Shit I actually need to recover from the mass deplatforming campaign

[siegemeister675]

I see why your have a pink triangle.
>LOL JUST DO A THING
OK then name a SIP provider that isn't just a reseller of Bandwidth Inc. Because anyone that is going to sell you 1 DID is. There is no money in retail voip service.
They didn't get Google to drop his DID. Bandwidth Inc dropped it.

Josh is already operating in absurd land. You shouldn't HAVE to Be Your Own ISP (own all the hardware+IPs) to host a gossip forum but here he is.
If they can get Tmobile/VZN/ATT to cancel him then shit's fucked. The next step is Be You Own Telco.

There are options for getting DID's directly from bigger carriers, I laid some of them out to Jersh in DM's.

 

[Furry killer]

I used this company many years ago for sending packages and as a mailing adress but I don't know if it suits your needs.

https://mailboxesetc.se/

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Why not hide your company and do what the big companies do, hide your company under a complicated network of shell companies, and find the cheapest "office" to rent at (like "office space" offered at large self-storage facilities). Alternatively, you could even create legitimate front businesses to further obfuscate things, and shuffle around money. It would be like reverse money laundering, instead of sending the "dirty" money to "clean" businesses, you get "clean" businesses to donate to the "dirty" company.

 

[named]

Why not hide your company and do what the big companies do, hide your company under a complicated network of shell companies, and find the cheapest "office" to rent at (like "office space" offered at large self-storage facilities).

You don't need to buy a mailing address or registered agent if you already have a corporate office somewhere; but you do need someone there to pick up the mail. Most of those companies have U.S. operations and simply have their employees run those services themselves off their own property.

 

[Cavalier Cipolla]

I have some Monster at 2:30 AM induced conspiracy-ish theory. My source is admittedly that I made it the fuck up.

It seems like the Russian company's real reason for ditching the farms isn't the troon stuff, but something that came from the Muscovite glowies. DDoS guard probably simply took advantage of the plausible deniability that it wasn't the FSGlowies who influenced the decision, but Keffals' troon army. And I suppose that gives some slight amount of good PR to Ruzzia as they can be like "See? We don't kill the LGBT, look, we deplatformed a forum that makes fun of the LGBT!" in hopes of westerners being retarded enough that it distracts them from Ukraine.

And the Vsys, like many Ukrainian companies, is trying to win over as many potential customers, so long as they aren't from Russia, so that Ukraine becomes a further target of western investment and stuff like that. And ofc, it gives good PR to Ukrainian companies by saying "See? Ruzzian companies dropped these people, while we gave them the opportunity to do bidness!".

 

[Cubanodun]

I used this company many years ago for sending packages and as a mailing adress but I don't know if it suits your needs.

https://mailboxesetc.se/

Oh they have those in the states? we have that franchise here in Bananazuela, only way to bring stuff from there because we dont have a postal service, i used the crap out of them back in the day when we could buy stuff on Amazon they even repaid me a book they lost during shipping

 

[Watcher]

Josh, I live in Argentina and, even if its a third world country, most people don't give a shit about trannies or twitter.

Just food for thought, also if you want to know something you can message me and I'll help you as best as I can.

The biggest issue Josh is having right now is that these people break very fast when the mob comes for them. Like the Russian ddos host only bent the knee when a huge ddos wave came for their entire network. It's been long speculated what got the CEO of Cloudflare to bend the knee was something that could potentially kill the company like a payment processor dropping them.

So while people in Argentina might not care for transgender people or twitter. They might care if supporting the Kiwifarms leads to their entire network and client base getting ddos'd. Or the CEO of the company being sent harassing emails from Vordrak threatening to blackmail them and their employees. Very few people are willing to stand on principle to that extent and it's why Russia, a country that has gay concentration camps and regularly mocks the West over leftists, bent the knee.

 

[Catboy Ranch]

i mean i made it pretty clear, i need a phone number to put on stuff. I don't even need calls, just voicemail transcriptions.

Simple, use forwarding to VOIP.

Go get a number with any major RBOC (the big 3 cell carriers) and then go open an account at VOIP.ms

Don't ever share out the DID you register at VOIP.ms, don't put it on any forms. It will not get posted to any directories that the trannies can search.

On the RBOC account, forward that to your VOIP.ms number. The trannies are finding your number through LLC registration records. You can forward the voip number to anything you want, or just set up Asterisk (or FreePBX if you must have a GUI) and do your own voicemail to email service.

 

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I don't see how they would find and isolate his service to complain. John Moos would just be some random citizen rather than the owner of Kiwifarms. I have been using U.S. Mobile with a fake name and recharging gift card for my phone service for like 5 years now.

It's easy to lookup what carrier is associated with a phone number. When that phone number is publicly available on company records/the abuse page on the KF site, it's a different matter from 'random phone number that you happen to use that you've told noone you don't want to have it about'.

 

[Catboy Ranch]

Simple, use forwarding to VOIP.

Go get a number with any major RBOC (the big 3 cell carriers) and then go open an account at VOIP.ms

Don't ever share out the DID you register at VOIP.ms, don't put it on any forms. It will not get posted to any directories that the trannies can search.

