Should Chris receive donations?

[Smokedaddy]

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I.e. were it not exhausted from a badde Daye and not considered You a valuable Poster, it woulde use its Power to turn yr. name Pinke.

Rube.

 

[Holdek]

Chris doxed himself online years ago. It has caused him plenty of annoyance, but a few perks over the years. He won a Guitar Hero contest once, and now he's getting donations from his home burning. People who are bothered by Chris receiving charity just come off like they are jealous.

Some of them are coming off as basically just a version of, "Chris is worse than Hitler and therefore does not deserve donations."

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Does this make a difference to anyone? Somewhat of a dick move on their part, thinking like that. Ignoring the fact they have people who live near them.

This was a private e-mail that got leaked, though.

I would never give Chris a donation, due to his behavior. I especially hope people change their minds about giving after reading that Chris thinks that FIREFIGHTERS stole shit from his house.

That's because they failed to save his sweetheart [cwc]PandaHalo[/cwc] before. This was memorialized by Chris in Sonichu (where they also come off as kind of dickish):

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[Kosher Dill]

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Hah! Barb is trying to save the Snorlax chair? That thing really is her "The Classic".

I was feeling some sort of mild regret at not donating, but now I think I'll be just fine.

 

[A-Stump]

Pro tip: Don't call anyone names. Restrict your replies to thoughtful, civil debate. Who knows, another user who is older, more cynical, profound, witty, debonair, and (above all) devilishly handsome might possibly take offense when some dribbling infant calls them a "rube."

A good general (and Lovecraftian) guideline to follow: "Do not call uppe which ye cannot put downe, as it may not wish to responde, and may command more than You."

I.e. were it not exhausted from a badde Daye and not considered You a valuable Poster, it woulde use its Power to turn yr. name Pinke.

Rube.

I know when I have a losing hand. You win this round

 

[Soul of Carl Winslow]

Pro tip: Don't call anyone names. Restrict your replies to thoughtful, civil debate. Who knows, another user who is older, more cynical, profound, witty, debonair, and (above all) devilishly handsome might possibly take offense when some dribbling infant calls them a "rube."

A good general (and Lovecraftian) guideline to follow: "Do not call uppe which ye cannot put downe, as it may not wish to responde, and may command more than You."

I.e. were it not exhausted from a badde Daye and not considered You a valuable Poster, it woulde use its Power to turn yr. name Pinke.

Rube.

So then I'm allowed to call people names as long as it's "dribbling infant"?

 

[A-Stump]

I was going to actually question that but I'm in no mood to get clapped by Mjölnir today.

 

[rocket]

I wish we had donated money so they could blow it all refurbishing a single chair

 

[Holdek]

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A good general (and Lovecraftian) guideline to follow: "Do not call uppe which ye cannot put downe, as it may not wish to responde, and may command more than You."

I.e. were it not exhausted from a badde Daye and not considered You a valuable Poster, it woulde use its Power to turn yr. name Pinke.

Rube.

So then I'm allowed to call people names as long as it's "dribbling infant"?

You chose to write this as your first post? :?

 

[Soul of Carl Winslow]

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I.e. were it not exhausted from a badde Daye and not considered You a valuable Poster, it woulde use its Power to turn yr. name Pinke.

Rube.

So then I'm allowed to call people names as long as it's "dribbling infant"?

You chose to write this as your first post? :?

Sure, why not? Why would anyone want to be a part of a discussion forum where they're afraid to speak their mind? I'm not into circlejerks, regardless of post number.

To get back on topic, I didn't donate because I'm a psychotherapist at a homeless shelter for disabled veterans with dual diagnosis (mental health and substance abuse). I donate a lot to this population because they're appreciative and they're actually making an effort to improve their situations. However, if they relapse I don't give them anything and refuse to talk to them until they're sober because there is a fine line between helping and enabling, which I feel donating to a welfare leech like Chris does cross. If other people want to donate that's none of my business; they can do whatever they want with their own money.

 

[Coldgrip]

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Does this make a difference to anyone? Somewhat of a dick move on their part, thinking like that. Ignoring the fact they have people who live near them.

You know, I'm actually kinda surprised. Not at the fact that Chris would act like an ungrateful ass, that was inevitable, but that he would accuse a firefighter of stealing garbage from him and his mother.

goddamn it chris

Edit* On second thought, this isn't so surprising. Chris attitude of accusing, vilifying and in general acting like a petulant little asshole has been documented and he's also been know to just repeat the lies his crazy ass mother tells him. This is just sadly par for the course.

 

[Holdek]

So then I'm allowed to call people names as long as it's "dribbling infant"?

You chose to write this as your first post? :?

