Shakedown in Progress

[Piga Dgrifm]

A lot of the Tumblr cows either moved on to Twitter or are crossposting on multiple platforms. They're social media cancer that's metastasized well outside of Tumblr by now. It's still "lol Tumblr" behavior, just on different platforms. Merging all together is a good idea.
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The Tumblr board could probably be renamed social media snowflakes or something. Could help breathe some life back into it if it’s made clear threads can be made about anyone with that mindset regardless of where they primarily post their stuff.

 

[Xerxes IX]

The way I see it Tumblr is a specific mentality, not necessarily the site itself. Shifting the focus onto other sites would be good though because most Tumblr users with that mentality are under 18, most adults like that focus on Twitter instead.

 

[Audit]

I'm of the opinion that tumblr deserves its own board because its a community unto itself with many sub-divisions within it, making it much too large and diverse to be contained within a single megathread on the community watch board.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

I would also say I've seen good results come from having a "mod approval" mode for certain posters. Essentially a mod has to vet their post before it's visible. It's a lot of work for the mods, but it's has the effect of discouraging shitposting AND ban drama... because if you're banned after going through that, there's no arguing whether you deserved it.

Regarding mod reports, I'd prefer an atmosphere where we report anything that looks fishy and let the mods sort it out. Can we make that the official rule?

 

[Darwin Watterson]

I personally think that the board that’d benefit most from a restructuring is the Chris board.

To say that he’s long since been drained dry is like saying that the sky is blue. I agree with the proposal to keep most things contained in a megathread, unless something of real significance were to happen.

Making a thread for every little thing Chris does just reeks of an unwillingness to let go of the “good old days” and desperate attempts to will him back into relevance. The only reason I don’t advocate for simply archiving the board altogether is because Chris has become significantly more active since 2015 when all he did was post shit on Facebook, and that’d still be enough to spawn a 15 page thread here.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Might be nice to give new users a simple page of "don't do the following stupid shit" to help them along. I got my willy slapped once or twice for stuff without knowing it was verboten. Some were subjective calls "the meme you did was shitty" and others were more black and white but... selectively enforced (image\gif responses). Something simple like "no one words \ image reactions" might be useful to have at the top, just to make it easier for mods?

CWC page should be treated like a toxic waste zone and only waded into to nuke particularly nasty mutants, like those who come in to shill their stupid channels etc

Russell Greer page is dysfunctional but probably unfixable.

 

[Meowthkip]

I'm of the opinion that tumblr deserves its own board because its a community unto itself with many sub-divisions within it, making it much too large and diverse to be contained within a single megathread on the community watch board.

Tumblr is dying off, though, as a site. The number of users are dwindling and older users are seeking out other social media sites.

I just recently moved the Glip/PurpleKecleon thread to Animal Control because she hasn't had a Tumblr presence in years, even though Tumblr has shaped both her attitudes and her content. Rory/Rcdart's thread still in the Tumblr subforum because, even though she no longer uses the site, she remains relevant there, moreso than Glip.

There's still plenty of things happening on Tumblr, but we're not getting much new blood on the board and Tumblr users are terrified of us, so they're reluctant to come here and share the craziness that other users would otherwise miss. We mostly get new threads only when something really big goes down, something that goes beyond fandom circles, or on larger trends in the community. Like, we've had discussion on how terrible the Voltron fandom is on Tumblr, but there's not a single thread on anybody who would be considered as part of the core of that rotten apple. A part of that is probably because so many Tumblr users blend together after a while and there's not a lot to make them stand out from one another, but I feel like there has to be some good shit out there we're just not coming across.

 

[Done]

Russell Greer page is dysfunctional but probably unfixable.

It's very fixable if someone like @neger psykolog comes in, someone who has no hesitation to slap people with the 'threadbanned 4 autism' brand. That's how the DSP board got on its current upwards trend.

Russell is a great cow, and it's a crime that his thread is as unreadable as it is now.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

I personally think that the board that’d benefit most from a restructuring is the Chris board.

To say that he’s long since been drained dry is like saying that the sky is blue. I agree with the proposal to keep most things contained in a megathread, unless something of real significance were to happen.