On the RBOC account, forward that to your VOIP.ms number. The trannies are finding your number through LLC registration records. You can forward the voip number to anything you want, or just set up Asterisk (or FreePBX if you must have a GUI) and do your own voicemail to email service.

Oh ya, I should mention this, do not EVER run a publicly exposed instance of FreePBX. There are like 20x more trannies in telecom phone system shit than there are in network security. Every voip convention is fat old dudes most of them are "marketing", aka running the backend of a telemarketing dialer, the rest are trannies.

Don't ask me how I know.

But when the trannies confab and ask their tranny friend who knows telecom, zir will tell them the advice I just gave you is rock solid.

It's easy to lookup what carrier is associated with a phone number. When that phone number is publicly available on company records/the abuse page on the KF site, it's a different matter from 'random phone number that you happen to use that you've told noone you don't want to have it about'.

This is only partially true on VOIP.

The homing carrier is what will show up in a dip database on VOIP and these days 90% of the time it will just say Bandwidth.com

Most people who don't know the VOIP biz will assume that Bandwidth is running the equipment for that number but that's not how it works. If Bandwidth is the primary tandem they may refer tickets (which is what they did to Null) but on the smaller mom and pops that are behind another tandem like West they likely will only send a ticket if there is network abuse going on, because most of the time the tickets won't carryover since they all go thru email.

This gap in abuse management is exploited the fuck up by Indians who dump loads of scam calls on the network.

 

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This is only partially true on VOIP.

The homing carrier is what will show up in a dip database on VOIP and these days 90% of the time it will just say Bandwidth.com

The original problem was that Bandwidth.com bent the knee. If they did it over a number that was associated with Google Voice, of all their clients, they'll do it again.

 

[Cynically Insane]

All shady or controversial businesses use Delaware corporate agents.

 

[Jump]

Simple, use forwarding to VOIP.

Go get a number with any major RBOC (the big 3 cell carriers) and then go open an account at VOIP.ms

Don't ever share out the DID you register at VOIP.ms, don't put it on any forms. It will not get posted to any directories that the trannies can search.

On the RBOC account, forward that to your VOIP.ms number. The trannies are finding your number through LLC registration records. You can forward the voip number to anything you want, or just set up Asterisk (or FreePBX if you must have a GUI) and do your own voicemail to email service.

Why even do the voip.ms hop?
If your mobile carrier is going to be the public facing number then just pop that sim in a cellphone that supports wifi calling and then your done.
You can do voice and and SMS over wifi calling. You will get transcribed voice mails if your plan and phone supports "Visual voicemail".
This is Tmobile's android app:

 

[1996 Toyota Camry]

If you just open a PO at a post Office and had someone trusted pick the mail for you and check for GPS trackers or whatever, is there any way for them to get doxxed?

You would have to open all the mail in your car and ensure there are no trackers, how agents do it is they just don't allow packages, if a "letter" is not flat like a letter should be they don't accept it, then just scan and email through all the letters.
As for being doxxed other than a gps tracker, you would just need to ensure that the post office you use isn't social engineerable, you can test that yourself by ringing up and trying to gather information on a random po box number, that or form an LLC in a state that doesnt require your name to be on it, only an agents (wyoming for example) and open a po box on behalf of that LLC and not yourself.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

How do you start up a remailer company like that? If you just open a PO at a post Office and had someone trusted pick the mail for you and check for GPS trackers or whatever, is there any way for them to get doxxed? If it's that easy I'm sure someone out there would take the risk for like 100 a month.

I think the 'someone trusted' issue isn't trivial. I don't think any random poster here is going to do, even if they would take the risk. It would have to be either someone who was known and personally trusted IRL- like someone who already knows Null's location- or someone who has a professional responsibility.

The former camp is probably small to begin with and would be vulnerable to having their lives fucked with if something went wrong (as it does, given enough time and effort). The latter is a better option but most people don't want to deal with the headache when they could better spend their time just helping little-known LLCs commit tax fraud.

I would second the idea of trying to get a lawyer to do it or secure a very good referral although the only ones I would think of are already certainly on the radar (i.e. someone like Nick who has a hint of oppositional defiant disorder when it comes to people trying to screw with him)

 

[Mitt Doggy Dogg]

Couldn’t Nick the drunken lawyer help you with some of this? I know Delaware is very pro business and probably South Carolina also I live in SC and we are pretty old school here but with Graham in power who knows since he stands for nothing

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

 

[StMaryPiper]

If you can't find a service then make one instead. I'd sign up for Kiwi Phones and donate to the sovereign nation of Kiwitopia

 

[Moths]

Will you dumb faggots stop suggesting manually operating a PO Box null doesnt want to deal with the fallout when some insane retard blows you up with a mail bomb and you/your families try to sue us for being an 'employee', hence why we are trying to use professional services

Its the 5th time its been suggested and the thread is 5 pages long jesus christ

 

[Safir]

It seems like the Russian company's real reason for ditching the farms isn't the troon stuff, but something that came from the Muscovite glowies.

Muscovite glowies do not care about the Farms. However, getting a company dependent on Russian government contracts to drop the Farms is fairly easy, as the site hosts "nazi propaganda" (iirc, a picture of Santa Claus saying "ho ho holocaust") and the .net domain is on an RKN niggerlist.