Silent Hill

Only because of Konami. Let's not forget who fucked it up in the first place and years later they fucked it up again when they cancelled Silent Hills. We should have gotten Silent Hills but we live in the Clown Universe so that was never happening.

Konami is a bunch of retards.
Silent Hills was going to be shit regardless.
 
Bloober's going to do something heinous, like have you play as the painter who originally created "Misty day, remains of the judgment," causing some kind of stupid meta bootstrap paradox where Pyramid Head existed as a tormentor before James was ever even born, always existing in the town, rather than just a creation of James' after seeing a portrait based off of old executioners and their masks.
Hell, maybe they'll go full "fuck you" and tie it directly into Layers of Fear and have you play as the same artist from the first game or whatever. Bloober's games were already SH2 "inspired," now they can hook themselves into the legacy, like some kind of parasite.
 
Bloober's going to do something heinous, like have you play as the painter who originally created "Misty day, remains of the judgment," causing some kind of stupid meta bootstrap paradox where Pyramid Head existed as a tormentor before James was ever even born, always existing in the town, rather than just a creation of James' after seeing a portrait based off of old executioners and their masks.
Hell, maybe they'll go full "fuck you" and tie it directly into Layers of Fear and have you play as the same artist from the first game or whatever. Bloober's games were already SH2 "inspired," now they can hook themselves into the legacy, like some kind of parasite.
I don't think that's going to happen.

But I expect Layers of Fear easter eggs or even some stupid easter egg referring to the Bloob game where Bloober got its name from. Idk why but I have the feeling some retarded easter eggs will appear.
 
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And this is Hideo Kojima and Konami we're talking about.
It was built as a viral teaser first. There's no way that was going to be built backwards into a game that would bring back Silent Hill to the horror forefront again. Did I like Silent Hills? Yeah a lot. I just don't see in what universe that could be fleshed out into a game that was anymore than a jump scare game where it's entirely vague with what the player is supposed to do, like the teaser.

I think Death Stranding was a good indication that no matter what he was going to do with Del Toro, that it was going to be a pile of shit.
 
It was built as a viral teaser first. There's no way that was going to be built backwards into a game that would bring back Silent Hill to the horror forefront again. Did I like Silent Hills? Yeah a lot. I just don't see in what universe that could be fleshed out into a game that was anymore than a jump scare game where it's entirely vague with what the player is supposed to do, like the teaser.

I think Death Stranding was a good indication that no matter what he was going to do with Del Toro, that it was going to be a pile of shit.
And while marketing was positive, it was still going to end up like shit because this is Konami and Kojima we're talking about.
 
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I remember when they took it off the network and retards were buying PS4's that had it downloaded for like a grand.

You're actually fucking retarded.
Honestly, I had no interest in a faggy Koji silent hill. That is a man who is held up by better men who are not fame hungry whores. When he had his special Yank help make sense of his gay ninja porn, it churned out hit after hit. Once he dumped his yank, thinking he knew best, its been nothing but shit held by a sometimes interesting stealth game (a genre that is always crying for more).

No interest in this Jewish nonsense game, not sure why anyone thinks a good Silent Hill game can come out that isnt woke shit. Even the movies got their days woke (Bush and the Iraq invasion, also, white people bad (they couch that in "christian")). Same old same old.

The only time any horror series is good is when its away from the mainstream. Penumbra was good, Amnesia was decent enough but its gone to shit since then. The moment anything gets some traction is the moment it turns to shit. Enjoy SH 123 (4 and HC are ok for what they are) and just let it be. Signalis was awesome, looking forward to more of that.
 
It was built as a viral teaser first. There's no way that was going to be built backwards into a game that would bring back Silent Hill to the horror forefront again. Did I like Silent Hills? Yeah a lot. I just don't see in what universe that could be fleshed out into a game that was anymore than a jump scare game where it's entirely vague with what the player is supposed to do, like the teaser.

I think Death Stranding was a good indication that no matter what he was going to do with Del Toro, that it was going to be a pile of shit.
The thing is, P.T. wasn't even Silent Hills, it was a teaser like you said. I doubt that they even knew what the game would have been about. P.T. was just a gimmick, trying to appeal to the Outlast and other first-person jumpscare games. I don't think the real game would have been in first-person.
You're 100% right about Death Stranding. The funny thing about the game is that it's basically Metal Gear: Survive but with Hollywood actors.
 
I think Shattered memories was the last one I liked, sure its not really a silent hill game other than taking the names from the series, but I think its a good game, and works well as a stand alone thing.
Shattered Memories is perfectly serviceable. I play it on my wii sometimes, though not every year like the first 3. I even liked Origins. Though primarily because it was one of the few games I had for my stolen PSP.
Honestly, I had no interest in a faggy Koji silent hill. That is a man who is held up by better men who are not fame hungry whores. When he had his special Yank help make sense of his gay ninja porn, it churned out hit after hit. Once he dumped his yank, thinking he knew best, its been nothing but shit held by a sometimes interesting stealth game (a genre that is always crying for more).