Making a thread for every little thing Chris does just reeks of an unwillingness to let go of the “good old days” and desperate attempts to will him back into relevance. The only reason I don’t advocate for simply archiving the board altogether is because Chris has become significantly more active since 2015 when all he did was post shit on Facebook, and that’d still be enough to spawn a 15 page thread here.

Agreed here. It would be nice if there were something in between a sub forum and a megathread.

 

[LahLahBlackSheep]

I am admittedly very new but I think you and the mod/admin team do an amazing job and I'm sure these new promotions will continue to do well. I've seen many a thread where you guys have popped in and deleted or mod hatted. For what this board is I find it very pleasant and not scary like some. I hope you guys can continue and get it to where you want it and I support you

 

[Cato]

It's very fixable if someone like @neger psykolog comes in, someone who has no hesitation to slap people with the 'threadbanned 4 autism' brand. That's how the DSP board got on its current upwards trend.

Russell is a great cow, and it's a crime that his thread is as unreadable as it is now.

I'm not exaggerating when I say I think that the majority of the regulars in that thread would need outright bans to fix it. They are mongoloids who absolutely will not follow any rules or norms. As evidenced by the fact that everywhere else on the site everyone agrees that thread is an unreadable abortion, yet almost nobody in the thread itself thinks there is any problem at all, and they have actively resisted all attempts at reforming it and explicitly claimed they think it is great as is. And a cursory glance at the voting patterns there shows that repetitive, low effort, no content, a-loggy posts stating things that others have said 1000 times are well received and rewarded there.

It really is a question of whether the powers that be want to cater the thread to the cultists or to everyone else. But I don't even blame the staff for abandoning that thread, because it would be a stupid amount of work to purge the idiots and deal with the ensuing drama, just for one thread about one cow.

 

[Bryan Dunn]

I'm not exaggerating when I say I think that the majority of the regulars in that thread would need outright bans to fix it. They are mongoloids who absolutely will not follow any rules or norms.

To be honest, you can say this about the DSP section as well. Only that, in the DSP section we tend to make threads on faggots who cross the line repeatedly while others(majority of posters in DSPs subsection) just "skirt the line" enough to avoid getting slapped with a big ass verified tag to commend there dedication to the Goutman himself. I feel bad for @neger psykolog but he gets the job done. Good dude, same with @Clown Doll @JSGOTI @Smutley and afew others.

 

[DICKPICSRUS]

My favorite boards are
A&H
Tumblr
Community watch

The A&H board is pretty shit with all the political sperging. Even though it has potential to find some good cows (Randy stair, fuckyou)

My idea is to move all the useless post into one board called " The useless post board" -things not to post. To make an example out of them.

 

[neger psykolog]

It's very fixable if someone like @neger psykolog comes in, someone who has no hesitation to slap people with the 'threadbanned 4 autism' brand. That's how the DSP board got on its current upwards trend.

Russell is a great cow, and it's a crime that his thread is as unreadable as it is now.

I'm not exaggerating when I say I think that the majority of the regulars in that thread would need outright bans to fix it. They are mongoloids who absolutely will not follow any rules or norms. As evidenced by the fact that everywhere else on the site everyone agrees that thread is an unreadable abortion, yet almost nobody in the thread itself thinks there is any problem at all, and they have actively resisted all attempts at reforming it and explicitly claimed they think it is great as is. And a cursory glance at the voting patterns there shows that repetitive, low effort, no content, a-loggy posts stating things that others have said 1000 times are well received and rewarded there.

It really is a question of whether the powers that be want to cater the thread to the cultists or to everyone else. But I don't even blame the staff for abandoning that thread, because it would be a stupid amount of work to purge the idiots and deal with the ensuing drama, just for one thread about one cow.

idk I think that there are different approaches with moderation for different problems.

Usually on most websites when you ban someone you shouldn't make it a public thing, but I try to at least let everyone know why a user way banned when its something significant so people actually understand the reasoning for their ban.

Banning and punishing everyone is almost never a good solution, its more productive to establish what kind of quality people should be aiming for when they post.

