Shows you've had a falling out with - IE, they just suck now

[Guts Gets Some]

Star Trek - I think I was done when they dropped a bridge on Kirk in the movies, but I keep watching these new series, and none of them have even been decent. I kept quitting the shows halfway through after TNG. ST Picard is just bad and I was done with that after the first episode. I've watched both seasons of Discovery though because it's like watching a train wreck.

Give The Orville a watch, if you haven't already.

 

[LordofTendons]

Give The Orville a watch, if you haven't already.

Loving The Orville. I'm hoping we don't have to wait too long for season 3.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

Loving The Orville. I'm hoping we don't have to wait too long for season 3.

You've had a rough time if you had to slog through STD and Discard. My condolences.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I can’t enjoy HIMYM the same way anymore after the way it ended. Like the entire show lives a really bad taste in my mouth now, despite really enjoying a lot of the actor’s performances in it, especially Neil Patrick Harris.

 

[Garm]

I dropped the Simpsons and King of the Hill around 2007. I was tired of shows that didn't go anywhere.

I couldn't get into Big Bang Theory because it felt like a nerd minstral show. The entire time I heard a Steve Irwin voice in my head "We have found a pack of nerds. We will follow them to their watering hole. Then we will introduce a female into the area to record the nerds mating dance." The entire show is like "these are hardcore nerds!" Problem is by the mid 2000's hardcore nerds had abandoned D&D 4.0 for other systems with more depth. The entire show skated upon 80's stereotypes.

Weeds. I got through the entire series but... You couldn't like Nancy by the end. You can almost tell when Breaking Bad started influencing the writers because they kept making Nancy more despicable. The season where they went on a cross country road trip didn't help things either. It was satire of the suburbs. It was supposed to be a comedy and they tried to make it a drama. Nancy was never going to be Walter White. Shit, Nancy left a wider path of destruction than Walter White and she got to live and have a successful business.

I watched six episodes of Wilfred before I got tired of watching an Omega male wildly flail at his neighbor.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

I dropped the Simpsons and King of the Hill around 2007. I was tired of shows that didn't go anywhere.

You couldn't have legitimately thought either of those sitcoms had building narratives, right?

But I will side with you on dropping King of the Hill circa 07. That's when it completely went down the shitter, almost overnight. I knew something was wrong by the very first episode of the season.

 

[Garm]

You couldn't have legitimately thought either of those sitcoms had building narratives, right?

But I will side with you on dropping King of the Hill circa 07. That's when it completely went down the shitter, almost overnight. I knew something was wrong by the very first episode of the season.

It was precisely because I wanted shows that had a narrative that I quit watching The Simpsons. Something more than mindless entertainment that wouldn't matter from one week to the next.

 

[CheezzyMach]

Smallville got unbearable after Lana married Lex: the show just became Lana being a passive aggressive bitch to Clark while he cries and jerks himself off in the cuck corner. Allison Mack who I had a crush on way back when turning out to be a psycho sex slave cult leader doesn't help either.

Supernatural should have ended after they put ol Scratch in the pit like intended the show just kept getting dumber after.

Kamen Rider Kiva really goes to shit in it's later arcs.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

But most of Avatar is bad. Even in TLA it was only better than Korra since Bryke had a notably smaller role in production and it had men working on it who are missing from later works combined with how the team could cancel out all the bad ideas each of them had.

Hi Rags

Once Upon a Time - Around the end of season four with the endless flip-flopping of characters previously mentioned. Regina is bad, Regina is good. I honestly got tired of them messing with her and her flipping at the drop of a hat. Plus it seemed like the show would go with a story for half of a season, they would all be stuck someplace, and the art department would use a monochrome color palette, and I got sick of simply looking at the show, let alone paying actual attention to it.

On tv tropes page for big bad it lists something like 3 or four big bads per season. Seems like the show goes through them like Moviebob in a burger place.

