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ParasiteSteve said:
Yes I knew that, but also pointing out that Portished were not the only influence, and that trip hop sound was pretty big all over at the time and they likely had lots of influences.
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I magnify something particular I notice about a track that I listen to, and you're telling me he has other influences.

Next you'll tell me Masahiro Ito drew influence from Francis Bacon, Horst Janssen, Magdalena Abakanowicz. Or the writers of 2 drew from Fyodor Dostoevsky and essentially made their own Crime & Punishment tale chock full of key film inspirations that it wears on its sleeve and named streets after their inspirations. Sorry if I sound like a cunt but I'm well aware. I've scrubbed every nook and cranny. It ain't fun being a massive fan of an IP that its owners will never understand.
 
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Nameless One said:
I magnify something particular I notice about a track that I listen to, and you're telling me he has other influences.
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Next you'll tell me Masahiro Ito drew influence from Francis Bacon, Horst Janssen, Magdalena Abakanowicz. Or the writers of 2 drew from Fyodor Dostoevsky and essentially made their own Crime & Punishment tale chock full of key film inspirations that it wears on its sleeve and named streets after their inspirations. Sorry if I sound like a cunt but I'm well aware. I've scrubbed every nook and cranny. It ain't fun being a massive fan of an IP that its owners will never understand.
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It's OK bud, I might have come across as being cunty as well. We are both just two people who really love the original silent hill games. I remember leaving the first one play so I could enjoy the music, and wander around the town just to look and listen to things.
 
The tragedy of learning and loving everything about a series is running out of things to discuss aside from random shit about it and maybe some new things that pop up about them. I might go for 10 star rank runs for the first 4 and record them once I replay them more.
 
The Silent Hill team attempting a Project Zero esque game in terms of tone.
I think I briefly caught the line that Silent Hill had become "too Westernised", and that they wanted a different take on the franchise, whatever the fuck that means. The town LITERALLY takes place in the West, what the fuck else is it supposed to be? If you want a "Japanese Silent Hill", don't call it Silent Hill.
 
Saw the trailer on Discord, and supposedly the two lead devs, Ryukishi07 and Akira Yamoaka, are being celebrated because both are known for "trans and plural representation" in Higurashi When They Cry All.

Which doesn't make sense to me. Last I heard about Akira Yamoaka was him being cancelled by Jim Sterling for having worked on "alt right" AI game or something.


As for the game itself. My take is no gameplay = no hype.
 
Sicko Hunter said:
Allow people to enjoy things that you might not enjoy it.
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No.
Flopper said:
think I briefly caught the line that Silent Hill had become "too Westernised", and that they wanted a different take on the franchise, whatever the fuck that means.
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It's a common complaint from fans of the original in that the horror was approached like Western slasher horror films in the American games rather than the more subdued and psychological tone common in a lot of Japanese horror.

It's made a lot of sense, especially when we had shit like Homecoming and Downpour coming out. Homecoming has fucking SAW ripoff content in it and you are doing shit like fighting off monster sieges at police departments with shotguns, and Downpour is full of spooky scary smiling men who go "OOGA BOOGA BOOGA!" and pull out their dick to scare you when you walk by.

It's STILL kind of true because Bloober is a Westoid dev who remade SH2 and their chief ideas were to give James combo attacks and to make it play like RE4.
Soycast Guy said:
That’s what siren was but I guess it wouldn’t be very profitable for Konami to not milk the silent hill name dry.
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Silent Hill could very easily take place in other locations but something will be lost without the weird Jap interpretation of small-town American aesthetic.

Regardless, the game doesn't really seem very Silent Hilly to me, for lack of a better term. There's fog, otherworld, but the monsters don't seem terribly creative. Still, I would much rather they do something different than keep raping the IP as it is now.
 
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I think this new Silent Hill F game will be okay... after years of being force fed woke gay shit, trans, blm, feminism, girl bosses etc in games, this game just feels like fresh air. But i bet the modern audiences are already pissing their pants after reading this :story:

This game contains depictions of gender discrimination, bullying, drug-induced hallucinations, torture, and graphic violence.

This game is set in Japan in the 1960s and contains depictions based on the customs and culture of that time. These depictions do not reflect the opinions or values of the developers or any individuals involved.

If you feel uncomfortable at any point while playing, please take a break from playing or speak to someone you trust.
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Deus Exica said:
Regardless, the game doesn't really seem very Silent Hilly to me, for lack of a better term. There's fog, otherworld, but the monsters don't seem terribly creative. Still, I would much rather they do something different than keep raping the IP as it is now.
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Something I've said before, but bares repeating. Silent Hill is fucked as a franchise, because even the OG Silent Hill games are not very Silent Hill. For a lot of people, especially SH fans, the games begin and end with SH2.

SH2 worked because of a shocking plot twist, and doing things that hadn't really been done in gaming before. Now SH is caught between featuring SH2s mascots (Pyramid Head, James, Maria, sexy zombie nurses, protagonist with a dark past) and going back to it's roots (goofy cult nonsense, film references, beating monsters to death with rusty pipes). People don't like to admit that SH1 had strafing in it, changing that to a dodge button isn't really a big departure. SH3 had you mowing down zombie dogs with a machine gun, and for completing the game you unlocked a laser sword and a number of joke outfits.

My point is, SH has, and likely always will, suffer from an identity crisis. While I agree the game seems more Project Zero than Silent Hill, at least it's not Pyramid Head and a James knock off.

Hermione Granger said:
I think this new Silent Hill F game will be okay... after years of being force fed woke gay shit, trans, blm, feminism, girl bosses etc in games, this game just feels like fresh air. But i bet the modern audiences are already pissing their pants after reading this
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I've been hesitant to say this, but I think the opposite is going to happen. Seeing the trailer, I expect this game will get censored by localizers. Unless the claim that the writers previous work was all LGBTQDEI+ shit is true, in which case "gender discrimination, bullying," will be a heavy handed story about being picked on for being trans or whatever.
 
cactus said:
"We totally weren't trying to splice Fatal Frame and Siren into one game, nosiree."
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You say that like it's a bad thing.

Agreed that the transporting from North America to 1960s Japan is a bizarre choice because half the charm comes from then nips imprinting their own westaboo, twin peaks sensibilities onto the setting. I think that this is kinda similar to then situation with nuPrey from a few years ago regarding the name: if this had been called anything but Silent Hill there'd be a lot less animosity toward an otherwise pretty okay looking horror game.

Remains to be seen what we end up with, of course. For what it's worth it looks cool to me and I want them to stick the landing.
 
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