PT was never Silent Hills. And regardless of how Koji would've made it come out, the fact is that he wasn't the only one working on it. You had both the Itos. Yamaoka. Del Toro. And a laundry list of people whose input would have dramatically made the game something at least worthwhile. At the very least, made a really passable game to renew interest in the series, maybe being handed off to people who would put absurd amounts of work into the next installment.
We had the golden standard in horror, which tarnished to brass over time by the installments made by people who think the series is only SH2. Then they were handed enough tools and money to make it gold again, before the rug was pulled out and it was left to rot. The consequences of Koji SH NOT happening are like 7 games ALL made by people who could not give the slightest fuck about making Silent Hill.
 
I was making the same point just now in the Metal Gear thread.

People imagine MGS1-3 and apply that era of Kojima to a imagined Silent Hill game. In reality we can look at MGSV and Death Stranding and assume that Silent Hills would have had more in common with these two games. I even wonder given the presence of Norman Reedus in both games if Kojima adapted some of his Silent Hills ideas into death stranding.
 
Shattered Memories is perfectly serviceable. I play it on my wii sometimes, though not every year like the first 3. I even liked Origins. Though primarily because it was one of the few games I had for my stolen PSP.


PT was never Silent Hills. And regardless of how Koji would've made it come out, the fact is that he wasn't the only one working on it. You had both the Itos. Yamaoka. Del Toro. And a laundry list of people whose input would have dramatically made the game something at least worthwhile. At the very least, made a really passable game to renew interest in the series, maybe being handed off to people who would put absurd amounts of work into the next installment.
We had the golden standard in horror, which tarnished to brass over time by the installments made by people who think the series is only SH2. Then they were handed enough tools and money to make it gold again, before the rug was pulled out and it was left to rot. The consequences of Koji SH NOT happening are like 7 games ALL made by people who could not give the slightest fuck about making Silent Hill.
Del Toro means nothing, he will whore out his name to anything. People remember his good shit whilst ignoring the larger collection of complete shit. Plus he is very sappy, he is not a good fit for Silent Hill. Koji also doesn't care who he works with, it would be an attempt for him to be a Hollywood starfucker all over again.

Silent Hill was born of the C team who had free reign to just explore a horror game, with little oversight and a cultural period that was very open to horror. Nowdays people are expecting A24 gay shit, rather than an actual game.

I really think SH is just done, it was never meant to be some massive franchise, just a simple story thats over now. This inability to make anything new and just harvesting any old IP you can rape is indicative of people raised on the equally empty Hollywood system. Alone in the dark will be the next one, then Fatal frame, then some other thing they can pretend to care about to exploit. Just ignore them, they are always shit.
 
I really think SH is just done, it was never meant to be some massive franchise, just a simple story thats over now. This inability to make anything new and just harvesting any old IP you can rape is indicative of people raised on the equally empty Hollywood system. Alone in the dark will be the next one, then Fatal frame, then some other thing they can pretend to care about to exploit. Just ignore them, they are always shit.
I think I can agree with this. I think SH is done. I don't want it to be, but it is. At the very least, it's only ever going to be a shambling corpse with brief sparks of life. I was intrigued by the Silent Hill F trailer. I wish it wasn't Silent Hill, since I don't want to know the level of fuckery which will be required to tie it into the already existing lore of the first 4 games. I also would like things to stop being remakes of things that already exist, there are so many current things that would be fine on their own if they just had a different name. SH Shattered Memories is a great example. Had it been named Cold Heart and had the names of the characters and towns changed, it probably would've been one of those "hidden gems" that people always talk about. As it is, it's just the least awful post-The Room turd. Unless you count the Novel for GBA, everyone forgets that one. It's fun. There are fan translations for it.
 
I think I can agree with this. I think SH is done. I don't want it to be, but it is. At the very least, it's only ever going to be a shambling corpse with brief sparks of life. I was intrigued by the Silent Hill F trailer. I wish it wasn't Silent Hill, since I don't want to know the level of fuckery which will be required to tie it into the already existing lore of the first 4 games. I also would like things to stop being remakes of things that already exist, there are so many current things that would be fine on their own if they just had a different name. SH Shattered Memories is a great example. Had it been named Cold Heart and had the names of the characters and towns changed, it probably would've been one of those "hidden gems" that people always talk about. As it is, it's just the least awful post-The Room turd. Unless you count the Novel for GBA, everyone forgets that one. It's fun. There are fan translations for it.
The series has been in decline ever since post SH2. Every single sequel following has consistently made less money than the one that proceeded it. That isn't to say that SH3-4 are bad, but it's a fact of reality it never hit a peak again.
 
You're 100% right about Death Stranding. The funny thing about the game is that it's basically Metal Gear: Survive but with Hollywood actors.
Kojima should just move to Hollywood and actually make a movie, because he's the perfect for shitty Hollywood writing.
 
I cant think of a less SH thing than giving someone or something a backstory. Even Born from a Wish was vague enough that a lot of stuff in it is left up for interpretation. Knowing well how western writers work, Pyramid Head will now be a tragic sad boi that was done wrong and now you must feel bad for him

Im really curious to see how they'll shit up Maria. Her character is meant to be James's ideallization of Mary. She is not her own person, she doesn't have any aspirations or hopes, she exists for James, she lives and dies because of James. There is never any self reflection about her own situation in the game. Born from a Wish (Title says it all) is about her accepting her role in James's journey
 
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