Sure, why not? Why would anyone want to be a part of a discussion forum where they're afraid to speak their mind? I'm not into circlejerks, regardless of post number.

To get back on topic, I didn't donate because I'm a psychotherapist at a homeless shelter for disabled veterans with dual diagnosis (mental health and substance abuse).

Uh huh...

 

[Some JERK]

To get back on topic, I didn't donate because I'm a psychotherapist at a homeless shelter for disabled veterans with dual diagnosis (mental health and substance abuse). I donate a lot to this population because they're appreciative and they're actually making an effort to improve their situations. However, if they relapse I don't give them anything and refuse to talk to them until they're sober because there is a fine line between helping and enabling, which I feel donating to a welfare leech like Chris does cross. If other people want to donate that's none of my business; they can do whatever they want with their own money.

I think there are a lot of different philosophies on the subject of helping people. Some people (like yourself) believe that people should only be helped so long as they deserve and appreciate it. Some people believe that people should be helped because they need help, and whether they deserve it or not isn't a factor. I can see both sides to that argument, but in the end i think that "deserve" is so subjective a concept that there's not really any practical way to integrate it without turning any serious efforts to help anyone into an ineffective nightmare.

 

[A-Stump]

Hey I like Carl Winslow. He presented his opinion, which is at the very least a valid criticism at what flies here and what doesn't, but then again I really don't care what mods say to me. I've been told off by at least 3 (now 4) of them and haven't been banned so they're at the very least lenient of people's bullshit.

 

[qld]

To get back on topic, I didn't donate because I'm a psychotherapist at a homeless shelter for disabled veterans with dual diagnosis (mental health and substance abuse). I donate a lot to this population because they're appreciative and they're actually making an effort to improve their situations. However, if they relapse I don't give them anything and refuse to talk to them until they're sober because there is a fine line between helping and enabling, which I feel donating to a welfare leech like Chris does cross. If other people want to donate that's none of my business; they can do whatever they want with their own money.

I think there are a lot of different philosophies on the subject of helping people. Some people (like yourself) believe that people should only be helped so long as they deserve and appreciate it. Some people believe that people should be helped because they need help, and whether they deserve it or not isn't a factor. I can see both sides to that argument, but in the end i think that "deserve" is so subjective a concept that there's not really any practical way to integrate it without turning any serious efforts to help anyone into an ineffective nightmare.

I think a lot of the "help" comes from wanting something from it. You give to the bellringer because someone is staring you down and you'll feel guilty and cheap if you don't. You give at the office because someone in HR and some of your co-workers may think you're cheap. And so on. Fortunately, I don't care if strangers think I'm cheap, and if anyone ever confronted me about giving, you never know if I didn't write one big check to something else instead of giving change here and there to beggars. I'm not easily guilted so the solicitor's tactics don't bother me.
I think Chris falls along the lines of bailing a friend or co-worker out of jail, or paying a bill for a roommate. You've kinda been guilted into it, and in the back of your head you think you're building equity and can someday call on the favor, or perhaps get them to treat you better or be more appreciative. But in the end, your bail won't be returned, and the roommate will skip town owing you.

 

[rocket]

whoever forwarded the email to thetan seemed to imply that kellie would see it

not that it really matters at this point but it's still fun to think about

 

[Some JERK]

I think a lot of the "help" comes from wanting something from it. You give to the bellringer because someone is staring you down and you'll feel guilty and cheap if you don't. You give at the office because someone in HR and some of your co-workers may think you're cheap. And so on. Fortunately, I don't care if strangers think I'm cheap, and if anyone ever confronted me about giving, you never know if I didn't write one big check to something else instead of giving change here and there to beggars. I'm not easily guilted so the solicitor's tactics don't bother me.
I think Chris falls along the lines of bailing a friend or co-worker out of jail, or paying a bill for a roommate. You've kinda been guilted into it, and in the back of your head you think you're building equity and can someday call on the favor, or perhaps get them to treat you better or be more appreciative. But in the end, your bail won't be returned, and the roommate will skip town owing you.

Yeah maybe, but i really don't think anyone who donated to Chris did it out of guilt though. I really don't. And once again, i really don't think that those who donated did so because they thought it would change him. I think they did it because they felt like it would help Chris out, even if he didn't appreciate or deserve it. I think you're gonna find that the prevailing attitude towards this latest BS with accusing firefighters of theft is: "Yeah, Chris is acting like a dick again. Of course he is. But at least he's acting like a dick in clean socks."

I could be wrong.

 

[Greg Sestero]

Are you shitting me?

