SJW Art and Extremes

RetardedDuck · Dec 2, 2021

Kiwilurk said:
Any time I see you guys saying "they made this murderer/evil/horrible person/character a tranny lol" makes me wonder if the people drawing them as trannies even watched/played/Read the source material.

Trannies really don't care about the source material, they only care about "owning the transphobes" by headcanoning any character as trans to piss them off. Even if they do know said source material, they'd probably "fix" it by troonifying all of the characters.

Anytime a tranny headcanons a villain as trans, they will never think twice at all. Ironic that they want to be taken seriously but headcanoning evil villains isn't gonna help at all.

Ghost Boy · Dec 3, 2021

Princess Peaches said:
To be fair to Grell it’s confirmed he’s actually a tranny by the mangaka.
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if this was written on the wiki, im taking that shit with a grain of salt.

Lapis Lazuli · Dec 3, 2021

Ghost Boy said:
if this was written on the wiki, im taking that shit with a grain of salt.

Fan wikias have a reputation for being unreliable. Since any autist can edit a page, you can expect people to insert their headcanons and treat it like it's canon. This is usually frowned upon on for obvious reasons... unless it's the mods doing this.

I've brung this up a couple of times, but the Cookie Run wikia is a prime example of this, ranging from someone trying to imply that Dark Enchantress Cookie goes by "it/its" to people engaging in slapfights over Sorbet Shark Cookie being "non-binary". Someone tried changing it to "unspecified" but they complained about it and the mods changed it back to "non-binary".

Biology Book · Dec 3, 2021

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creamy cookies said:
the gay murderer that kills women and steals their wombs is a tranny. how progressive and totally not a harmful representation!

+ in manga,.which was supposed to be yaoi first. And have a few yaoi References (eg; that corset scene)

Antis in this anime are making me so much laugh, because of fact, that Yana Toboso (mangaka) made a literal shotacon manga in same year (Glamorous Lip)

@Lapis Lazuli I heard that Fandom (the wiki site) became SJW-y

Elpizo · Dec 3, 2021

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+ in manga,.which was supposed to be yaoi first. And have a few yaoi References (eg; that corset scene)

Antis in this anime are making me so much laugh, because of fact, that Yana Toboso (mangaka) made a literal shotacon manga in same year (Glamorous Lip)

@Lapis Lazuli I heard that Fandom (the wiki site) became SJW-y

Like I said, the dub to SKunt was a mistake. Let's put the blame on Funimation for adding in woke shit in a skateboarding anime.

KyouKasoya · Dec 3, 2021

Princess Peaches said:
To be fair to Grell it’s confirmed he’s actually a tranny by the mangaka.
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I am by no means a Black Butler fan but for a completely unrelated reason a whiiile ago I looked for sources regarding Grell's gender, and a claim by the author WITH JAPANESE TEXT FOR COMPARISON claimed Grell was an okama. Which is basically an effeminate gay man.
Now, maybe the author changed her mind, but unless there is Japanese text for comparison this time around as well, I call "convenient translation".

Newman's Lovechild · Dec 3, 2021

'Gender affirming surgery'

'Affirming'

'''Affirming'''

I think this is the first time I've heard it described like that. It's difficult to think of many things more confusing, deceptive and destabilising.

A Dumb Rock said:
Ironic that they want to be taken seriously but headcanoning evil villains isn't gonna help at all.

Shit, never mind villains. Obsessively headcanoning cartoon characters with associated ugly, shitty art puts a big enough lie to their attempts to be taken seriously.

Mao Hao Hao · Dec 3, 2021

creamy cookies said:
the gay murderer that kills women and steals their wombs is a tranny. how progressive and totally not a harmful representation!

To be fair, that wasn't entirely Grell but Angelina Dalles-Burnett, who had been killing prostitutes for a while before encountering Grell, who took pity on her due to her situation/reasoning for killing them, so decided to help and also became her butler. (she was performing abortions for the prostitutes, but eventually snapped as she had an accident in a carriage that caused her to lose both her unborn baby and her uterus/ovaries and couldn't take them being so flippant about pregnancies). Still, definitely not the best representation for trans people.

TokiBun · Dec 3, 2021

Ghost Boy said:
if this was written on the wiki, im taking that shit with a grain of salt.

