Should man listen to other men who are non-heterosexual on topics like masculinity? - Why do men listen to men who are suspected to have androphilic tendencies about masculinity?

[Picnic_Boy]

Any man who references "Eat, Pray Love" as something to be learned from will never, ever be a real man. He is a woman, no, a very vapid woman, in masculine trappings.

 

[eDove]

Straight women allow gay men to dictate fashion trends to them (via the beauty industry).

So, I'd say heeding to gays is womanly behavior.

 

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

Lol what? There's lots of well-paid trades that take a long time to master and they're crying for fresh help. The issues are that they're hard, you have to wake up early and mommy's not there to hold your hand. Also, people don't know how to be content with their lot in life or take pride in something like a mere trade.

So it's not that we can't do it, most of us just won't do it.

Most people will change careers numerously or fall into a low skill profession. Most production of goods is in a factory in China. And most careers don’t have the same identity based pride they used to.

I think you’re right though - most won’t do it unless external forces push them. We’ve lost the external pressure to grow.

 

[Some JERK]

But, as a not man myself, I don’t fucking know. I get all my expectations of men from Hallmark Christmas special movies.

Those dudes actually exist (Tall. Handsome. Hilarious. Brave. Kind.) but unlike the witty, plucky, impossibly cute protagonists in those movies, most women are total cowards and won't actually talk to them. Those guys are pretty much all dating (or married to) evil sluts. And unlike those movies, when one evil slut breaks his heart or gets hit by a train, he doesn't move back to his small hometown where Sarah-Beth Lonelyheart lives. He gets scooped up by another evil slut before he even gets to the airport.

Or he's gay.

Don't listen to me though. I got all of my information about Hallmark movies from pretending to watch them with some evil slut.

 

[Sailor]

I mean, say what you want about faggots. But gay men will spend weeks at the gym to get buff and perfect because men only want hot bodies to fuck.

 

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

Those dudes actually exist (Tall. Handsome. Hilarious. Brave. Kind.) but unlike the witty, plucky, impossibly cute protagonists in those movies, most women are total cowards and won't actually talk to them. Those guys are pretty much all dating (or married to) evil sluts. And unlike those movies, when one evil slut breaks his heart or gets hit by a train, he doesn't move back to his small hometown where Sarah-Beth Lonelyheart lives. He gets scooped up by another evil slut before he even gets to the airport.

Or he's gay.

Don't listen to me though. I got all of my information about Hallmark movies from pretending to watch them with some evil slut.

I’m 99% sure the scripts are written by an AI with a very basic reused skeleton script. No pussy is worth watching that shit, man… I just had to watch it because my grandmother ate that shit up at Christmas time.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

Yes. Nothing more masculine than two dudes making hot sex with eachother

 

[Haim Arlosoroff]

No.

First Post, Best Post.

So my question is why do men follow men who tend to be sorta of funny?

Because they see in the eyes of the try-hard neo-masculine hyper-individual materialist American the very same loss and confusion they feel, and are interested in the subject.

What benefit do they gain from doing so?

At first, a framework to explain their misery and feelings-of-something-missing but by the end they only have a membership in a homosexual sex-cult. Women join heterosexual sex-cults, and men join homosexual sex-cults.

Can men learn to be men from men who have those tendencies?

Only the basics, and to be honest its doubtful that men could ever entirely parse through the bullshit and ensure they weren't just incorporating a whole heap of faggotry into their life.

Why would let men let a guy who wrote the quote below dictate masculinity?

Because they want to solve their feelings of loss and emptiness, and quietly they probably resent women for not wanting them.

Truthfully, no one alive today can solve this problem. Because the problem is modernity, and we are all marked by it. Only dead men and their words from a time when it was more sink or swim can tell a man who he is. But even then, how does a proper man fit into an insane world? There is no real way to solve the problem except to find a woman and isolate away from the craziness and it is kinda hard trying to find a woman who embraces the idea that the wider world is mad and contains people who would eat her babies to be famous, rich, and important in the eyes of others. Mostly because women most of all made the world so feminine today, and are the raving baby-killers who want fame.