People will attack and criticize the forum over even the slightest negative remark about Chris. If you say he didn't earn his CADD because the school was just pushing him out the door, then you get labeled as a dropout and a failure who can't comprehend the idea that Chris did something they did not. If you say that Chris doesn't deserve his tugboat because of how he spends it, people will claim you accept benefits and are just trollshielding. If you say he mistreated Megan, some will even argue that Megan was just trying to trick Chris into giving her free stuff. Nobody's entitled to their opinion without someone else thinking they're a self-loathing autistic meat-puppet covering up their own inadequacies. This forum is on the neutral end of this spectrum. PVCC and other lolcow-oriented communities are worse, and they look at this place like it's A-Log heaven.

The reason people seem so particular to what can be said is that they're desensitized to it. Everyone's gotten used to Chris now and the novelty of his antics has been completely lost. Those who come in and immediately start spouting off about how Chris doesn't deserve a thieving red-cent get ostracized because it seems alien that anyone could care that much, especially when it's about what they would try to do to actually help Chris. The people who do care that much are usually batshit fucking insane. If you don't believe me, check out Spergatory. There's some guy in there that was talking about fucking Chris in the ass with a full bowel. You never know who's going to turn out to be the next big crazy, and Chris attracts a lot of them. But really, the bottom line is this:

Chris is just some fucking guy. If you get adamant about how people shouldn't donate to him, or that audio logs of him lamenting the death of his father should be released to the public, or really anything, it starts concerning people.

No, I am not shitting you. I am giving you my honest opinion. Yes, there are places that treat Chris worse than this forum. There are places that treat chris TOO well, groups of white knights and such. I am not referring to those people. I specifically mentioned places, among them ED, which have surely attracted the attention of many new users.

The first paragraph of the ED article on Chris says, "As well as "suffering" from autism, Chris also suffers from a terminal case of unwarranted self-importance, the only cure for which would be to remove his head from his consequently gaping ass." That's incredibly harsh. I don't think anyone should think that way, nor do I think that the person who wrote the article thinks that way. He's just saying that. Do I think that we need 1000's of people on this forum saying things along those lines? No. I've seen the way this board operates, lurked enough to see that there are good reasons for why it doesn't allow certain types of behavior. But that ED article, full of statements that would almost certainly be labelled "a-logging" here, has a link to the Sonichu website on the bottom. Not that there aren't weens or A-Logs who read ED. My point is, pointing out that Chris is fat and stupid is frowned upon here more than in some other places (not least of all because it's already been pointed out so many times here), and those other places are going to be bringing in new people. That's just a fact.

The first thing I said out loud when someone first showed me Chris, I think, was "Wow, this guy's a fucking retard." Am I going to go around spouting that every post here? No. But that was what I said, in all truth and honesty, and I have trouble imagining some of the old users here didn't say or think something similar on first exposure. As to caring about people donating, I'm not really sure what you mean. I have a certain opinion, which is that Chris probably doesn't deserve monetary contributions, and I care enough to have posted about it here on the forums. I daresay I care less about Chris, and anything related to Chris, than the people who've donated actual money. I really don't see why some of the people you mentioned would even be brought up. People who care enough to say, "I don't think Chris deserves money", are usually bat-shit insane? That's a bit of a slippery slope. People should be allowed to say they don't think Chris needs more free stuff without those kinds of people even being brought up in conversation. At all.

Edit: Also, I don't think Chris's videos of him lamenting his father's death should be made public, nor am I really interested in hearing that. What do you mean, "If you get adamant about how people shouldn't donate to him, or that audio logs of him lamenting the death of his father should be released to the public"? Those things are not even close to being the same. I don't know how "adamant" I've been - I've not insulted or shown anger towards anybody, not even towards Chris, but what I've said is not tantamount to being some sick fuck with a sexual desire to watch Chris suffer. That's just an unnecessary example to bring up, and I DISAGREE HEAVILY that my opinion on Chris - that's he freeloaded enough already, which I'm not ashamed of repeating - should concern people in the same way as a guy begging for audio of Chris crying after Bob's death.

Re-edit: I don't want to ass-rape Chris "with a full bowel", either. I'm hoping and assuming that you're not trying to compare me to that guy, but seriously, with these examples? If a guy sees Chris, who's a freeloader, sees people giving him free stuff, and is bored enough to go on a forum and say "Hey, I don't think more free stuff is the best thing him" - politely, I think - coprophiliac rape does not need to enter into the conversation. "Discussing his incontinence in detail is unnecessary and disturbing."

 

[DrChristianTroy]

whoever forwarded the email to thetan seemed to imply that kellie would see it

not that it really matters at this point but it's still fun to think about

THAT is the e-mail I wanna see.

 

[twf]

Anyone donating some 42 bust sports bras?

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

In light of his accusations of thievery on the part of the firefighters, my decision has changed. He does not deserve charity.