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[alanshaffer3293]

Is RPC any good?

yeah rpc is pretty good. it has issues with quality control since most of its voters just 5 star everything — but other than that I would say join if you are looking for an alternative to scp

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

I think information could be curated better than being spread out over 170+ pages on a forum notorious for being a toxic slime pit. The last thing I want in the world is for anyone to call me that as well

Yeah except you've been here for how long? It's too late now.

 

[Punished “Venom” pH]

Yeah except you've been here for how long? It's too late now.
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Why would I go? Information can exist in more than one place at the same time, and the pedigree established by the thread-goers among us who’ve made real change happen via repeatedly bullying authoritarians running staff into doing the right thing is exactly the type of muck racking truth-seeking journalistic effort that makes me feel tingly inside. @ToS and @Furret are the real heroes who have made it so this thread can’t be ignored by the powers that be. I just want to help amplify their work, nobody is going to call me or anyone boss because we’re all standing on the shoulders of those who have worked tirelessly for years to make sure this information was not forgotten or swept into the dustbin of history.

 

[BurnerPhone]

Why would I go? Information can exist in more than one place at the same time, and the pedigree established by the thread-goers among us who’ve made real change happen via repeatedly bullying authoritarians running staff into doing the right thing is exactly the type of muck racking truth-seeking journalistic effort that makes me feel tingly inside. @ToS and @Furret are the real heroes who have made it so this thread can’t be ignored by the powers that be. I just want to help amplify their work, nobody is going to call me or anyone boss because we’re all standing on the shoulders of those who have worked tirelessly for years to make sure this information was not forgotten or swept into the dustbin of history.

This is what schizo-posting looks like

 

[Punished “Venom” pH]

This is what schizo-posting looks like

No, I would have to be railing against CRIMINAL GANGSTERS with their NOODLY APPENDAGES OF SOCIETY or something like that for your label to apply, at worst I’m merely an incoherent moron.

 

[Baubius]

No, I would have to be railing against CRIMINAL GANGSTERS with their NOODLY APPENDAGES OF SOCIETY or something like that for your label to apply, at worst I’m merely an incoherent moron.

drop the sperging and check this out: Ihp and Locke rewrote Keter Duty. what do you think?

 

[HIVidaBoheme]

the pedigree established by the thread-goers among us who’ve made real change happen via repeatedly bullying authoritarians running staff into doing the right thing is exactly the type of muck racking truth-seeking journalistic effort that makes me feel tingly inside.

What? Friend this is a thread on an autistic site dedicated to laughing at other autists. Not some autistic illuminati to carry out autistic crusades or go "powers that be notice me uguuuuuu"

Sad to see how many newfags have come to shit up this place with retarded crusading and sticker sperging, but that's backseat moderating and no one cares about that.

drop the sperging and check this out: Ihp and Locke rewrote Keter Duty. what do you think?

This rewrite took less than expected, and it doesn't even look remarkable or like any serious critique was given to greenlight it. More of the same wordy, boring Thaumiel classes.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Sad to see how many newfags have come to shit up this place with retarded crusading and sticker sperging, but that's backseat moderating and no one cares about that.

We're the autistic illuminati duh.

 

[Punished “Venom” pH]

What? Friend this is a thread on an autistic site dedicated to laughing at other autists. Not some autistic illuminati to carry out autistic crusades or go "powers that be notice me uguuuuuu"

Sad to see how many newfags have come to shit up this place with retarded crusading and sticker sperging, but that's backseat moderating and no one cares about that.


This rewrite took less than expected, and it doesn't even look remarkable or like any serious critique was given to greenlight it. More of the same wordy, boring Thaumiel classes.

I mean it’s not like I have anything better to do with my time lol

As for the new Keter Duty, it’s the Vince Vaughn Psycho remake of SCP-001 Proposals.

e: Why say with a paragraph what you can say with thousands of words? In the name of clarification of course. This is much easier to understand

 

[shnoopsis]

This rewrite took less than expected, and it doesn't even look remarkable or like any serious critique was given to greenlight it. More of the same wordy, boring Thaumiel classes.

