Diseased Shippers, Anti-Shippers, and Shipping Wars - When fictional characters fucking each other is a political statement

I think John Boyega has also mentioned thinking Stormpilot is a cute pairing, as well as a couple other ships (I know for a fact he likes Finn/Kylo because Adam Driver is his mancrush). I don't think he's heartbroken about it not being canon though, because he gets a shitton of money either way.

John is a good guy, I don't have the screencaps on hand but I remember a FinnRey messaging him once after TLJ being like HOW DARE THEY TEASE THE EVIL RACIST REYLO JOHN DO SOMETHING!!!1! and he replied more or less telling them it's just a space wizard movie and it isn't serious business.

The ST cast all seem to be pretty decent people, and while some of them have talked about ships they enjoy (especially Kelly) they aren't insane about it like the Fandom and have even tried to tell the Fandom to calm the fuck down on occasion.
 
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Except Finn/Rose and Poe and the new girl are interracial ships
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Apparently cosplaying a space wizard that smooches an emo space wizard means you're dressing up as a Nazi supporter.

The whiny clickbait about how their ship sinking/their least favorite ship becoming canon is a serious social issue has also begun.

I also like how they're starting to bash Rey solely because she ended up liking a character they hated. They can act like woke feminists all the want but the shallow misogynistic weeb fangirl tedencies still shine through.
 
I've never really been into shipping (not that I've been involved in a lot of fandoms either). Seeing shit like this is what turns me off from the idea of it AND the entire fandom itself. There have been characters in franchises that I like and who I have thought would be cute together, but it's never gone beyond that. I can only think of one time I liked a "pairing" and it ended up being canon (Karasuma and Irina in AssClass).

Now that I think about it, all of my favorite couples or "pairings" as they say are canon.

I do kinda ship Team Rocket from the Pokemon anime, though. But that's also somewhat canon.
 
I've never really been into shipping (not that I've been involved in a lot of fandoms either). Seeing shit like this is what turns me off from the idea of it AND the entire fandom itself. There have been characters in franchises that I like and who I have thought would be cute together, but it's never gone beyond that. I can only think of one time I liked a "pairing" and it ended up being canon (Karasuma and Irina in AssClass).

Now that I think about it, all of my favorite couples or "pairings" as they say are canon.

I do kinda ship Team Rocket from the Pokemon anime, though. But that's also somewhat canon.
Honestly most Fandoms it's more trouble than its worth to get into shipping. If you do its best to just quietly read fic/enjoy art and not really interact with anyone. Occasionally you find a Fandom that's pretty chill about shipping (usually smaller ones that don't have many shippers), but for most Fandoms the shipping part especially is a raging garbage fire.

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Sorry to double post, but John Boyega has once again descended from the heavens on twitter to try and tell FinnReys to calm the fuck down
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Honestly actors/creators telling insane shippers to chill is one of the best thing ever and needs to happen more.
 
While I love shipping to me it just adds extra fun by speculating about unsaid motives and/or thinking what sort of couples my favorite characters could make. Me and my sister had a blast while watching Green eggs and ham, and making fun of how creepy Sam came across when though that he was interested in Guy romantically and/or sexually. Sure I take some of my OTPs more seriously but I’m always aware that in the end it’s just a theory. If it happens in canon cool, if not also cool as long as what happens isn’t really stypid or boring. Especially since I gravitate towards little to no romance in canon fandoms, I have such a hard time understanding these wierdos who go ape over their ship not getting the canon.
 
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LMAO, the titdespair of finnpoe fangirls is hilariously delicious. bonus for trying to shove Poe’s ex girlfriend away by pegging her (lol) as a lesbian just so Rey can take her pussy away from the hot bois...
 
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LMAO, the titdespair of finnpoe fangirls is hilariously delicious. bonus for trying to shove Poe’s ex girlfriend away by pegging her (lol) as a lesbian just so Rey can take her pussy away from the hot bois...
Nothing said these characters can't be bi. I thought SJWs were always up in arms about bi erasure?

Saw TROS today btw. Overall I'm satisfied and I'm glad Disney decided to canonize the pairing the SJWs hated the most.
 
Nothing said these characters can't be bi. I thought SJWs were always up in arms about bi erasure?

Saw TROS today btw. Overall I'm satisfied and I'm glad Disney decided to canonize the pairing the SJWs hated the most.
Depends on the SJWs. A good chunk of them actually HATE bisexuality because it's "straight passing," and another chunk only accept it as an excuse to claim a same-sex pairing is canon.
 
"DISNEY KILLED MY BELIEF IN HAPPY ENDINGS!"

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(This was actually part of the summary of a fanvid on Youtube) (archive: https://archive.li/AoKRL)

You know, I have some level of sympathy with Reylo shippers considering that they get accused of everything under the sun from pedophilia to incest to rape apologism to abuse (for literally nothing other than shipping Reylo) but I can't lie that rise of skywalker has rustled the jimmies of the cringiest parts of the Reylo fandom.

Also, more whining from the Stormpilot fandom that the male character they spontaneously decided was gay is, in fact, not:

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"I am literally That Family Member that has to start a fight every holiday instead of keeping my mouth shut."

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Depends on the SJWs. A good chunk of them actually HATE bisexuality because it's "straight passing," and another chunk only accept it as an excuse to claim a same-sex pairing is canon.

