Shows you've had a falling out with - IE, they just suck now

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Millennium started out as a criminal horror series. It was a true crime book with a pinch of the supernatural, filtered through the "millenniumistic" sense that Something Bad was coming.* It scared me, horrified me, and on rare occasions offered glimpses of such beauty and hope that I felt life is worth living even in the darkest possible world. Then Glen Morgan and James Wong took over in the second season, turned the Millennium Group into a weird cult, made things much goofier, focused too much on TEOTWAWKI, disappeared Frank's wife, and brought in Morgan's fiancee as the de facto second lead. But in their season finale they made an entire act a music video of her going insane, then ended the world, so I give them credit for that. The world was un-ended for the third season, but no one was paying attention by that point. I've made my peace with the second season, but can barely remember the third.

* Carter correctly predicted what that Something Bad was, but in the pilot episode of The Lone Gunmen.
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It's funny. People seem to disagree on if the second season of Millennium is great or awful. People who loved the first season hated the change in direction, but others thought it was where the show hit its stride and became much more interesting.

Nobody disagrees on the third season being the weakest of the three, though. It actually has some great episodes and isn't that bad, but I think the schizophrenic nature of the show was undeniably a huge hurdle at that point. And since it never got another season, that remains Millennium's legacy: a show that ended prematurely and never settled into a firm identity.

In any case, it was a great show. And Lance Henricksen was truly great in it. The man has never gotten his due as an actor.

(Also, as an aside, I'm pretty sure Megan Gallagher was written out because she was sick of the role. I remember reading some interview with her years ago where she said she was essentially sick of being wallpaper in the bright, yellow house bookending the episodes. Not a very challenging role. They gave her that one episode where she was the star that was pretty damn good, but I guess wasn't enough.

It also occurs to me she had a very similar role in the first season of The Larry Sanders Show... after which she got the fuck out, or was fired, or whatever...)
 
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Kiwi Lime Pie said:
The last straw for me was when the show got too obviously repetitive after that. The last full season I watched featured a two-part cliffhanger where Benson gets kindapped and possibly tortured as a hostage only to be conventiently rescued in part 2 to open the next season. A few episodes later in the new season, Benson is taken hostage again. After asking myself, "Didn't we just have this?" I shut the TV off and haven't watched a new episode since. I'm shocked to see that the show is still running.
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Ew, really? I hate kidnapping episodes. Also why Benson of all people?! Wasn't it bad enough when she pretended to be an inmate in an earlier season she was almost raped by a patrol officer? No let's throw more traumatic shit at her I guess. 🤨
 
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With Elementary, yeah, the first season was surprisingly great but then it just sorta fizzled out. Season one had Sherlock's drug recovery arc, the Moriarty stuff, and Joan coming into her own as a detective, all of which progressed and ended fairly well by season's end. After that they didn't have much left to do. Maybe if they could've gotten Moriarty as a reoccurring character things would've been different but that didn't (and probably couldn't) happen.

For House, any time I rewatch it (which I do every few years because I genuinely like the show) I stop at the season six finale, which works okay-ish as a series finale. The seasons after it aren't bad but not really great, either. The first two seasons of the show I feel are the best and I think the reason for that is Hugh Laurie. From what I remember of articles and interviews from when the show was still on, he was actively involved behind the camera every step of the way in an episode's creation, from writing to directing to editing, but then (iirc) collapsed from exhaustion on the set during season three and thus decided to just focus on acting.
 
-The Walking Dead. By season 5 the series became a "wash, rinse and repeat" waste of episodes, and further it was an absolute bore of recycled characters and arcs.
-Doctor Who. After giving Moffat the benefit of doubt for 3-4 seasons, I concluded he is an asshole and ruined everything.

I only watched GoT until the end because I enjoyed how the writers were on a collision course with the sun. :story: What a magnificent trainwreck it was, the finale caused great REEEEEEEEEactions. :story:

Autumnal Equinox said:
Obligatory The Simpsons. Used to be a big fan. Started watching it around season 2. Kept with it until around season 16 when I started to lose interest. Saw the movie, a handful of newer episodes and it's just completely neutered from what it used to be.

I was a big X-Files fan. Got excited when I saw they were bringing it back, watched a bit of season 10 and left just feeling "meh" Not even that much into the original series anymore. Maybe it's just something teenage me loved and needs to stay in the past. I just find it too cheesy these days to really sit down and watch.
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Your trajectory regarding The Simpsons was exactly like mine. Same about X-Files. Are you me?
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The Handmaid’s Tale: season one was interesting, but it has definitely jumped the shark. How can Offred get away with all sorts of mischief, but others are being drowned and hanged? The last season was unwatchable.

It became tedious to watch after Scott Gimple decided he was God. Don’t get me wrong, the Darabont issue was fucked up and he brought a lot of talent to the table only for AMC to screw him over. Around season 6 everyone decided the Negan reveal was going to be awesome(!). It wasn’t. Negan was no more than a cardboard character. The savior war went on too long. Gimple decided to axe Chandler Riggs (Carl), and was so ridiculous in interviews that fans coined the phrase “Gimple speak”. Angela Kang replaced him and has done the best she can (and has put out some amazing episodes), but she’s trying to inject life into a dying corpse of a show. It’s unfortunate.

Whoever said Rick is dead, he’s not. There are movies in the works, which might actually be worse than him just dying.

Edit: I did enjoy when they first found Alexandria. Here is a safe place with fairly normal people, and they were all dealing with mistrust and PTSD. Now that is interesting.
 
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The Nothingness said:
I think I speak for everyone in saying the 13th season of It's Always Sunny is when they jumped the shark, especially with the season finale. I can't even recall if I saw any episodes from last season.
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I think the rot started in a bit earlier. Season 10 was when I first noticed the episodes going from mostly good to mostly average.
 