 

[Übertroon]

But most of Avatar is bad.

Compared to what?

 

[The Pink Panther]

Once Upon a Time - Around the end of season four with the endless flip-flopping of characters previously mentioned. Regina is bad, Regina is good. I honestly got tired of them messing with her and her flipping at the drop of a hat. Plus it seemed like the show would go with a story for half of a season, they would all be stuck someplace, and the art department would use a monochrome color palette, and I got sick of simply looking at the show, let alone paying actual attention to it.

Suits - I watched this with my human. The show was OK for the first 3 seasons. It stuck to a formula and it didn't focus too much on dumb personal problems, and I didn't think too much about it. Then for some reason in season four the main character got his period and just could not stop whining, and Meghan Markle could not stop crying. And these were the glory days when Meghan was the worst part of the show. They were splitting the seasons, airing the first half before Christmas and the second half in the spring after I forgot about the first half. So I quit watching, but my human didn't and pouted, so I would stay in the room while it was on and do stuff on my laptop. When that chick from 27 Dresses joined the show that was it and I wouldn't even stay in the room any more.

White Collar - In the final show of season 3, Matt Bomer jumped off of a building with a parachute, and did some kind of Indiana Jones thing sliding under a door grabbing his fedora. I knew the show was never going to be as good after that and it never was. In the middle of season 4 I got a survey about the show and I told them the wife of the FBI guy should have an affair and move to DC. She didn't and the show suffered for it. I didn't watch it after that.

South Park - They rarely have a funny episode anymore. It's a chore to sit through, hoping that I'll laugh. I'm done.

Star Trek - I think I was done when they dropped a bridge on Kirk in the movies, but I keep watching these new series, and none of them have even been decent. I kept quitting the shows halfway through after TNG. ST Picard is just bad and I was done with that after the first episode. I've watched both seasons of Discovery though because it's like watching a train wreck.

Defiance - The first season was really good. The second season was OK. I dropped out in the third season because too many actors left, so the plot veered off in to the ditch. I have no idea what happened. This was on SyFy and they seemed to want to become a trash TV channel anyway.

The Office - This should have ended with season 3. It should have been put out of its misery when they aired that episode where Michael Scott reneged on the scholarships for those underprivileged kids. It should have been burned to the ground when the main plot became about Jim and Pam's marriage problems. I like to watch Jim's pranks on Dwight on you tube now. That's about it.

Supergirl - Another one I watched with the human. I was out in the second season after it switched networks and got super-preachy. I told him if he ever ran that shit on my TV again I would shoot the TV. He did it anyway after I went to bed and a couple of months later the TV died anyway. I swear it wasn't me.

HBO, as an entire channel, after Game of Thrones collapsed in on itself like a dying star.

human?

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Pokemon gets so much leeway with fans due to nostalgia; I can't believe you sat through a literal 500+ episodes of filler in Johto alone before Advanced was the last straw.
It took a whole hell of a lot shorter for me, honestly. Like, Orange Islands.

But yeah, you haven't missed much. The whole show is an intentional and perpetual status quo, and it's gone on so long, Ash is actually younger now than when he started, haha.

When I was a kid I had a higher tolerance for being jerked around by anime. Hell, I sat through all of DBZ and GT. And I actually liked the Orange Islands arc because it was different enough to interest baby me. But Johto really wore me down because of how fucking long it was dragged out.

But yeah, I've heard about Ash finally winning a tournament after 20 fucking years. Jesus, that's dragged out.

 

[LordofTendons]

human?

I live with a human. Don't judge me.

 

[Cooking Mama]

I'm sure The Simpsons and Walking Dead have been mentioned adnauseam. But true for me. I'm getting to that point with Stranger Things but supposedly the next season is the last one so we'll see.

Oh, I forgot about Stranger Things. I was at that point by the end of the second season, tried the third, was not impressed. Also not impressed with the “twist” for the new season.

