Should animal testing be banned?

[zero-who]

Animal testing isn't quite what I'd call a hot-button issue in the Current Year™, but it's a subject a lot of people are very passionate about one way or the other, and I'd like to know what the Farms thinks about the matter.

- I believe testing cosmetics and household products should be 100% banned on all animals, except for humans.
- I believe medical experimentation for human purposes should be banned on monkeys and apes, but not rats or rabbits.
- I believe needlessly cruel and unusual medical experimentation (i.e. Fauci's beagle torture experiments, Neuralink monkeys) should obviously be banned and anyone involved should be imprisoned and tested on themselves.

Elaborate on your beliefs below.

 

[Vingle]

Use convicted criminals that are serving so many years, that they are going to die in prison anyway. If we can't execute them, at least use them for something useful. So we taxpayers aren't completely ripped off, for just keeping the lowlifes alive.

Actually, tretinoin was tested on criminals back in the day. The gold standard anti-aging ingredient.

 

[Chilson]

The problem with your logic is your assuming everyone knows what is being experimented on prior to the fact. People don't just go into an experiment going "lets torture some animals". They go into an experiment with an initial hypothesis that gets expanded upon the more the experiment reveals, leading inevitably to the experiments themselves changing and so on with the cycle until the researchers have a proper conclusion.

Surface level experiments are done to simply prove that the hypothesis can survive the barest real world conditions. Then the experiments get more complex from there, side effects no one ever considered start popping up, new experiments are done to explore the side effects ect. ect.

Does this go to far and can be cruel to animals? Absolutely and we should endeavor to avoid such situations. However, the escalation of the experimental cycle where you start off from a point where you are not hurting your animal subjects to full blown torture is slow, developing over the course of days, months, years even and difficult to track.

Its also difficult to identify what is and what is not necessary. Testing cancer drugs on lab rats we gave tumors to is cruel, but lab rats are born to die and have short lives. Should we not do this to help people overcome cancer? Its just one of the many moral conundrums we find ourselves in and, following from the above logic, experiments can go from necessary to unnecessary back to necessary over the cycle of experimentation and hypothesis development.

With that said, the cosmetics animal experiment community is evil right from the get go and should go fuck themselves.

 

[Ser Prize]

The problem with your logic is your assuming everyone knows what is being experimented on prior to the fact. People don't just go into an experiment going "lets torture some animals".

Unless they're funded by Fauci.

 

[zero-who]

Use convicted criminals that are serving so many years, that they are going to die in prison anyway. If we can't execute them, at least use them for something useful. So we taxpayers aren't completely ripped off, for just keeping the lowlifes alive.

Actually, tretinoin was tested on criminals back in the day. The gold standard anti-aging ingredient.

I've thought about this, and while it sounds appealing (much moreso than animal testing), I don't trust the government to set precedent for using prisoners as lab rats.

Keep in mind that the people running the White House right now would love nothing more than to see you in jail for not double-masking, triple-vaxxing, and staying inside indefinitely. A corrupt government will not always prosecute those who deserve it.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

As soon as my dog telepathy experiments have concluded, sure.

 

[Kuchipatchi]

I've thought about this, and while it sounds appealing (much moreso than animal testing), I don't trust the government to set precedent for using prisoners as lab rats.

Keep in mind that the people running the White House right now would love nothing more than to see you in jail for not double-masking, triple-vaxxing, and staying inside indefinitely. A corrupt government will not always prosecute those who deserve it.

I used think, "Let's experiment on people instead of animals" but I can trust the government to make the sound decision of setting the bar for qualification.

Especially nowadays when people that don't believe in the current minority supremacy brainwashing get outcasted and punished for thinking differently.

 

[polackerino]

Morals were invented by kikes

 

[Isaac]

It should be like some sort of PETA consulting thing (but a better organization than PETA). Some guy comes in, and they ask if it is ethical to put paint the nails of a coyote with some
new formula. Then the guy tells them if it is ethnical or not to test the specific nail paint on a coyote. It's probably like this in many countries, and I am just not aware.

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

generally? yes. maybe not on mundane shit like actual pet food. or funny pet sweaters
but manufacturers should know enough about what's in their own products to not have to test it out to see if it'll give a living thing super-aids.