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My treatise on why you should own at least one revolver.

The humble revolver may seem outdated to the ignorant or simple minded. Yes they tend to have a lower capacity and slower reload than semi-automatics, but those two drawbacks get all the focus, none is paid to the many positives revolvers bring to the table, especially in a survival/sustainability scenario.

First lets look at reliability. Even the most reliable firearms still have the potential for issues. When it comes to semi-automatic handguns the most common issues all have to do with the semi-automatic mechanism. Failure to feed, failure to lock, failure to extract/eject, etc. A revolver is immune to all of these issues, its most common failure is related to the ammunition, a dud round. Furthermore when it comes to dealing with an issue the first solution for a semi-auto is a tap and rack drill, smack the bottom of the mag and rack the slide. This is a pretty simple drill that is quick to execute and solves most of the common problems, however it does require training and practice to turn it into the reflex it needs to be for it to be useful under pressure. For a revolver the solution is to keep pulling the trigger which indexes the cylinder to the next round which is hopefully not also a dud. This requires no training as it is simply the natural thing for someone to do even under pressure.

Next lets look at those drawbacks a little more closely. Capacity and reload speed, these are things semi-automatics excel at because of their magazines. However as we just discussed magazines also present the potential for problems. Furthermore, your high capacity and reload speed only last as long as you have pre-loaded magazines ready and on hand. If you didnt pre-load your magazines you're not going to be doing so while under fire, if they aren't on hand you're probably not going to be able to retrieve them in time, and if you run out of pre-loaded magazines you're back to square one. In that case even if you still have ammunition available its going to be practically useless. Compare that to a revolver and while the standard capacity of 6 rounds is a lot lower than the 18+ full size semi-autos can have it is a self contained 6 rounds. You can't lose your cylinder, your cylinder wont develop a bad spring or wonky feed lips, you can't run out of pre-loaded cylinders (unless you're using an old remington) and if you're left with nothing but loose ammo and an empty revolver you can still stay in the fight. Furthermore the reload may be slower but that can be mitigated by things like speed loaders or speed strips, I prefer the latter, and even without those it is faster to load a cylinder than an empty magazine.

Another nice benefit of the revolver is the peace of mind you can enjoy while leaving it loaded. Any magazine based firearm left loaded for too long will develop issues with its spring. Now fortunately thanks to advances in metallurgy and spring design what constitutes "too long" keeps increasing, and modern stuff can be left loaded for years with little risk of trouble. That said the potential is still there when its something revolvers are once again immune to.

I could go on and cover points like how high capacity handguns suffer from a shifting point of balance but I think y'all get the jist of it. Am I saying revolvers are the ultimate weapons? No. I'm just saying that they are far from the outdated relics many see them as, and in fact I would go as far as to say every gun owner should start with a revolver and keep at least one in their collection permanently.
 
My advice is to ignore every "self-defense" tip or course and just learn and train jiu jitsu. The best and most cost-effective way to put yourself in a situation where your opponent is not acting like a training dummy and is actually offering real resistance.
Any martial art is better than no martial art, but there's nothing better than a gun. That being said, assuming we're talking about places where you can't have a gun:
Every martial art is good at a couple things. BJJ is only one small part of the overaching Samurai education. It's not going to be perfect alone, because it was never meant to be alone. BJJ is a ground-fighting art. But when you're in a fight, especially a street fight, you really do not want to be on the ground. BJJ is not some silver bullet to all of your self-defense woes. Your best bet is to learn a variety of combat arts, to suit a variety of situations, if you're really worried about being jumped.
Generally though, if your goal is to learn to defend yourself (rather than just learning a combat sport for the love of the sport), you want to pick a combat sport which has historically been used either by guerilla fighters or by militaries. The Marine Corps Martial Arts Program teaches seventeen different fighting styles to every student. Which includes BJJ! But it's not just BJJ.

Edit: there is a difference between B JJ and JJ. Jiu Jitsu is much, much better than BJJ. I still advocate a variety of fighting styles, but at least Jiu Jitsu will serve you reasonably well. BJJ on the other hand is one of the least useful martial arts in a real street fight
 
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My treatise on why you should own at least one revolver.
"Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it does not work, you can always hit them with it." -- Boris the Blade, Snatch.

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The humble revolver may seem outdated to the ignorant or simple minded. Yes they tend to have a lower capacity and slower reload than semi-automatics, but those two drawbacks get all the focus, none is paid to the many positives revolvers bring to the table, especially in a survival/sustainability scenario.

First lets look at reliability. Even the most reliable firearms still have the potential for issues. When it comes to semi-automatic handguns the most common issues all have to do with the semi-automatic mechanism. Failure to feed, failure to lock, failure to extract/eject, etc. A revolver is immune to all of these issues, its most common failure is related to the ammunition, a dud round. Furthermore when it comes to dealing with an issue the first solution for a semi-auto is a tap and rack drill, smack the bottom of the mag and rack the slide. This is a pretty simple drill that is quick to execute and solves most of the common problems, however it does require training and practice to turn it into the reflex it needs to be for it to be useful under pressure. For a revolver the solution is to keep pulling the trigger which indexes the cylinder to the next round which is hopefully not also a dud. This requires no training as it is simply the natural thing for someone to do even under pressure.