Yeah, I don't see anything super special here. It's...okay? I guess? I wish it was worse, then we could poke fun at it but this is just kinda dull with a weird format screw near the end that isn't a format or a screw.

It was one of my favorite articles before the rewrite, but it's been a while since I read it and it was pretty wordy back then too. Blegh, just left a lukewarm taste in my mouth.

 

[ToS]

drop the sperging and check this out: Ihp and Locke rewrote Keter Duty. what do you think?

A power cord plugged into itself. Endless auto-fellatic rehashing, now with more cosmopolitan Keters. This is the same thing as corporations re-marketing their products to fit the day's aesthetics... as engaging as cereal mascots. edgelordlackofspacingtypethats2edgy4u, 10 years past its expiry date and right down the shelf from zalgo text.

The twin stale exhales of collapsing lungs. This is what happens when two executive-chef-sized egos try to make one dish; it comes out tasteless & hopelessly beige.

What will grow crooked, you can't make straight.

 

[LordSifr]

drop the sperging and check this out: Ihp and Locke rewrote Keter Duty. what do you think?

Spoiler: WARNING: SPERG RANT

IHP'S VERSION:
The usage of the Sephiroth was lame as fuck. The rough correlation between the meaning of each emanation and the purpose of each core was neat, I guess, but it's nothing compared to what was in the original. The first KD had a very smart interpretation of Thaumiel as an object class and gave a meaning and signficance to Keters: IHP's rewrite just contains Keters by generating its own anomalies to dominate it, when one of the most important elements of the original was that both cross-contained anomalies were incapable of besting each other.

Very personal take: the ending is cheesy as fuck and forced. Neither of those 001s were written to fit this bizarre perspective that they are opposites: especially the Scarlet King "consuming the narrative" feels stupid considering how his entire thematic schtick is not being able to do so. This would make more sense if the SK was a permanent threat that forced the narrative to develop, but it would still be nonsensical in the greater context of the Foundation: the SK is not the ultimate big bad. He doesn't even exist or is referred to in 90% of its body of work. I second ToS's assessment that this feels like autofellatio.

The end text just makes me roll my eyes. The original one meant something, it didn't feel like random edgy text placed there for the sake of conclusive melodrama. Way to misuse some of the most cryptic material in the original.

I'm also not convinced with the extremely shaky shoehorn of the "Keter Duty" concept in the Containment Procedures. Those conprocs mean literally nothing to the rest of the article and exist solely to justify "Keter Duty" in-universe. There is zero reason for them to exist that is addressed in the article.

What's sad is that these changes aren't even that big a deviation from the original.

SHAGGY'S VERSION:
LEAGUES more respectful to the original. I appreciate the aspects kept from the first version, including the tone of the cross-containment logs -- which by the way, are on occasion pretty smart, if they can get tiring after a while. I dislike how the Kabbalistic symbolism of the original seems to be handwaved away with one or two mentions, though.

Still not a fan of how "Keter Duty" appears as an in-universe concept: it makes little sense that they'd just throw Foundation undesirables at a machine keeping reality stable in case of failure, which I suppose could be resolved with just a little more explanation &/or implications.

The final cross-containment 001 log is way better than IHP's, too. It is framed in a way that makes much more sense and avoids the former's issues (past event rather than inevitable finality), while having an actually interesting non-meta non-melodramatic interaction take place. I have to point out that I'm not a huge fan of either proposal mentioned here, and I that I disapprove of how both authors have (knowingly or unknowingly so) repurposed the original Keter Duty to push their own 001 proposals, but I find this version to be an enjoyable read.

Reiterating this feeling for the conclusory note. Still a misuse of the original, but I think it's way smarter (nice crosslink).

What I don't quite get is why these have to be offsets of each other. What exactly is supposed to be the link between them? I catch that IHP's has more physical containment logs while Shaggy's has more conceptual ones, and that IHP's ending is about finality while Shaggy's is about rebirth (plus one is Site-100 and the other is Site-001) but not much more than that. All of these feel like contrivances, honestly, but I could be missing something.