PotatoSalad4711 said:
Whoever said Rick is dead, he’s not. There are movies in the works, which might actually be worse than him just dying.
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I'm pretty sure he's dead and those flashback films are supposed to take place sometime between past episodes/seasons.

It's a really terrible idea that speaks to AMC's desperation.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
No, he's alive. It's not even ambiguous about whether he lives or dies in his 'final' episode.
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I'll take your word for it. Carl being killed off was the last straw for me. I hear people saying Kang is doing a great job, and it means absolutely nothing to me.
 
Arthur Morgan said:
When I was a kid I had a higher tolerance for being jerked around by anime. Hell, I sat through all of DBZ and GT. And I actually liked the Orange Islands arc because it was different enough to interest baby me. But Johto really wore me down because of how fucking long it was dragged out.

But yeah, I've heard about Ash finally winning a tournament after 20 fucking years. Jesus, that's dragged out.
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Story of my life. I sat through some anime when I was younger I could not even fathom the notion of doing so again.
At that stage in life, it's like "IT'S MY FAVORITE BRAND" and that's all that matters. Flaws, pacing, writing, none of it matters so long as it's THAT THING I LOVE.
 
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SSF2T Old User said:
Ew, really? I hate kidnapping episodes. Also why Benson of all people?! Wasn't it bad enough when she pretended to be an inmate in an earlier season she was almost raped by a patrol officer? No let's throw more traumatic shit at her I guess. 🤨
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It looks like this might have taken place at the end of season 14 and the start of season 15. You raise a good point in questioning why Benson seems to almost always be the one to get thrown through the wringer more and faring much worse than her coworkers, and it reinforces my previous point about plots getting too repetitive.
 
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House MD after the character became a tyrant sniiffing his own farts, getting high on his ego, and generally being a pre-Rick from Rick and Morty.
Dropped it after the show became another "who fucks who" shitshow.
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Tbf to the House writers, they saw the shark jump coming and tried to keep it fresh with new characters, but as great as Hugh Lawrie is, there's only so much you can do with the formula of SHERLOCK HOLMES BUT AN ASSHOLE DOCTOR before its gets stale.

Lisa Cuddy's tastefully Jewish MILF cleavage will never get stale though
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The Nothingness said:
I think I speak for everyone in saying the 13th season of It's Always Sunny is when they jumped the shark, especially with the season finale. I can't even recall if I saw any episodes from last season.
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I caught an episode recently and it had Mindy Kaling in it. Mindy Fucking Kaling, fatter and unfunnier than ever.

It was like watching an old friend you haven't seen in a while but now he's trooned out and also has stage 4 butt cancer.

F.
 
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Sexual Chocolate said:
I caught an episode recently and it had Mindy Kaling in it. Mindy Fucking Kaling, fatter and unfunnier than ever.

It was like watching an old friend you haven't seen in a while but now he's trooned out and also has stage 4 butt cancer.

F.
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She did get beaten in a battle of wits by sex doll Dennis. There are much shittier episodes in the new seasons than hers.
 
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(another) vote goes to star trek

It was pretty good in the early '00s, at least aside from the TNG movies after First Contact. ENT came along and tied up the loose ends, like explaining why the TOS Klingons didn't have raisin-textured foreheads. But then JJ "Cleaver Of Continuity" Abrams "rebooted" the series with the new movies, making it more like Star Wars. Then Discovery added spore drive, more grimdark, and SJW catering to the mix. Now there's Picard with the eye-gouging and even more grimdark. Also the continuity is a mess. So I'm glad I didn't keep up with the post-ENT series.

(also it's a good thing Futurama ended before Current Year)
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
(also it's a good thing Futurama ended before Current Year)
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Thank God, yes, it already had some fucking cringe leftist lines, even back when it was on.

*Bender goes back in time to the 2000s*
"Congratulations, Mr. Gore, your presidency is all but assured"
*Bender destroys ballot, so Gore loses*

Me: Fuck right off.
 
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The Walking Dead. I just got bored of it because it was the same routine everywhere. The first season felt like anything could happen. But then it gets really repetitive. I couldn't stomach anymore. I can't imagine how people still watch it. You know what it is? A soap opera for men!

I also didn't really watch this for that long, but Black Sails was such a disappointment. I was getting less and less happy with it with each episode, but I gave up on this one episode where a preacher has an affair. I realized that the show was nothing but sex and politics and episode after episode had gone by with no naval battles or even significant land battles. It was a waste of time, which is a real shame as a show about the Nassau Republic should be fascinating.

CivilianOfTheFandomWars said:
I stopped watching Rick and Morty after season three kept sucking it’s own dick.
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I wasn't huge into Rick and Morty or anything, but the tone of the show changed very obviously and became less fun. It went up its ass with character-driven stuff, which is engaging in one way, but isn't what made the show fun that people would want to watch it.

That one episode with Mortytown may be the best episode of anything I've ever seen, though.
 
That 70's show should have ended on the night they all graduated from high school. The whole show was nothing but a "Wonder Years" for teen stoners in the Disco Era, so there was really no reason for it to continue, other than as a cash grab. It doesn't help that they ran most of the plotlines off of the rails and gave Hyde a black Dad.

Modern reimaginings of Sherlock Holmes (or ones set in the far future) seem gimmicky to me. I fully expect the next Watson to be cast as a black trans dragonkin in a wheelchair. What I'm surprised we haven't seen so far is a series based around Moriarty as a viewpoint character. We've already had series with villain protagonists doing all kind of dodgy shit and getting audiences to love them for it. Why not a series about Moriarty starting his crime empire? It seems a shame that he mostly exists in adaptations to be a brief foil to Sherlock and then die. He's the Joker to Sherlock's Batman. There should be more to him than that.
 
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