 

[The Pink Panther]

I live with a human. Don't judge me.

 

[SnowBall]

I stopped watching Degrassi TNG after season 8 due to growing out of the show. I occasionally watched the later seasons out of morbid curiosity and they really went off the rails. It stopped being about relateable teen problems and turned into a full blown soap opera about who was sleeping with who.

Then I checked out Next Class on Netflix due to a sudden hit of nostalgia and it was a massive sjw clusterfuck. The show always had a sjw slant to it but it was bearable. I decided to watch it hoping there would be some “so bad it’s good” moments like the later seasons of TNG. I was wrong.

They had a gamegate story arc with a Muslim girl that was obviously a stand in for Anita. She gets a gaming club shut down because she thought the video game they played was sexist. The club leader was a rich white guy who was nothing more than a cartoon villain. He even brings a gun to school in the finale but pussies out and doesn’t use it.

Season 2 had the entire school harass a rich white girl because she and her sports team made an accidentally racist poster. Best part was that Muslim girl participated in creating the poster too but didn’t get in any trouble at all. In fact three episodes later she goes on a rant about microagressions despite commiting one herself.

Season 3 had an arc about refugees that was obviously influenced by Trump’s election despite being a Canadian show. They even name dropped Hillary at one point.

Season 4 had a girl suddenly become a genderspecial with they/them pronouns. I dropped it at this point but the show got cancelled anyways.

tl;dr Dropped Degrassi due to getting older and the show going from being about the struggles of teenage life to a political soap opera.

 

[MysticMisty]

Pokemon gets so much leeway with fans due to nostalgia; I can't believe you sat through a literal 500+ episodes of filler in Johto alone before Advanced was the last straw.
It took a whole hell of a lot shorter for me, honestly. Like, Orange Islands.

But yeah, you haven't missed much. The whole show is an intentional and perpetual status quo, and it's gone on so long, Ash is actually younger now than when he started, haha.

I gave up early in the Johto episodes, when they decided to drop everything they'd already been building to with the GS Ball and turn it into a (really shitty) movie instead. After that I only tuned in every once in a great while when I got wind of an episode actually doing something relevant to the game, or to watch one of the movies (for free online or on TV). I stopped all together before the series went to Hoenn, and stopped watching the movies a while after that.

Honestly it would've been better for Pokemon if they did like what Pokemon Special did and introduce new main characters based on other game protagonists. Introducing new supporting cast members doesn't count.

 

[Standardized Profile]

The first four seasons of Lost were great. Each payoff built elegantly on everything that came before, but also turned everything you thought you knew on its head and sent you scrambling in a new direction. It evoked almost religious feelings of wonder, dread, mystery, and discovery. The final payoff was sure to be something really, really good. Then the fifth season was basically Lost fanfic, and the sixth season was a letdown in every way. The finale was such a betrayal of the show's promise I can't even go back and rewatch the good episodes. But now I know the names Abrams, Lindelof, and Cuse, and I won't be fooled again.

Millennium started out as a criminal horror series. It was a true crime book with a pinch of the supernatural, filtered through the "millenniumistic" sense that Something Bad was coming.* It scared me, horrified me, and on rare occasions offered glimpses of such beauty and hope that I felt life is worth living even in the darkest possible world. Then Glen Morgan and James Wong took over in the second season, turned the Millennium Group into a weird cult, made things much goofier, focused too much on TEOTWAWKI, disappeared Frank's wife, and brought in Morgan's fiancee as the de facto second lead. But in their season finale they made an entire act a music video of her going insane, then ended the world, so I give them credit for that. The world was un-ended for the third season, but no one was paying attention by that point. I've made my peace with the second season, but can barely remember the third.

* Carter correctly predicted what that Something Bad was, but in the pilot episode of The Lone Gunmen.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Law & Order SVU: As soon as they brought in the two new characters (Detectives Amaro and Rollins) it wasn't the same as Benson's & Stabler's characters and chemistry they had together. Amaro and Rollins just come off as teenagers that are just pretending to play cops (not to mention I remember them complaining a lot about stupid shit).