Here’s some more proof:

ToddleDoddle · Dec 3, 2021

nennexx said:
did they not play the game? chihiros entire character arc is about him wanting to become more manly

Yeah, it's worse than randomly declaring a character as trans. Chihiro actively didn't want to be a woman but dressed as one to avoid bullying for being too weak. They are forcing the character to be something he doesn't want to be.

Kiwilurk · Dec 3, 2021

ToddleDoddle said:
Yeah, it's worse than randomly declaring a character as trans. Chihiro actively didn't want to be a woman but dressed as one to avoid bullying for being too weak. They are forcing the character to be something he doesn't want to be.

Its something I see often. A male character dresses like a girl and these people declare him trans (or in some cases gender fluid), when the clear intention was for just a gag, or in the case of Chihiro, more out of necessity rather than actually wanting to do it.
And these are the same idiots that say "clothes have no gender"

creamy cookies · Dec 3, 2021

Princess Peaches said:
Here’s some more proof:
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i mean i have no qualms since that's the actual translation, as far as i know he's always meant to be a mentally ill okama and all that shit is just part of his mental illness. take him however you want

what i do have a problem with is the murder part, you'd think these people would have been turned away from the source material because of it and would have given it another thought rather than slap the trans flag over him as if he's anything less than an active accomplice in murder.

when did it go from the need for more representation to accepting creepy murderers as trans? i thought implying trans people are murderers is transphobic?

then again, mentally ill is what describes these people the most as well so maybe that should be the end of it.

back on topic of the thread, i just wanna say i'm glad to see the dumb art clout trends made by our art cows die off completely upon searching, like mikusonamonday/mikumonday (made by destinytomoon and mikumikuebooks respectively). no more sullying of a blank slate character in the first place to prove a political point, yay!

Smooth Brained · Dec 3, 2021

Why would these people even like Black butler? I thought it was problematic, you know, with how it portrays trans people and is purportedly created by a shotacon who creates bl content and is female (which would be a point of contention for them, except they don't care about being hypocritical when it comes to things they like. Seperate art from artist until the art is something you dislike then it's okay to shit on people liking said thing)

BezMemow · Dec 3, 2021

Elpizo · Dec 3, 2021

BezMemow said:
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Sparkledogs; not even once.

Lapis Lazuli · Dec 3, 2021

BezMemow said:
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How did Kittydog not improve in her art over the past few years? Seriously, that doodle on the bottom right looks like how she drew 3 years ago. The only real difference is that her OC is even more overdesigned and she's turned into a genderspecial. Wonder what she's doing now.

BezMemow · Dec 3, 2021

SWETHORT · Dec 3, 2021

Lapis Lazuli said:
How did Kittydog not improve in her art over the past few years? Seriously, that doodle on the bottom right looks like how she drew 3 years ago. The only real difference is that her OC is even more overdesigned and she's turned into a genderspecial. Wonder what she's doing now.

it's more surprising when you consider she's 18 (turning 19 in february) and still isn't past the whole "OMG WAFFULZ HAHA RANDOM XD" shit. i understand if it's to appeal to an audience, as most of her followers are young, but i've seen her name pop up a lot in dni lists. here's a direct link to her carrd. just a mild bit of cringe, but still surprising how she hasn't changed in 3+ years.

Lapis Lazuli · Dec 3, 2021

BezMemow said:
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Imagine making a tranny character and not even using the correct flag, lol.
Both of these charactere are incredibly boring and generic. You have the uwu soft boi and the sensitive one with a dark side. And by the way, obscuring your character's face with scribbles doesn't make her "faceless" (unless this ks alluding to some sort of ~tragic past~) by that definition characters wearing masks or hoods would be "faceless".

Also, what's with these people and their obsession with demons if they never do anything interesting with the concept? Just make the species "monster" at that point.

151 said:
it's more surprising when you consider she's 18 (turning 19 in february) and still isn't past the whole "OMG WAFFULZ HAHA RANDOM XD" shit. i understand if it's to appeal to an audience, as most of her followers are young, but i've seen her name pop up a lot in dni lists. here's a direct link to her carrd. just a mild bit of cringe, but still surprising how she hasn't changed in 3+ years.

When you search her name up in YouTube the first result that pops up is Kittydog drama.

She's a proshipper and mocked people for putting "tw // kittydog" in their posts.