The DSP subforum has the added advantage that if someone gets threadbanned then they can still post in all the other threads.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

I’m a big fan of the A&H board, by and large. Getting @Cricket as a mod is good news. While someone suggested locking a thread at a certain time, I feel like the earnest threads with legitimate discussion die on their own naturally. The problem, as had been pointed out, is the circle jerking and sperging that occur in some of the threads. I, for one, look forward to our new overlord @Cricket to smack that shit down.

 

[Darwin Watterson]

Not to start anything but why do my posts get deleted when I offer to help, but other people’s don’t? Just a question, is all.

 

[Cato]

Usually on most websites when you ban someone you shouldn't make it a public thing, but I try to at least let everyone know why a user way banned when its something significant so people actually understand the reasoning for their ban.

I respectfully disagree about not making things public as a general rule. I think public ban and warning reasons are pretty much always a good thing to help educate people on what is and isn't considered acceptable, before you need to take mod action on them as well.

Banning and punishing everyone is almost never a good solution, its more productive to establish what kind of quality people should be aiming for when they post.

Agreed and I normally am fully on board with what @AnOminous wrote about being conservative about banning people. My opinion in the case of the Greer thread is unique in that there is a pervasive, insular culture problem in that thread that has already repeatedly proven immalleable to softer approaches to moderation.

 

[Monika H.]

All staff who've not been active in moderation or in the moderation area of the board have been demoted.

I am going to assign at least one person to manage each board and if I can't find a moderator for that board I am just going to close it.

I also want people across the site to begin actively using the report button to report threads that have gone off the rails and report posts which offer nothing to discussion. The rule "Don't post if you have nothing to say. Don't post for attention. Further the conversation in some way." applies to every board on this site, except the one hidden shitposting board. Single word replies are almost never acceptable. Posts that just say "This." or so-called "empty quoting" posts are never acceptable. Fucking stop it.

I am tired of hearing people complain about various issues they have with site quality while doing nothing about it. Any fucking halfwit can complain, but we already have the machinations in place to actually deal with quality problems if people actually choose to use them.

Report buttons are on every post. Use them.
Talk to staff is available for every user. If a problem is complicated and requires explanation, use it.

Be the change you want to see, faggot.


Board Tzars
Lolcows - ???
Lolcow General - ???
CWC - @The American Hedgehog
Amberlynn - @Null
Brianna Wu - This board is hidden but I'm probably going to open it today and put @Smutley on top because he wants to pound that gash so hard
DSP - @neger psykolog
Phil - @Smutley?

Community Watch - @Cricket
Animal Control - @Golden Compass, @InLivingTuna, @yawning sneasel, @Feline Darkmage
Beauty Parlor - @CasualSeppuku, @Broken Pussy, @Melchett
L&L LLP - @Null
Salt Mine - @OwO What's This?. Again. For now.
Sisterwood - @Ride, @zedkissed60, @yawning sneasel, @Feline Darkmage, @Smutley
Tumblr - @Meowthkip

A&H - @Cricket
Deep Thunks - ???

Color coded: Green is what the board needs to be (not 'good' since 'good' is not what I'm looking for), orange is problemed, red is shit, purple is idk.

Essentially, the supervisors for a board should both be able to prune shitposting and stimulate discussion, as well as report serious systemic problems upwards. The DSP and BP supervisors do this perfectly. I only occasionally read threads from those boards but I get a general sense of how they're doing because people actually tell me.

I'm debating how I want to proceed with the others. The CWC board is probably the one in the worst shape and I don't know what there is to do with it. Stricter moderation isn't going to fix the CWC board because Chris himself has become boring, but if I ever see someone joining the forum to advertise their storefront of shit they bought from chris to resell at a higher price, I am absolutely going to lose my shit.

Here starts our very own Night of the Long Knives.

 

[Jaded Optimist]

I guess my opinion on Disco is the opposite of most here. I think one of the problems is the megathreads. When I go there I'd rather see 5 new threads so I can get the gist of things quickly. I hate having to wade through 50 new pages of one megathread to see 5 new pieces of content. That's the same reason why the Greer thread is annoying and I wish he still had a sub forum.

That being said, Chris is pretty boring now and the real problem is shitposts.

 

[The Demon]

alright, i'll report stuff when i see it