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I've been listening to True Crime podcast. Serial Killers: do you find them interesting? If so, which ones? Do you think they're born, made, or all 3? Do you know any fun facts or want to deeply analyze a few, or maybe their fans? Are you an absolute deviant who wants to have sex with one and are crazy enough to defend it on the farmsp?

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I find them very interesting. The smart ones who get away with killing for years are almost always good stories to listen to, about how they eventually got caught.
I think serial killers (psychopaths) are made. Some people might have slight inherent dispositions to being psychos but for the most part it happens because of specific fucked up childhood conditions
 
The scariest ones dor me are probably Richard Lake and Charles Ng, The toybox killer, Robert Pickton and Dean Corll

Pickton is just an incredibly gruesome story, his whole live was disgusting and its one of those cases were is an entire community, no fucking way no one else knew that something fucked up was up at that pig farm. .

the other three are terrifying because it wasn't just killing someone , but restraining and videotaping them for long periods of time for all sorts of torture. In the case of the toybox i remember reading how a ton of hillbillies knew the family had drugged sex slaves and they participated in the torture, they even raped them at parties or watch as dogs fucked the women while they all had a beer. The tape transcripts and the photos of the sex dungeon are nightmare fuel. With Dean Corrl theres also the element of many people being accomplises, kids were turning in other kids for rape and torture, the concept of it happening in broad daylight for so long with that many people around actually getting used to it is nuts.Richard Lake and Charles NG are mongoloids, straight up clowns, makes the horrible situation the victims endured even worse, this is what truly does it for me.

Richard Ramirez was scary because of how mad and random he seemed. Most of the times he was oportunistic and went totally chaotic, he was always on drugs and really couldn't care less for anything, a wild beast with nothing inside.

What i can say in general about serial killers is that most of them are very boring people. Outside of killing they are pathetic, with little to none personality , no big ideals or nothing, no draculas or Hannibal Lecters, like seriously most are on the verge of unironic retardation . The cliche of the genius killer who fools everyone and makes it an artform is just a meme, most are not that calculating beyond something any random person can come up with to get away with crime , the only diference is most people will never actually want to commit those crimes, What makes them special is that they have these urges and they simply don't give a shit, only certain individuals can have such degeneracy mixed with an extreme lack of empathy, even mobsters and soldiers who kill have a justification other than "muh dick hard, don't care", even jamaal in the hood who will shoot up a rival gang is not as purposeless or nihilistic. Authorities are pretty fucking pathetic in almost every serial killer case, is very difficult to even link these types of cases, even when everything is doing their job its still a matter of luck since legit these types of crimes are difficult to pick up. Maybe nowadays is harder for a serial killer thanks to technology and how everyone is tracked all the time but they are still out there, in countries that are not as developed in criminalistics who fucking knows, theres many loose at any given time in the first world.
 
Last podcast on tahr left is pretty good for this.
Heheh, that's who I was listening to, I do recommend them. They get more political in later episodes but it doesn't usually factor into their serial killer episodes.
 
There is an alarming number of women who kill and then slice up their victim and stuff them into suit cases I have no idea why though. Also arsenic poisoning feels like it never actually worked.
 
I like the ones that are pretty much retards, their stories are so much more entertaining because it's almost always just a cavalcade of incompetence from the murders right through to the investigations and trials.
You'd like the story of Leopold and Leob then. Those guys, despite being scored incredibly high on their IQs are retarded and got caught less than 24 hours after their first murder.
 
I'd like to know more about Israel Keyes, but that ain't happening, lol.
Kill kits buried all over the United States, with three confirmed kills, but they reckon he killed as many as 9. I don't think he was as clever as he thought he was, considering the mistakes he racked up with Samantha Koenig.
Also, the photo online that is supposed to be the last one of Samantha Koenig, is a fake from a dramatic reconstruction. As far as I'm aware the original was never released.
 
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I just rewatched Bundychu's last interview after having not seen it in years.

When I was a stupid 16-year-old, I thought he came off as genuine. Upon a rewatch, he really seems like he's full of shit. (In my opion) He was still so concerned with optics during his final days, which is inappropriate but unsurprising. Before his verdict was read out, he maintained total innocence in a cocky sort of away.

He never concedes to expressing guilt or remorse in the interview — he alludes to it, but mostly seems inconvenienced to acknowledge the lives he's ruined. He refuses to say what he actually did with clarity.

The vaguest point of guilt has to do with the children victims who are mentioned. For some reason, he infamously never wants to talk about the kids he killed. Is that a guilt thing? I have no clue. It could be guilt, it could be about preserving his image too.

Probably the most generic serial killer I could've brought up, I know. He's the most recent one I've revisited.
 
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Probably the most generic serial killer I could've brought up, I know. He's the most recent one I've revisited.
No apologies, let's enjoy sperging about all aspects of serial killers without worrying about having to go for the hipster ones. Anyone who complains otherwise can bring up the more obscure ones themselves or stop being a buzzkill. :)

Richard Chase is very underrated in notoriety, guy was a complete spergy weirdo.
It's an utter tragedy and shame, he needed to be corralled sooner but his parents were too stubborn to admit it. He looks like several guys around my area, a normal bloke, but completely destroyed by his illness and spergary. It's a shame he went unchecked for so long, at least he was caught quickly enough. :(

See, this is why you never name your kid Dick Chase. If he doesn't turn out to be a great gay porno actor he's stuck murdering people for blood.
 
