Sea Levels Are Rising Faster Than Most Pessimistic Forecasts - 'fearmongering scientists' undersold things once again

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-02/sea-levels-are-rising-faster-than-most-pessimistic-forecasts

Climate change is causing oceans to rise quicker than scientists’ most pessimistic forecasts, resulting in earlier flood risks to coastal economies already struggling to adapt.

The revised estimates published Tuesday in Ocean Science impact the two-fifths of the Earth’s population who live near coastlines. Insured property worth trillions of dollars could face even greater danger from floods, superstorms and tidal surges. The research suggests that countries will have to rein in their greenhouse gas emissions even more than expected to keep sea levels in check.

“It means our carbon budget is even more depleted,” said Aslak Grinsted, a geophysicist at the University of Copenhagen who co-authored the research. Economies need to slash an additional 200 billion metric tons of carbon — equivalent to about five years of global emissions — to remain within the thresholds set by previous forecasts, he said.

The researchers built on the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s models, many of which only consider the last 150 years, by incorporating data going back several centuries. The new observations show about a half-meter of sea rise by the end of the century can now be expected with just a 0.5 degree Celsius rise in temperatures. Oceans could rise more than 1 meter at 2 degrees Celsius, a trajectory that will be easily passed under current climate policies.

“The models we are basing our predictions of sea-level rise on presently are not sensitive enough,” Grinsted said. “To put it plainly, they don’t hit the mark when we compare them to the rate of sea-level rise we see when comparing future scenarios with observations going back in time.”

The conclusions follow last month’s warning that rising temperatures have melted 28 trillion metric tons of ice — equivalent to a 100 meter thick sheet of ice covering the entire U.K. — making the worst-case climate scenarios more likely. The new methodology for tracking sea level change could help insurance companies, real estate developers and city planners erecting tidal-defense systems.

“The scenarios we see before us now regarding sea-level rise are too conservative – the sea looks, using our method, to rise more than what is believed using the present method,” Grinsted said, adding that his team at the Niels Bohr Institute is in touch with the IPCC about incorporating its results in next year’s sixth Assessment Report.

Original paper: https://os.copernicus.org/articles/17/181/2021
Doi: 10.5194/os-17-181-2021

 

[AMERICA]

it's ok, we'll all be dead by then

 

[Blake Chortles]

Last hard numbers i saw on sea level is its rising 1-3 mm a year. So 300-1000 years to go up a meter.

A meter overnight would fuck a few places up, but even if the rates accelerated we are still talking decades to adjust.

 

[Übertroon]

Almost all physical examples I've seen given for the oceans rising has actually been coastline erosion rather than rising sea levels.

I live by the sea and the sea level is exactly where it was 20 years ago

 

[Sage In All Fields]

Scientist cope then, all the ice should be gone already:
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It might not all be gone, but there really isn't much left of it, scientists can't tell the future they make predictions based on existing trends, you shouldn't expect them to be accurate to within years.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

As always, I’ll take climate change seriously when China and India does and we ship birth control to Africa and Southeast Asia instead of food aid.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

As always, I’ll take climate change seriously when China and India does and we ship birth control to Africa and Southeast Asia instead of food aid.

It won't be long before someone shout "that's racist" if we suggest birth control to Africa and Southeast Asia.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

It won't be long before someone shout "that's racist" if we suggest birth control to Africa and Southeast Asia.

Everything I’ve proposed above is considered racist already. This is something white people like to inflict on each other while China and India fill in the vacuum.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

One detail who come in my mind is some scientists don't talk a lot because it don't fit the main narrative, is isolatic rebound or post-glacial rebound where some parts of the Earth still slowly rising after the Ice Age.

 

[Helvítis Túristi]

One detail who come in my mind is some scientists don't talk a lot because it don't fit the main narrative, is isolatic rebound or post-glacial rebound where some parts of the Earth still slowly rising after the Ice Age.

This is why I liked my marine science professor. Instead of being a propagandist, he would show evidence from both sides. There is a rise in land mass as the weight on them is removed, is also why people are worried about China constantly building cities with a zero population since that would lower the landmass.

 

[Idiotron]

Like I've said before on this website, the air and water pollution will fuck us up way before climate change does.

 

[Damocles_Sword]

I was reading an article about a proposed zero carbon law, and it brings back offsets. Basically when I, as an automation specialist, make it so if one of my clients doesn't have to waste so much fuel driving all over town 7 times a day to check meters, I can generate carbon credits (through some form of beauracy no doubt generating tons of paper and probably physical inspections). I can then go to a refinery or factory to sell them these credits for pure profit, and the refinery or factory can say they are carbon neutral or negative. It's literally not going to change a thing other than my bank account and create a new beauracy.

 

[CobraPlissken]

I grew up in a town only 2 meters above the sea level and as I always had an interest in science as a kid, it was something that I read about and it worried me a lot growing up. If the predictions were right, the town would be underwater by now.

A few decades later, I've yet to see anything change at all. Every pier and harbor is still at exactly the same level.

