainly say they're against certain ideologies. But people are naïve and try to reduce conflict.

 

[VariableOverflow]

Also, someone else was banned because they thought they had crossed from a fictional world to ours.

 

[AnOminous]

I think popularity can be good for a community if it gatekeeps itself by being hard on "casuals," which SCP was not.

I'm glad early SCP was in fact pretty exclusive and had a tough vetting process. Otherwise I might have wasted time contributing to it only to watch it turn into troonslop.

The way Null runs KF should is how any site with a specific niche focus should be ran.

Ironically, the only way to have a "free speech" based forum is to have it run by a ruthless egomaniacal dictator. Once you start turning it over to doit4frees it goes to shit. You can't even do it by oligarchy indefinitely because the most autistic eventually take over and that will mean troons and similar vermin.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

I just want to read about interesting or scary concepts, not play in culture wars.

God I hate this culture war bullshit, it's fun to laugh at but at the end of the day instead of tanks and artillery blowing up your home it's your hobbies, the tanks and artillery replaced with "woke" cancer and political grifting.

Otherwise I might have wasted time contributing to it only to watch it turn into troonslop.

I would ask you what did you contribute because surely it's better than the slop they have now, but I have the feeling that if you say it they'll remove it.

Ironically, the only way to have a "free speech" based forum is to have it run by a ruthless egomaniacal dictator.

"You WILL say (almost) anything you could possible imagine so long as it's not illegal, you WILL watch as faggots seethe from their safe space knowing they'll never have what you have."

You can't even do it by oligarchy indefinitely because the most autistic eventually take over and that will mean troons and similar vermin.

Case and point, look at every oligarchy ever. Even being a dictator is not the end all solution, but on the internet where you can leave if that dictator is making the site dogshit you can leave with no issues, meaning internet dictators would have more of an incentive to not run their website into the ground. I'd recommend emulating the Roman Empire somehow.

 

[morfent]

Place your bets, how long until the site is either shut down or left to rot as barely anyone contributes anymore like the other SCP "forks?" I'm better 3-5 more years.

Within ten years, i'd say.

The wiki itself is running on borrowed time. Wikidot is abandonware that hasn't been meaningfully updated in ten years, and the SCP wiki is pretty much the only site still running on that platform. Once Wikidot goes under, the SCP wiki goes with it.

The SCP admins are aware of that and have tried to relaunch the Wiki on a different platform (see Project Migration), but... it's not going to happen. The project has been running for six years now, and almost zero progress has been made - the GitHub is completely dead, and according to the official blog, the project has just barely progressed past "Release Stage 0" (whichto my knowledge contains nothing but support for user pages, and, to quote, "Support for sites, categories, and pages as concepts"). It's stuck in development hell.

Here's what's going to happen: one day, without warning, Wikidot will go offline. It will be totally unexpected, and no one is going to have any sort of contingency plan for it.

The SCP admins will whip their volunteer coders extra hard and will hapharzedly throw together a new site in six weeks or so, but that new platform will be incredibly barebones and dysfunctional, lacking essential basics like a search function or a sandbox.

In the meantime, a competitor will emerge on a pre-made platform like Fandom, being ran by a person who doesn't care about SCP all that much and just wants a community to monetize. It'll be feature complete, contain all past articles (it's Creative Commons), and thanks to Fandom's legendary SEO, it will always be the first result when you google "scp wiki".

Eventually, the first alpha for the "official" wiki will release, being announced solely on their official Discord and their official BlueSky account (bsky will also be dead, but i can't see the wiki having an official twitter account in the future). Most of the current authors will follow the admins, but that won't matter all that much. Absolutely no one cares about new SCPs - the vast majority of the casual readership does not read new articles, and that will never change.

And if you're a new author... well, would you rather use the popular wiki, or the less popular wiki that's also a headache to work with? Decisions will be made.

The "official" wiki will continue to exist for decades, but it'll be entirely irrelevant. There will be about thirty authors all collectively upvoting their novella length trans allegory SCP articles until the sun explodes, and some of them will pretend that this is actually really fun and much better than the old wiki has ever been - but deep inside, they will be hurting, left seething about being made redundant in an instant.

Oh, and the Fandom wiki will include the Bright list. That's bound to ruffle some feathers.

I'm sure RPC will die in three years because it hasn't been cemented in Internet culture like SCP and doesn't offer much apart from not having troon flags. It has better lore, I guess? I just want to read about interesting or scary concepts, not play in culture wars.

the monocanon alone is enough to doom the rpc wiki as a whole. it's never going to happen. who wants a creative writing site that restricts what you can creatively write about this hard? (not to mention that plenty of "classic scps" wouldn't pass that test either way... 2317, just for instance)

 

[The Spoils of War]

who wants a creative writing site that restricts what you can creatively write about this hard?

You're not allowed to coldpost, either. You have to join their little Discord server and ask a number of people to crit your article, and only then you'll be allowed to post it. It would just be better to have rules on article quality—no absurdly short or long articles, no soapboxing, no plagiarism, no porn or fetish content—and delete any violations.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

I'm still in favor of either making our own little thing for shits and giggles or just posting our writings here.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

Absolutely no one cares about new SCPs - the vast majority of the casual readership does not read new articles, and that will never change.

The vast majority of the fanbase are like JJK fans, they don't read anything. SCP fans after SCP blew up after a bunch of Jewtubers played Containment Breach are mostly visual creatures, even the ones that listen to Volgun read articles because they're most likely listening in the background. Most articles are barely noticed, featured articles get several dozen and if they're lucky to be featured, a few more dozen to 100+. Extremely lucky articles may get more than 100 after a long time and if that article was covered by a bigger YouTuber, and even then most are content to watch that video instead of reading the whole article. And even then SCP in general, unless it's a big ass project, isn't doing numbers. So you are absolutely correct but let me tweak that first bit. Absolutely no one cares about new SCPs, and barely care about SCP in general.

Here's an interesting video I found, talks about a bunch of problems even if he barely talks about the real causes of these problems.