Next lets look at those drawbacks a little more closely. Capacity and reload speed, these are things semi-automatics excel at because of their magazines. However as we just discussed magazines also present the potential for problems. Furthermore, your high capacity and reload speed only last as long as you have pre-loaded magazines ready and on hand. If you didnt pre-load your magazines you're not going to be doing so while under fire, if they aren't on hand you're probably not going to be able to retrieve them in time, and if you run out of pre-loaded magazines you're back to square one. In that case even if you still have ammunition available its going to be practically useless. Compare that to a revolver and while the standard capacity of 6 rounds is a lot lower than the 18+ full size semi-autos can have it is a self contained 6 rounds. You can't lose your cylinder, your cylinder wont develop a bad spring or wonky feed lips, you can't run out of pre-loaded cylinders (unless you're using an old remington) and if you're left with nothing but loose ammo and an empty revolver you can still stay in the fight. Furthermore the reload may be slower but that can be mitigated by things like speed loaders or speed strips, I prefer the latter, and even without those it is faster to load a cylinder than an empty magazine.

Another nice benefit of the revolver is the peace of mind you can enjoy while leaving it loaded. Any magazine based firearm left loaded for too long will develop issues with its spring. Now fortunately thanks to advances in metallurgy and spring design what constitutes "too long" keeps increasing, and modern stuff can be left loaded for years with little risk of trouble. That said the potential is still there when its something revolvers are once again immune to.

I could go on and cover points like how high capacity handguns suffer from a shifting point of balance but I think y'all get the jist of it. Am I saying revolvers are the ultimate weapons? No. I'm just saying that they are far from the outdated relics many see them as, and in fact I would go as far as to say every gun owner should start with a revolver and keep at least one in their collection permanently.
Very true but I will say there are a few things people should pay attention to with revolvers, mostly to make sure that the cylinder is aligned. Its not usually a huge problem unless you are wearing down the gun a lot but some people think that revolvers need no maintenance, and you don't want a blown up revolver and hand.
 
It's just different types of peppers right now, serrano and I'm trying to grow some cayenne peppers too. I've pickled some of the serranoes, and I've been drying the rest for my own blend of chili powder.

FIL grew up growing his own stuff so he's been helping us with getting a good garden going. I'm thinking peppers, cucumbers, some onions, maybe some garlic, and tomatoes should be good. Just stuff I know we use a lot in cooking. Also been making my own stock from left over bones or scraps from vegetables.
I love peppers but haven't had much success with them. At the moment I get them dirt cheap at the farmers market & make sambal (asian hot thing) with it which I can recommend doing if you eat a lot of rice based dishes.

That spread of crops seems like a great selection. Depending on where you live, stuff like arugula might be worth looking at, that stuff grows like weeds when the weather's good.
 
If you're serious about this sort of thing for the love of God learn how to make string and rope. Lots of preperbros act like there faggy paracord braclet will last them though an apocalypse when it's just a couple of feet. Even if you have a good supple of thick rope you continually break down into smaller ones you're still going to eventually run out. Just take a few hours to practice breaking down locally avaliable foliage into fiber and twisting and folding it into twine and rope.
 
I love peppers but haven't had much success with them. At the moment I get them dirt cheap at the farmers market & make sambal (asian hot thing) with it which I can recommend doing if you eat a lot of rice based dishes.
I got about 40 serranoes right now and the plant is still blooming. It's already paid for itself with how many peppers we got. I let some of them get ripe before I dried them. I can tell you they're a lot hotter then the ones we get at the store.

Depending on where you live, stuff like arugula might be worth looking at, that stuff grows like weeds when the weather's good.
I'll look in to that because I love arugula salads. Need to grow some herbs too.
 
I love peppers but haven't had much success with them. At the moment I get them dirt cheap at the farmers market & make sambal (asian hot thing) with it which I can recommend doing if you eat a lot of rice based dishes.

That spread of crops seems like a great selection. Depending on where you live, stuff like arugula might be worth looking at, that stuff grows like weeds when the weather's good.
I have quite a few things growing right now but in pretty small quantities I really want to get a big garden going when I buy a house. I had a lot of tomato plants but a few got hit by a fungal infection really early and you cant plant any nightshades in the same area when that happens so that fucked my tomato production. I've had a lot of luck with zucchini though got a couple huge fruits from mine so far.
 
I built a bunker in my backyard a few summers back as a little side project, I never thought I'd live in a world where I actually have to use it. Feels bad man.
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Learning to garden and canning is a good way of keeping food for long periods of time, if something were to happen. Also fishing can be somewhat sustainable but due to water pollution, I wouldn't suggest eating fish out of some rivers. After descaling and filleting the fish, take the waste and bury it into a garden, fish make excellent fertilizer.
 
Oh man, the diametric opposite of the Tranch thread.
 
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