The only things that really changed were the weather that indeed seems warmer (but it could also be that we've become used to air conditioning, which wasn't widespread in my country until rather recently, so it's quite possible we've become more sensitive to the heat) and my interest in science, which is close to none nowadays.

The fact scientists were s as right about the sea levels as those doomsday preachers who exhort us to repent because the world will end in a given year made me become just as skeptical about the former ones as I already was about the latter ones.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

Good, let the coast cucks drown.

 

[The handsome tard]

Question, wasnt the world supposed to be like Atlantis since the FUCKING 70'S?!

Jesus Christ, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, Im an idiot, fool several generations, fuck our educational system.

For as much shit science likes to throw at religion over their "outdated beliefs" (tho only the ones that the media says its okay to insult, dont want to piss off any groups that might actually do them harm), science loves to throw their own doomsday predictions.

Seriously, when science gets shit wrong, people just shrug and say "oh well, at least we are prepared and we learned something...!" (what was learned isnt exactly clear). Off to the next doomsday prediction, am I right? Maybe THIS one will be correct.

 

[Kane Lives]

Question, wasnt the world supposed to be like Atlantis since the FUCKING 70'S?!

Jesus Christ, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, Im an idiot, fool several generations, fuck our educational system.

For as much shit science likes to throw at religion over their "outdated beliefs" (tho only the ones that the media says its okay to insult, dont want to piss off any groups that might actually do them harm), science loves to throw their own doomsday predictions.

Seriously, when science gets shit wrong, people just shrug and say "oh well, at least we are prepared and we learned something...!" (what was learned isnt exactly clear). Off to the next doomsday prediction, am I right? Maybe THIS one will be correct.

In the 70s, it was supposed to be global cooling, ice ages and peak oil (which keeps being pushed back as well).

Also note, there's a difference between the actual, real scientific method, and sciencism, which is basically the new atheistic religion.

The scientific method is all about questioning the evidence, and any theory you present should stand up to scrutiny. The current climate change (formerly global cooling, then global warming) lobby, is more sciencism, designed to grift gullible politicians and the masses. Notice how you aren't allowed to question any of the assumptions, even when the (((experts))) get it wrong year after year, or was found to have cherry-picked data. It's religious zealotry at its finest, and I'm starting to prefer bible-thumping over this horseshit.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Just a thought

https://twitter.com/WeiZhangAtmos/status/1356999836285952001

https://archive.is/wip/YzPC3

 

[TowinKarz]

One detail who come in my mind is some scientists don't talk a lot because it don't fit the main narrative, is isolatic rebound or post-glacial rebound where some parts of the Earth still slowly rising after the Ice Age.
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The US' worst earthquake* on record, the New Madrid Missouri Quake of 1811, a massive estimated 8.2 that caused the Mississippi to flow backwards for a day was theorized to be the result of glacial rebound of landmass since it happened in an area not known for tectonic activity.

* CONTINENTAL US, the 64' Good Friday Earthquake in Alaska hit at least a 9.0.

 

[Flexo]

Oh good, the yearly "in fifteen minutes we'll all drown" report is in. I don't care what people say, I've been reading the same doomsaying for the past thirty years and I have no plans on stopping!

Yep.

"The world is cooling!"
"What should we do?"
"Socialism!"

"No wait! The world is warming!"
"What should we do?"
"Socialism!"

"Excuse me, turns out the world is changing!"
"What should we do?"
"Socialism!"

Funny how the problem keeps changing but the solution is always the same, isn't it?

 

[knobslobbin]

Look it's been a good run but the Earth had to end one day anyway. Even if we do nothing our sun will turn red giant and destroy everything anyway, so why fight it? I say we burn this bitch to the ground, and a few chosen elite will possibly escape to mars or something. If not oh well, no species lives forever.

Covid has really put things in perspective, mostly how much I hate ppl.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

"Excuse me, turns out the world is changing!"

I hate this line when it comes to describing the aging, yet consistently-adapting ecosystem that is our entire planet because it carries with it a negative connotation instead of something positive since humans hate the idea of change when we're not the ones in control of it. And also since our comprehension levels are so fucked, it's the most simplified yet vague way of thinking so as to avoid having to get into geographical detail as to why the planet adapts and goes through cycles over time. They want to keep people in the dark as to how much the planet adapts to its inhabitants while also punishing its inhabitants for not adapting with it.

I'm sure there's evidence that something so life-changing as the Industrial Revolution may have forced the planet to adapt quicker than is naturally comfortable and we're only just now taking notice, but I don't believe the planet is dying or is trying to kill everyone. Sucks our material resources including the food chain is suffering as a result, but "adapt or die" is nature's motto, and Mother Earth provides for her children one way or another. We should still take care of her out of respect and gratitude since symbiotic relationships are a give-and-take, but punishing ourselves in a thinly-veiled attempt to reduce our population and our comfort levels is not helping the planet, nor is it a solution to anything. Natural disasters (no matter how severe) are more-or-less her way of paddling us for misbehaving, and there's really nothing we can do about that outside of learning to deal with her mood swings.