That's literally why.

All they have to do is say "Oh, well, okay then- Poe is bisexual. He dated a girl once upon a time, and now he's with Finn." And if you called them on it, I'm sure that's exactly how a lot of them would cover their asses- but secretly they're furious that their ~uwu precious gayboy of color~ had sexytimes with a woman once upon a time.
 
"DISNEY KILLED MY BELIEF IN HAPPY ENDINGS!"

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(This was actually part of the summary of a fanvid on Youtube) (archive: https://archive.li/AoKRL)

You know, I have some level of sympathy with Reylo shippers considering that they get accused of everything under the sun from pedophilia to incest to rape apologism to abuse (for literally nothing other than shipping Reylo) but I can't lie that rise of skywalker has rustled the jimmies of the cringiest parts of the Reylo fandom.

Also, more whining from the Stormpilot fandom that the male character they spontaneously decided was gay is, in fact, not:

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"I am literally That Family Member that has to start a fight every holiday instead of keeping my mouth shut."

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That's literally why.

All they have to do is say "Oh, well, okay then- Poe is bisexual. He dated a girl once upon a time, and now he's with Finn." And if you called them on it, I'm sure that's exactly how a lot of them would cover their asses- but secretly they're furious that their ~uwu precious gayboy of color~ had sexytimes with a woman once upon a time.
I ‘ve been seeing this around twitter too and I literally don’t understand why so many insist that finnpoe is canon or even close. I haven’t even seen TROS yet but they only had like two scenes together in TFA, lol.
Not to mention both of them are attracted to women, to some degree? But like you said, they use the bisexual card to reinforce their ship, and yet that card is only played for gay ships.
 
This may be a powerlevel, but I've been in fandom for almost two decades. I never even thought about Reylo as a ship except for a brief second when I saw TFA, but the autist troll in me just has to write something fluffy and healing to A: get over Ben getting smoked and B: piss off the antis. I love the hate they spew tbh. They can't bother me because they're usually edgy children, and when I get hate comments on my pieces about how disgusting I am it just makes me Palpatine cackle and get back to work at making sure that I stay on those do not read lists lmao
 
I never understood why people get so butt over a character’s sexuality. Sure I can kinda get it being bit of a bummer but like how is it going stop you from just shipping anyway? Many many of fanfics I have enjoyed have had noncanon ships and some of those go directly against canon. Like in Naruto one best fics I have read is about Gaara and Lee adopting kids. It’s an older fic but even then it was very much alternative universe and still absolutely great. One of best parts of fanon like fanart and fanfics is that you get see stuff that for one reason or another would not happen canon.
 
I ‘ve been seeing this around twitter too and I literally don’t understand why so many insist that finnpoe is canon or even close. I haven’t even seen TROS yet but they only had like two scenes together in TFA, lol.
Not to mention both of them are attracted to women, to some degree? But like you said, they use the bisexual card to reinforce their ship, and yet that card is only played for gay ships.

Slash Goggles, mostly. Two Attractive Men + The Odd Bit of Meaningful Interaction = They Must Be Gay. It'd be less irritating if people held it as a personal view and didn't shove it in anyone's faces as "truth", but that's too much to hope for in Current Year.

As a side-note, a really interesting phenomenon (at least, that I've noticed) in the Star Wars fandom is the lack of obvious conflict between FinnRey and FinnPoe shippers. Weird, right, since their respective ships can't both happen at once? You'd think they'd butt heads with each other as much as they do with the Reylos.

My suspicion as to why that is, is that it's a sort of Mutually Assured Destruction scenario: The FinnRey shippers can't snipe at the FinnPoe shippers because they'll get accused of homophobia (between two ~men of color~, no less); and the FinnPoe shippers can't get too pissy with the FinnRey shippers because they'll be accused of racism (I mean, why else would you have a problem with a black man being shipped with a white woman?) Meanwhile, they can go after Reylo all the want because it's two white people in an opposite sex relationship.

I never understood why people get so butt over a character’s sexuality. Sure I can kinda get it being bit of a bummer but like how is it going stop you from just shipping anyway? Many many of fanfics I have enjoyed have had noncanon ships and some of those go directly against canon. Like in Naruto one best fics I have read is about Gaara and Lee adopting kids. It’s an older fic but even then it was very much alternative universe and still absolutely great. One of best parts of fanon like fanart and fanfics is that you get see stuff that for one reason or another would not happen canon.

The main complaint is "MUH LIFE-SAVING REPRESENTATION", more often than not. The deeper root of it, I think, goes back to the fact that in the age of social media where you can actually talk to your favorite author/actor/director on Twitter, fandom's developed a very sense of entitlement because they feel they have more influence than they actually do. I've been running in fandom circles for many, many moons, and I can say from experience that in Ye Olde Days, people were much more respectful of the boundaries between creator and fan. Not all of them, of course, but most.

These irritated shippers will indeed go right ahead and ship as they please, regardless of canon- and they are welcome to, that's what fanfiction is for!- but like any toddler denied what they've been screaming for, they will make sure that you know how furious they are that they didn't get exactly what they wanted exactly when they wanted it.

I apologize, I meant to edit my previous post and accidentally double-posted. Here's some more Stormpilot denial to make up for it:

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Actually it's because Disney has to market to China and Russia, but okay.
 

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