I’ve always been into true crime (to unfortunate results) but I always found mass/spree killers more interesting, which seems to be the contrarian opinion. No one makes podcasts about them so I guess that’s part of why. I would also assume randomly shooting up a supermarket/house of worship/school and then dying/going to prison forever has less of the back and forth ”how do we catch them” chase that makes true crime podcasts so appealing to others.

One serial killer who always interested me was (as above mentioned) Israel Keyes. Even for a serial killer that dude was uniquely fucked up. One of the only serial killers I can think of who was also thinking of doing a mass killing. So many weird details with that guy. The drawing he made that might represent his victims. The kill kits. All the weird fucking clues.

And I’m being cliche, but the zodiac killer. He’s clearly not a smart man but the fact that his codes have remained uncracked for nearly 60 years… And one being cracked just a year ago! I don’t think there’s any real clues in the remaining ones. He doesn’t seem like someone who would ever give any real possibility of being caught, just clues, but I’d like to know what it says.

This topic always attracts weirdos/hybristophiles/Couch Cucks but honestly it’s kinda funny to watch them fight. The greatest online true crime moment ever was when some 15 year old on instagram who wanted to fuck Adam Lanza managed to stumble upon his YouTube channel, undiscovered by anyone, 9 years after the fact.
 
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I binged a true crime channel couple of years back, the only thing I remember is that there's always a mother that fucked up with the killer while he grew up
 
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I take a lot of interest in cases that flew under the radar for extended periods of time. Most of the people we think of when we consider serial killers are like Dahmer and Ramirez: deviant degenerates with brains wired in ways that we can't begin to understand. What I like to consider are people like Leonard Lake and Charles Ng who created an entire rape dungeon and got away with kidnapping victims for a very long time, and then a very stupid mistake got them caught. As I recall, Charles stole a vice from a shop and Leonard came back around to apologize and pay for it. Shop owner wasn't having it and got the cops there. Lake assumed it was for the murders and committed suicide in the interrogation room after confessing and revealing Ng's identity.

Robert Pickton is along the same lines. He got away with kidnapping and killing prostitutes in Vancouver, Canada for many years. He chopped up his victims and fed them to his pigs. Beyond the pisspoor job by the RCMP and their ignorance of the situation is a supposition that Pickton couldn't have possibly worked alone. Not only is it incredibly difficult to coordinate what he did, but there were constant parties at his farm and Pickton is assumed to be too dull and stupid to have planned it all out and carried it out so effectively. There's an assumption that Pickton was a fall guy, both for the group that committed the murders and for the RCMP and VPD who desperately needed to close the case due to public backlash.
 
Meme answer, and I'm not sure how to say this without sounding edgy, but my favorite is the Zodiac Killer. I think he's more compelling than the others, and not just because he didn't get caught but because he really didn't seem like he killed for any of the reasons that are usually attached to serial killers. Most serial killers are psychopathic lunatics who just snapped and eventually got too cocky/their retardation finally caught up with them and fucked up and got caught. They all pretty much read this way, like BTK and such.

But Zodiac is interesting to me because his killing wasn't motivated by some deranged desire brought out by the rejection of a mother's love or a spurned love interest or whatever. If it was, he never said anything about that. The only motive that can be brought out of it all was that he just wanted to fuck with the police and figured the best way to do it was to become a serial killer. I think that's the real reason, above all others, why he's never been caught. His notes don't even really draw attention to the fact that his MO was attacking couples hooking up, but rather are all directed attacks towards police and taunting them to come find him.
 
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I take a lot of interest in cases that flew under the radar for extended periods of time. Most of the people we think of when we consider serial killers are like Dahmer and Ramirez: deviant degenerates with brains wired in ways that we can't begin to understand. What I like to consider are people like Leonard Lake and Charles Ng who created an entire rape dungeon and got away with kidnapping victims for a very long time, and then a very stupid mistake got them caught. As I recall, Charles stole a vice from a shop and Leonard came back around to apologize and pay for it. Shop owner wasn't having it and got the cops there. Lake assumed it was for the murders and committed suicide in the interrogation room after confessing and revealing Ng's identity.
That's what freaked me out so much about BTK, he was doing this stuff for years but at the same time he was by all accounts a loving husband and father to his children as well as Cub Scout leader and member of his church council. It's like there was this completely normal life built around a very evil core.

Really makes you wonder about people.
 
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That's what freaked me out so much about BTK, he was doing this stuff for years but at the same time he was by all accounts a loving husband and father to his children as well as Cub Scout leader and member of his church council. It's like there was this completely normal life built around a very evil core.

Really makes you wonder about people.
Richard Kulinski AKA the Iceman was charged with 17 murders and claims to have committed over 100. He loved his wife to bits, loved his daughter like any man would, and yet he was (or so he claims) a tool for the mob, and he ran around killing and beating people to repay debts and other mob-ish things like that. Very well spoken, and by all means a family man with character to boot but he was an ice cold murderer. Didn't give a single fuck about anyone but his wife and daughter, not a modicum of empathy. On top of that he's a hairtrigger with his rage and it can be seen in one of the interviews. The interviewer asks a question that Rich doesn't like and you can see his entire demeanour change and he basically says if we weren't in this situation I would have already jumped over the table and killed you for asking that.
 
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