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TheIceCreamMan said:
Turns out the Shane Train...had brakes. :\

That being said, yeah it was kind of going nowhere slow so yeah whatever fuck it man. It's not like @Null is closing threads left right and center, it's one stupid thread with a bunch of stupid bullshit in it, yeah it was funny but there's a lot of funny to be found. Lets go find new cows I guess? We'll start with @KingofManga420 :tomgirl:
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Everyone go fund his patreon so we can see what secret things he's posting :ween:
 
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Dr. Meme said:
We should make it so only a few people can interact with cows because otherwise it becomes a shitfest where people start crying because a guy with severe autism wont acknowledge their passive aggressive insult.

People seem to forget this is a documentation website, not a scream at the exceptional individual forum for enter fans.
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I like your sentiment, but disagree with the opinion because unlike the CWCki, the Lolcow wiki is more fact-based than humour-based, ergo most of the fun is happening in the Lolcow discussion threads. Like, the Stray Sheep thread petered out and isn't probably that funny in retrospect when you only asses the facts that happened, but when the whole :spudking: thing was playing out, it was amazing. Stray Sheep was never really a lolcow I was personally interested in, but people had a ton of fun with the craziness that transpired.

Now, I think a lot of people think that some threads really suffer from everyone wanting to be the greatest troll in existence and get the Lolcow to chimp out, while in reality most of the time only a select few people can milk them. But the thing is, you can almost never predict who that's going to be who gets the reaction out of the lolcow, that's why equal opportunity for thread participation is important. And yeah, some threads may become embarrassing shitshows when people can't simply cool their autism jets, but for a lot of people those threads are less about the actual content, and more about the spur-of-the-moment fun that's derived from one-upping a cow verbally - again, not my bag of doritos, but people like to enjoy their cows in different ways. There's imo no solid guideline that can apply to cows, even ones from similar backgrounds, and that's why active mod intervention and, when the administration calls for it, the termination of the thread until it's deemed safe for reopening is the best way to go about it. The sad thing is, mods tried at several occasions to curb the excessive 'tism in the Shaner thread, but they were ignored.
 
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I don't want to get all spergy rules-lawyery model-UNish about it, but what this place really needs, more than anything, is the rule of law. That's not to say democracy, just simply a clear set of rules that the whole place operates by, top to bottom.

What we have now is capriciousness. Far too often something will get changed simply because @Null gets fed up with the way it currently is. Shaner thread, images in chat, ween and A-log word filters, "overstaffed".

I don't care whether or not I or anyone else actually gets any agency, any say in what goes on. I don't care about accountability. What I do care about is whether or not the decisions which end up affecting me are taken transparently and according to clearly-defined principles or rules.

"I'm fed up of seeing..." just isn't good enough.
 
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2339 said:
What we have now is capriciousness. Far too often something will get changed simply because @Null gets fed up with the way it currently is. Shaner thread, images in chat, cool guy and nice bloke word filters, "overstaffed".
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I don't mind some of the whimsical stuff like word filters, but whoever said upthread it's messed up that a thread can get locked just because a small group of people don't find it funny was spot on. It's pretty obvious null has a proclivity toward certain cows. Holden is allowed to break containment and derail threads with autism all the time. I don't find a schizophrenic Croatian shouting about rape apes to the tune of 10+ replies in a random thread particularly funny any more, but it's allowed to happen and Holden's on his 3rd thread while Shaner's is getting threatened even though it's wildly popular. Just look at the banner at the top of the lolcow page. The Wizardchan thread isn't very active and has very few responses, but it's a pet cow to null and some of the other admin so it gets special attention. He tried to organize trolling against Vade, going against his own forum rules just because he really hates Vade. There was the whole tranny thread debacle. Someone mentioned the Shaner thread didn't get featured for very long at all, I don't know if that was a quirk of whatever code spotlights hot threads or it was personal bias, but the fact that the latter is entirely likely kinda shows there's something wrong here. And it's fine to have some slight bias toward what you find funny, it's not like it can be helped, but when it interferes with site decisions in a manner such as this it's like.. really?
 
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melty said:
I don't mind some of the whimsical stuff like word filters, but whoever said upthread it's messed up that a thread can get locked just because a small group of people don't find it funny was spot on. It's pretty obvious null has a proclivity toward certain cows. Holden is allowed to break containment and derail threads with autism all the time. I don't find a schizophrenic Croatian shouting about rape apes to the tune of 10+ replies in a random thread particularly funny any more, but it's allowed to happen and Holden's on his 3rd thread while Shaner's is getting threatened even though it's wildly popular. Just look at the banner at the top of the lolcow page. The Wizardchan thread isn't very active and has very few responses, but it's a pet cow to null and some of the other admin so it gets special attention. He tried to organize trolling against Vade, going against his own forum rules just because he really hates Vade. There was the whole tranny thread debacle. Someone mentioned the Shaner thread didn't get featured for very long at all, I don't know if that was a quirk of whatever code spotlights hot threads or it was personal bias, but the fact that the latter is entirely likely kinda shows there's something wrong here. And it's fine to have some slight bias toward what you find funny, it's not like it can be helped, but when it interferes with site decisions in a manner such as this it's like.. really?
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Wildly popular is right. I just checked out the view counts for that thread and compared it to how many Sluthate and Marjan's two closed threads have gotten altogether and it has already exceeded those on an individual level in a relatively short timespan. People are naturally gonna have different preferences for lolcows, but on an objective level, there's been quite a lot of interest in that thread right now and as stated earlier, some people have even bought supporter memberships due to what's happened in there. I see a great opportunity for the site to raise more funding when these sorts of threads come about and to expand upon the site's name recognition.
 
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AN/ALR-56 said:
will the wiki have mentions of missile trains sent to kill you?
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I think I see what you're trying to do, but I don't feel that my post about the "missile trains" was attention whoring. I went out of my way to create something to contribute to the thread that built upon Len's assumption that his pleas were heard by Anonymous/FBI at the time were being heard. I was referring to people who, during the "doxing" feud for example, posted nothing other than "I can't wait to see who Len doxxes me as" or "dox me next Len".

If this was a genuine question, I am terribly sorry for being an asshole about it. :(
 
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Super Collie said:
I think I see what you're trying to do, but I don't feel that my post about the "missile trains" was attention whoring. I went out of my way to create something to contribute to the thread that built upon Len's assumption that his pleas were heard by Anonymous/FBI at the time were being heard. I was referring to people who, during the "doxing" feud for example, posted nothing other than "I can't wait to see who Len doxxes me as" or "dox me next Len".

If this was a genuine question, I am terribly sorry for being an asshole about it. :(
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it was genuine,but real epic funny posts like that one shouldn't be bann,we should ban those generic ''senpai please notice me'' or ''answer about your diaper fetish'' generic posts.
 
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AN/ALR-56 said:
it was genuine,but real epic funny posts like that one shouldn't be bann,we should ban those generic ''senpai please notice me'' or ''answer about your diaper fetish'' generic posts.
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I feel a little bad, because I was indirectly responsible for kicking off the whole "please dox me" thing, but at the time it actually provided some valuable insight into Shaner's mindset - he was desperately trying to fit the people on the thread into people he knew in reality, and at the time didn't have much interest in those who didn't. The problem was, everyone got in on it and it quickly became a clusterfuck.

That's the whole reason the thread was such a mess, actually. A few people doing something is okay. A bunch of people doing it gets unmanageable and unfunny. Unfortunately, there's no easy way to regulate that.
 
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