In addition to the breakup of Benson & Stabler, Kragen and Munch left around the same time and the show's dynamic was never the same. Episodes seemed to focus more on the drama in the new characters' personal lives and less about the cases they were supposed to be solving.

The last straw for me was when the show got too obviously repetitive after that. The last full season I watched featured a two-part cliffhanger where Benson gets kindapped and possibly tortured as a hostage only to be conventiently rescued in part 2 to open the next season. A few episodes later in the new season, Benson is taken hostage again. After asking myself, "Didn't we just have this?" I shut the TV off and haven't watched a new episode since. I'm shocked to see that the show is still running.

Law & Order: Criminal Intent - the first five seasons are probably some of the best American police procedural stuff out there and the quality of each episode is really consistent. That consistency was because showrunner and main writer Rene Balcer either wrote or co-wrote every single episode. He then left after season five (and a few actors along with him) and the quality of the show immediately nosedived.

The episodes for the season(s) following Goren's firing and Eames' resignation definitely jumped the shark. It's telling that the powers that be brought the character pair back for one final mini-season in an attempt to give the show a proper sendoff even if the last episode felt like it was too underwhelming for what was intended to be the series finale.

As much as I liked the dynamic between alternate detectives Logan & Wheeler during the Goren/Eames absence, Detective Nichols replacing Logan just seemed too bland even if Jeff Goldblum is an accomplished actor.
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Add Chicago Fire to the list. It started off good enough but the show quickly devoted more time to who was sleeping with each other and the lesbian character's efforts to have a baby than it did actual fire/EMS calls.

 

[Commander X]

I remember the original BBC House of Cards production. Is the Netflix series directly inspired by it? Or nothing at all to do with it? I've never liked Keven Spacey (good instincts me, I guess) so didn't try it. Sounds like a trainwreck later on from what you've said.

BBC House of Cards: Ian Richardson is talking to the camera a lot, but it's never used as the "see how much smarter I am than everyone else" device that Spacey does. Spacey never accepted any script that did not revolve entirely around his character constantly flaunting his superior intelligence.

It introduces the main character as an old man who dutifully supported his party his entire career, never aspired to lead, and simply wants a posh top position as a reward in his twilight years.

Netflix: Spacey is introduced strangling his neighbor's injured dog.

BBC version: told the first story in 4 hours

Netflix: dragged it out by giving every side character their own drawn out story arc. Characters must choose between family and career! It's about as exciting as it sounds and an example when someone takes "show, don't tell" to mean "show EVERYTHING". With all this extra time to develop things, the Netflix version completely flubbed key traits and scenes.

BBC version: Urquhart decides to turn against the party because he's an old man near the end of his career after an entire life of loyalty, not content to be sidelined his last few years.

Netflix: Frank is an obvious power hungerer and it is no surprise when he decides to sabotage the president.

BBC version: Urquhart being told by the leader he just helped elect that the cabinet position promised him is going to someone else. The key scene in the entire series. With less than a quarter of the screen time for the whole series, the BBC version still manages to effectively build this. Foreshadowing as the Prime Minister brushes him off at a party, being forced to wait too long for his meeting, entering the room to find one of his rivals there with the Prime Minister, realizing something is wrong, politely but firmly reminding the PM of his promise then immediately acting loyal again while crushing his knuckles.

Netflix version: Spacey enters an office. You have no idea why he's even there. An adviser we don't know, not the president himself (taking away the entire impact and motivation behind the revenge scheme), flat out informs him he won't be getting the position with no tense buildup. Spacey starts swearing, throwing insults, and demanding to talk to someone else. It should have been immediately obvious he would be out to burn them yet later on they still try to copy the BBC scenes where they're scrambling trying to find out who is leaking damaging information to the press.