Should guns be banned?

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StolenWindows

StolenWindows

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Another day, another mass shooting. This time, two trannies shot up a mosque, killing 3 people. The teens killed each other. Turns out, they were Tarrant fanboys just like that other tranny Jonatas Da Silva Kiyokawa who tried shooting up his school. And as it turns out, they used the sharty. Nuff said. Why does this have to keep happening? Out of all the times someone wanted to kill a bunch of people, almost every single time it was a gun. Sandy Hook, Columbine, Sutherland Springs, Orlando, San Bernardino, El Paso, Parkland, Las Vegas, Virginia Tech, etc etc etc. When was the last time somebody picked up a knife and did that kind of damage? 9/11 was the last time anything like that really happened in America. Or the Boston Marathon bombing and the 2017 New York truck of peace attack. Everywhere else that's the modus operandi, and asode from Satoshi Uematsu and the 2012 Chengpeng Village Primary school slashing in China, you don't really hear about it much. In 2014, there was a kid named Alex Hribal who brought two butcher knives to school and managed to seriously injure 21 people. In 2011, in Puerto Rico there was a girl who stabbed 30 people with a hypodermic syringe. They don't usually go as planned. There were a few ISIS-related cases, like Abdul Razak Ali Artan, Mohamed Barry, Dahir Adan and Faisal Mohammad but none of them netted any kills (besides themselves). Knives are about as effective as a handgun realistically. If people starting using that or like the Halle, Germany synagogue attacker (Stephan Balliett) who used unreliable homemade weapons, mass casualty incidents would drop, suicides would drop, and so on. But the gun lobby wants them to remain legal for anyone to own. The only good counterargument I've seen is that it's written in our constitution. To that I would honestly agree. It's a double-edged sword. I'm getting tired of hearing about these depraved lunatics.
 
bro you're the first person to ever make these arguments before and none of them have ever been refuted, we should definitely punish law abiding citizens for the actions of mentally ill groomed teenagers. thanks for this thread dude i learned a lot.
 
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@StolenWindows assuming that your stance is that guns should be banned, what would you say would make you change your mind?
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Umm, honestly crime. Criminal networks evolve. Look at Brazil or Mexico which has some of the strictest laws in the world and still exceptionally high murder rates. The US is roughly 5 murders per 100,000 people. In Mexico it's roughly like 20. America's crime rate is comparable to Eastern Europe. Further, most actual mass murders are familicides, not those highly publicized public attack cases you hear about on the news, and most of the time, they don't use guns.
 
The world is a worse place with them. It would be a worser place without them.

Chose your pain and suffer with the lesser of two evils
 
I love arguments like this one. Here's a few depending on your personal political views:
  1. Firearms enable disabled or victims of oppression to reduce tyranny.
    Let's say you're in a wheelchair, or you're old, or you have to live in a ghetto, where the streets aren't safe. You're an easy mark with any of the above, until you pull out your gun. The firearm is the great equalizer, the best way to ensure that a figure who wishes to rob from you, extort you, or otherwise subjugate you(Like for example a crooked cop flexing his authority). A society that says "You're not allowed to have a gun because that's against the law!" won't stop a person who is going to use said firearm to commit another crime. They're already going down if they get caught with the firearm, or for committing a crime, so why not get two birds stoned at once?

  2. Humans will always contrive new methods of violence as a means to an end.
    A while back, The Yookay banned firearms. As a result, stabbings went up. So then, The Yookay heavily controlled and regulated the sale of knives. Now, acid attacks and the Trucks of Peace(tm) are all the rage. A person driven to violence is already by nature unsound, so the decision to cause an atrocity by whatever means necessary. Next you'll want to ban cars, or power tools, or anything heavier than 8lbs made of metal, or the human fist(Historical fun fact, the French did this for a small period - it's why the French martial art of Savate exists) It's not feasible. The human condition is a sequence of extended periods of peace followed by short but explosive periods of violence. From an evolutionary standpoint, we're tool-using anthropoids. To invent new ways to hurt people is in our DNA.

  3. Historically, every government who banned weapons quickly turned into an autocracy.
    As outlined in point 1, firearms are the great equalizer. Totalitarian dictators recognize this fact, and it's why many at the height of their power opt to strip the country's populace of their firearms. A few well-known names include the Soviet Union(1918 ), Nazi Germany(Specifically Jews, 1938 ), Cuba(1959), Venezuela(2012), Communist China(1949), and Cambodia(1975). In fact, it was Mao Zedong who famously said "All political power grows from the barrel of a gun". Without a readily easy way for able- or disable-bodied people to equalize power, there is no way to regain power from a dictator that is not ruthless, bloody, and leads to the death of many innocents.

  4. If owning a firearm is a crime, then only criminals will own guns.
    This one requires no explanation.

  5. Where does a government draw the line?
    Yes, guns are dangerous. Yes, guns kill people. So does smoking. So does driving a vehicle. So does operating heavy machinery, or having a bath, or eating too much. If you're in power, what do you consider overextension? Should the government do everything in its power to prevent us from doing anything dangerous? Because if you really think a faceless bureaucrat in a temperature-controlled office somewhere is going to do everything with your best intentions in mind, you're as braindead as the people who take everything Trump says as gospel. We were gifted with the burden of free thought for a reason.
 
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Don't even bother, a gunless America is just asking for violent Antifa pooner and Neo Nazi groyper mass murder mobs to drag everyone out to be gassed in concentration camps based on AI-generated black lists consisting of Digital ID. They will wipe out 40% of the American population in 4 years and I meant it.
 
No, don't ban guns. That's as retarded as banning electricity because niggers try stealing EV charging cables and arc flash themselves.
 
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