 

[Baubius]

This is what happens when two executive-chef-sized egos try to make one dish; it comes out tasteless & hopelessly beige.

also amusing how they basically had to write two seperate versions and hodge-podge it into a single article. egos so big they couldn't work together lol, and you know they couldnt come to a conclusion over rewrite rights because it's fucking Keter Duty, any bigwig author would sacrifice an arm and a leg for an opportunity like that

 

[LordSifr]

also amusing how they basically had to write two seperate versions and hodge-podge it into a single article. egos so big they couldn't work together lol, and you know they couldnt come to a conclusion over rewrite rights because it's fucking Keter Duty, any bigwig author would sacrifice an arm and a leg for an opportunity like that

OH, this reminds me -- Shaggy passed by RPC Discord a while ago and asked for some good RPCs that were Gamma or above (basically Keter equivalents) to crosslink in his rewrite. Turns out IHP got mad at him and outright said no LOL

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Spoiler: WARNING: SPERG RANT

IHP'S VERSION:
The usage of the Sephiroth was lame as fuck. The rough correlation between the meaning of each emanation and the purpose of each core was neat, I guess, but it's nothing compared to what was in the original. The first KD had a very smart interpretation of Thaumiel as an object class and gave a meaning and signficance to Keters: IHP's rewrite just contains Keters by generating its own anomalies to dominate it, when one of the most important elements of the original was that both cross-contained anomalies were incapable of besting each other.

Very personal take: the ending is cheesy as fuck and forced. Neither of those 001s were written to fit this bizarre perspective that they are opposites: especially the Scarlet King "consuming the narrative" feels stupid considering how his entire thematic schtick is not being able to do so. This would make more sense if the SK was a permanent threat that forced the narrative to develop, but it would still be nonsensical in the greater context of the Foundation: the SK is not the ultimate big bad. He doesn't even exist or is referred to in 90% of its body of work. I second ToS's assessment that this feels like autofellatio.

The end text just makes me roll my eyes. The original one meant something, it didn't feel like random edgy text placed there for the sake of conclusive melodrama. Way to misuse some of the most cryptic material in the original.

I'm also not convinced with the extremely shaky shoehorn of the "Keter Duty" concept in the Containment Procedures. Those conprocs mean literally nothing to the rest of the article and exist solely to justify "Keter Duty" in-universe. There is zero reason for them to exist that is addressed in the article.

What's sad is that these changes aren't even that big a deviation from the original.

SHAGGY'S VERSION:
LEAGUES more respectful to the original. I appreciate the aspects kept from the first version, including the tone of the cross-containment logs -- which by the way, are on occasion pretty smart, if they can get tiring after a while. I dislike how the Kabbalistic symbolism of the original seems to be handwaved away with one or two mentions, though.

Still not a fan of how "Keter Duty" appears as an in-universe concept: it makes little sense that they'd just throw Foundation undesirables at a machine keeping reality stable in case of failure, which I suppose could be resolved with just a little more explanation &/or implications.

The final cross-containment 001 log is way better than IHP's, too. It is framed in a way that makes much more sense and avoids the former's issues (past event rather than inevitable finality), while having an actually interesting non-meta non-melodramatic interaction take place. I have to point out that I'm not a huge fan of either proposal mentioned here, and I that I disapprove of how both authors have (knowingly or unknowingly so) repurposed the original Keter Duty to push their own 001 proposals, but I find this version to be an enjoyable read.

Reiterating this feeling for the conclusory note. Still a misuse of the original, but I think it's way smarter (nice crosslink).

What I don't quite get is why these have to be offsets of each other. What exactly is supposed to be the link between them? I catch that IHP's has more physical containment logs while Shaggy's has more conceptual ones, and that IHP's ending is about finality while Shaggy's is about rebirth (plus one is Site-100 and the other is Site-001) but not much more than that. All of these feel like contrivances, honestly, but I could be missing something.

When you say sephiroth please tell me you don't mean the ff7 one winged angel.

 

[FreedomMussel]

OH, this reminds me -- Shaggy passed by RPC Discord a while ago and asked for some good RPCs that were Gamma or above (basically Keter equivalents) to crosslink in his rewrite. Turns out IHP got mad at him and outright said no LOL

On a side note, I find the use of Greek letters more intuitive and believable than an arbitrary mix of English, the Hebrew word for “crown”, a famous Greek mathematician, and pseudo-Latin/Hebrew for “God’s miracle”.