It is a tragic world for those who are passionate, but it sure becomes a comedy for those who think longer about it.

 

[Fools Idol]

I wouldn't take any advice from a faggot who pretends it's more manly to be a top or to fuck a man like a hetero-man would fuck a woman.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha no

Nope, absolutely not. And once again, you're a gay poopy faggot for asking.

 

[Brahma]

What are you doing messy around with sissy feminine things like vaginas? Real men like masculine things, like cocks.

 

[Cow-Lovin' Fool]

Turning to a group for consensus advice is a woman move.

 

[Law]

There is no real way to solve the problem except to find a woman and isolate away from the craziness

Preferably in your basement. Make sure she can't chew through the restraints.

it is kinda hard trying to find a woman who embraces the idea that the wider world is mad

Don't lose hope, women with untreated paranoid schizophrenia exist.

Mostly because women most of all made the world so feminine today, and are the raving baby-killers who want fame.

Wait, why do want to take a raving baby-killer who's responsible for all the evils of the world and isolate alone with her? Sounds dicey!

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

If it's one of those ripped bodybuilder homos who work in a blue-collar field? Sure, unless they're talking about women or relationships.

If it's some turbo-twink who wears skinny jeans, speaks with a lisp and has an asshole looser than the average Twitter user's grip on reality? I wouldn't pay attention to anything they say, ESPECIALLY anything relating to masculinity.

 

[snailslime]

when it comes to looks, yes, because gay men are usually way hotter than straight men.

 

[FeatherPlucker]

No. Horrible idea. People probably shouldn't look to "gurus" for advice in the first place.

 

[Haim Arlosoroff]

Preferably in your basement. Make sure she can't chew through the restraints.

Nah, if you get the mother-in-law to like you by learning to cook her favorite meal and figuring out her sense of humor then the wife is quite stuck. No physical restraints needed, although I have to cook the sheer quantity of whatever vegetable the wife wanted to grow in the backyard. Pregnancy only slows the Balt female, she still made turnips and carrots according to some female notions of crop rotation and other blasphemy. I came home one day to a horse kennel parked on the street, and she had a draft horse pulling a rock out of the ground. I didn't know she knew someone who just had a giant horse laying around.

Don't lose hope, women with untreated paranoid schizophrenia exist.

My mother-in-law, my wife, and my daughter. Another daughter coming after that.

boo. Run in fear.

Wait, why do want to take a raving baby-killer who's responsible for all the evils of the world and isolate alone with her? Sounds dicey!

Well, the trick is you don't have to marry every last one of them you see. But the horrid beasts among the lady-stock really don't want you finding a good one, makes the rest look bad.

And I didn't lose hope, thank you for the advice!

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

I’m 99% sure the scripts are written by an AI with a very basic reused skeleton script. No pussy is worth watching that shit, man… I just had to watch it because my grandmother ate that shit up at Christmas time.

And did you smash?

 

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

And did you smash?

We smashed some potatoes and made green bean casserole for Christmas dinner, you damn degenerate.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Turning to a group for consensus advice is a woman move.

Absolutely right. Honestly, I don't even know how anyone feels comfortable writing prompts like this without being an actual out of the closet lisping gay man.

In fact now that I think about it that might mean these guys would actually be better off listening to openly gay men. I think coming out as gay despite it not being socially acceptable would actually be more masculine than being straight but needing social validation.

Besides, why would being gay make someone not masculine? Being masculine is just means behaving in a way associated with the male gender, if someone didn't bother with women at all, wouldn't that technically make them the most masculine? Maybe gay men shouldn't listen to straight men because straight men willingly castrate themselves enough to stoop to the level of dealing with femoids even in non-reproductive scenarios?

I repeat what I've said in the past: having sex with women is gay.