you have to understand that over 90% of incels would instantly write you off as 'a coping bluepilled cuck' or 'gaslighting femoid' the second they hear something like 'Educate yourself on real human psychology.'
I realized a little while after I made that post that I'd spoken one of the two trigger phrases that I know of. The other being "just don't be creepy."
On the topic of
looksmax.org, it does overlap with incels.is, but being an incel isn’t a requirement to join. In fact, plenty of incels dislike the site because 'normies' and 'chads' are allowed to post and brag, which fills them with envy.
For context, both sites are run by @afounder, aka Master/Marquis/Lamarcus Small, who’s most known for owning
sanctioned-suicide.net
Be honest, you're not actually a looksmaxxer, you're writing a thesis paper and this thread is part of your research.
He’s different from the typical incel in that he blames his personality (He wouldn't use the word 'personality', but that is basically what he means) and what he calls his 'non-NT brain' instead of his looks.
Ah yes, because personality is something you can work on, whereas having Asperger's is not. Although actually, even a full-blown autist can learn and train to act less spergy.
I’ve tried to convince him to 'personalitymaxx' in different ways.
I am formally begging you to drop all the gay and cringe incel lingo from your vocabulary and find alternative words for it even when speaking to incels. If I know one thing for sure, it's that incel lingo is a net negative on the entire human species. I'll try to find better phrases than 'educate yourself' and 'creepy' as well, although I don't think they are necessarily that bad.
I suggested going to parties and getting drunk to become more pro-social (but he refuses because he says alcohol is disgusting and drugs are bad), or watching how successful guys in clubs act and trying to copy them.
I think this is not the right mentality. I used to look up to guys who could pick up random club chicks and smash mad box while high off MDMA night after night, and then (most importantly) brag about it later, but I think casual sex addiction and drug abuse is just another way that these outwardly successful guys cope with ennui.
Simply put, I think bars and clubs fucking SUCK and are not actually pro-social. I would suggest looking into real pro-social activities like local athletic or even dance activities that do not involve dingy drinking holes. Especially ones that attract an equal or greater number of women than men. I used to joke with an irl friend who kind of identified as an incel that we should both sign up for Zumba to talk to girls.
Once you're speaking to women, don't try to put up a barrier in the form of pick-up-artistry or the expectation of sex, just empathize with them and learn to love them. The biggest danger to the incel is that they begin to hate women so much that they turn gay and/or troon out. See Nick Fuentes and the rogues gallery of troons on this site.
Every time, he has some excuse. He even told me something like 'girls only like 80 IQ retards who talk like they’re on amphetamines,' so I told him, 'Then take stims and copy those 80 IQ retards.' But of course, there’s always a reason he can’t or won’t do it.
Personally, I like your pro-drug attitude and I have been known to indulge now and then, but I think women will be turned off by a tweaker.
He’s stuck in a victim mentality where everything is someone else’s fault; his parents, women, society, the jews, whatever. At this point, I’ve pretty much given up on him because it feels like talking to a brick wall.
This is THE quintessential incel mindset and you're absolutely right in that his mental fortress of self-pity is probably unassailable. It's not really worth your time to try and break those walls down with a stranger, but I understand the temptation to try.
Why are you defending someone who has repeatedly assaulted random people in fits of rage? This isn’t some lifelong friend. No, it’s an incel I barely know from discord for a few months.
Do you seriously think I owe loyalty to someone who’s a literal threat to others?
I personally think you do owe him a bit of honesty, just because it's virtuous and the right thing to do. Getting arrested because he opened up to a random discord contact, without even telling him, would just make him worse and more bitter.
Anyone so angry bitter and entitled and clearly refusing to show any sign of change or personal growth after years in the prime of their life I almost feel should be put down the same way you see an animal struck by a car slowly dying, you just might as well just go into the trunk find the tire iron and end it's suffering.
I think you're right, but that is a lot of young white men we'd have to put down.