Also, I personally find the arbitrary jargon frustrating because it messes with the Google algorithm and ruins the public’s vocabulary.

When you say sephiroth please tell me you don't mean the ff7 one winged angel.

Judging by the context, it’s obviously referring to Kabbalah. They actually tried to explain the arbitrary jargon. I’d give them kudos if not for the fact that this was a band-aid for what was an arbitrary choice in the first place. What’s next, tie the object class name to the real life Euclid of Alexandria by making him the founder of the foundation?

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Judging by the context, it’s obviously referring to Kabbalah. They actually tried to explain the arbitrary jargon. I’d give them kudos if not for the fact that this was a band-aid for what was an arbitrary choice in the first place. What’s next, tie the object class name to the real life Euclid of Alexandria by making him the founder of the foundation?

...Context?

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No offense to you, but I'd bother it was from like..5 years ago but I don't even bother to read this bullshit soap opera this shit turned into. I just honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was an FF character in there at this point.

ETA: @Punished “Venom” pH for someone who dislikes these people you sure seem to care how people talk about then.

 

[FreedomMussel]

...Context?

I just skimmed the quote for relevant keywords. I’m not actually going to bother reading that shit either. If “sephirot” is mentioned, then it’s either Kabbalah or Final Fantasy.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

I just skimmed the quote for relevant keywords. I’m not actually going to bother reading that shit either. If “sephirot” is mentioned, then it’s either Kabbalah or Final Fantasy.

Oh I just making a joke about how I had no context because I want going to read it the first place like you lol, I'm leaning on it being FF because I don't see them understanding Kabbalah.

 

[LordSifr]

When you say sephiroth please tell me you don't mean the ff7 one winged angel.

To provide some context...

Spoiler: IMAGES & RANT

The one that is sideways is ripped from IHP's Keter Duty, while the other one is the original Sephiroth.

Basically the Sephiroth is a set of 10 attributes ("emanations") through which the Ein Sof (God) creates existence and several metaphysical realms. They are more or less associated with parts of the body and human experiences, but also have some symbological/allegorical meaning. This is all within the context of Jewish esoterism, AKA Kabbalah.

For instance, "Keter" (AKA "God's Crown") is pretty much an allusion to complete, united godhood and divine will, literally & metaphorically above what humankind can achieve (much like a crown is right above your head at all times). IHP made an insanely literal interpretation of this by making it a physical location that is unreachable and in which the essence of reality rests (save for the fact that it is actually reached within the article, thus defeating its own symbolism lol. unless it's somehow trying to imply the Foundation attained godhood in which case it's even worse.)

Similarly, "Malkhut" is interpreted as the entry point to the rest of the facility, as the mediating point between God's creation and the attributes of God: it's a moon that reflects God's shine rather than having one of its own. "Binah" and "Hakmah" are more irritatingly literal -- Binah means understanding so it's Sapient Containment, Hakmah means Wisdom so it's Conceptual Containment. Other relations continue in a similar vein, with each "Root" connecting containment cores being equally literal interpretations of how each Sephiroth emanation connects with another.

What's so frustrating about this interpretation is that it is permanently on-the-nose about referencing the superficial significance of the Sephiroth: it practically bastardizes the Kabbalah and its doctrine to sound and look deep, a la Evangelion.

This is in stark, stark contrast with the original KD. While still kind of a meh interpretation, it took every Keter object to be a kind of "brick" of reality that exists in a pair, fighting among each other in a cycle of self-containment. This is why the facility was termed Thaumiel class (the first Thaumiel object, actually) -- it refers to the inversion or shadow of the Sephiroth, which is the Qliphoth.

Thaumiel is the shadow of Keter: rather than unity it refers to the lack thereof, the division and conflict among equals. SCP-001 thus divides and sows conflict among brothers. What's a little odd about Keter Duty is that it seems to invert the Kabbalah -- Keter objects being released causes reality to break and fall apart into chaos, rather than to reconstitute from the chaos that Thaumiel provokes.

Apologies for the rant.