SJW Art and Extremes

[Derwe lono]

Now this is prime avatar material right here. Almost a trollface, this vintage meme.
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Also, why is almost everything this guy draws looks like it's two steps away from becoming a WW2 era racial caricature?

 

[MrHoneyBadger]

This has been asked multiple times in multiple threads, so I'll attempt an effort post in the hopes that it can just be linked back whenever this question crops up.

Thank you! This was actually pretty interesting to read.

 

[Owlflaps]

Spoiler: Leave Sonico alone weirdo

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I'm getting Luna Slater vibes and I hate it. Thanks.

 

[Po's Cootah]

This has been asked multiple times in multiple threads, so I'll attempt an effort post in the hopes that it can just be linked back whenever this question crops up.

Spoiler: Long Stupid Rant

The first and biggest is lack of proper study. Meaning, no study from life, and no study from the masters. Of the two, study from life is the more important one, but both are important if you want to improve.

Diligent, detailed study of real life helps you learn what things actually look like in the real world; this is harder than it sounds. Right now, picture the door to your bedroom. Got it? Good. Now, how detailed was your imagining? Did you remember any architectural flourishes on the door itself, the whorls of the wood grain or the scratches, the style of handle, any designs or scratches on the handle, overpaint on the door latch, that dirty glue residue from that stupid decal you put there years ago and then peeled off? Things are always more complicated than we remember them. This is why you learn from life.

But because things are so complex that they become hard to paint. This is where studying masters comes in. By studying other, more proficient artists, you can learn methods and shortcuts to simplify things down so you can actually render them. If I asked you to make me a painting of your bedroom door, maybe you don't need to intricately detail every single whorl of the wood grain; maybe just a little paint of the right color applied with the right brush will give the *illusion* of wood grain.

This tug between lifelike realism and simplification can be called "style". By studying masters, you learn different styles and how to implement them in an aesthetically pleasing manner.

Next failing of what we might call the SJW artist is lack of proper foundation. Unfortunately, many art schools and programs are glorified babysitters. After all, the student is the customer, and don't you know that art is subjective, man? So many art programs grade the student by the student's own subjective improvement, not by hitting certain external milestones in terms of technique. In short, all too often an art degree is a giant "You Tried!" sticker that sets you back about 100 grand. This is bad because it doesn't teach healthy or constructive art habits, and in art, your habits become your skill. I have seen better art come out of self-taught idiots on the internet than come out of serious art students, because those self-taught idiots are the ones actually putting in the effort to improve and setting healthy art goals for themselves.

And the final issue is the fact that they're addicted to social media. Social media is widely regarded as a necessary evil for artists. But Twitter and Instagram, the two biggest places to get discovered as an artist these days, are both shit. They prioritize new over old content, leaving many artists feeling like they have to keep producing, often at the detriment of the work they put out. This quantity over quality approach can rapidly degrade your skills if you don't make a habit of setting aside time to deliberately improve them.

And that's before we consider the fact that social media is full of, let's face it, children. And children have very simplistic tastes in art, and not all of it looks especially pleasing to an adult eye. Consider the very saturated, almost garish colors of you average children's cartoon. Remember how we mentioned studying from masters? Well, if your "masters" are all children's media, you're naturally going to degrade down to the child's level. (If you're now wondering how cartoonists and children's book artists manage to maintain their skills, well, they're usually doing life drawing in their spare time).

So what we have are a group of artists who aren't learning how things actually look, aren't trying to learn tested methods from established experts, don't have a solid foundation in their skills, never developed good habits, are incentivized to make lots of mediocre art over fewer pieces of higher quality, and have surrounded themselves with art of a technically lower quality.

Tl;dr: they're lazy, stupid, and childish.

This rant is not stupid, it's genuinely good advice for artists (including me, as a hobby and as someone who's learning, I really need to draw life), I just hate when SJWs prioritize diversity over everything else in art.

 

[Owlflaps]

This rant is not stupid, it's genuinely good advice for artists (including me, as a hobby and as someone who's learning, I really need to draw life), I just hate when SJWs prioritize diversity over everything else in art.

I'm a hobby level artist and reading this has given me some motivation. Thanks.

 

[Po's Cootah]

I'm a hobby level artist and reading this has given me some motivation. Thanks.

I know, and a big mistake a lot of hobby level artists or beginning artists and I made was not to draw life and learn it all from cartoons, only drawing cartoons. But... Are SJWs even capable of learning from mistakes in art? Since some specimen like Rory made their art even worse after college.

 

[Noebel]

I just hate when SJWs prioritize diversity over everything else in art

I'd speculate it's because most of them has nothing else going for their art. There are many funny memes that are drawn in MSpaint with a mouse, for example. There are redeeming factors.
There are hardly any redeeming factors in the most pieces we see here, and if there are, it's oftenly not due to the artists vision. My problem with this is that people with some potential(oftenly children) can be indoctrinated into such worldview, which, in the best case scenario, would hinder their progress for a few years.

 

[RazorBackBacon]

I'm a hobby level artist and reading this has given me some motivation. Thanks.

I know, and a big mistake a lot of hobby level artists or beginning artists and I made was not to draw life and learn it all from cartoons, only drawing cartoons. But... Are SJWs even capable of learning from mistakes in art? Since some specimen like Rory made their art even worse after college.

Shit man I love cartoons, you do you. But studying is important in art, otherwise you stagnate. Or worse, backslide.

Hell some of the best cartoonists make a point of life studies. Bill Waterson would do landscapes and nature sketches whenever not working on Calvin and Hobbes. The Disney team behind Lion King did thousands of animal sketches.

 

[Kiwilurk]

All of this makes me think of tutorials and art tips I see on instagram and pinterest.
People get very defensive to the point of throwing petty insults to the artist and their art.
Most of the time they say crap like "Its my art style" "dont tell me what to do" "you are an asshole elitist" "both are valid! (when they show what people often do wrong)
I think a lot of people take simple art tips and suggestions as personal attacks.

Oh and may God have mercy on your soul if you DARE to say there are anatomical differences between males and females.

 

[Po's Cootah]

All of this makes me think of tutorials and art tips I see on instagram and pinterest.
People get very defensive to the point of throwing petty insults to the artist and their art.
Most of the time they say crap like "Its my art style" "dont tell me what to do" "you are an asshole elitist" "both are valid! (when they show what people often do wrong)
I think a lot of people take simple art tips and suggestions as personal attacks.

Oh and may God have mercy on your soul if you DARE to say there are anatomical differences between males and females.

Yeah...

 

[Biology Book]

Spoiler: They are from yesterday, but ok

 

[Gold-Surf]

Spoiler: They are from yesterday, but ok

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"Boohoo, someone called my art racist, because I blackifed asian character and not only that but I am xenophobic all because someone poked fun at me" you sensitive little bitch, get a life.

 

[Noebel]

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Oh, I think I can elaborate on that. In USSR(and in modern russian) an accepted term for black people is "negr" which means negro. Its magnitude is, as far as I know, the same as calling black person black in the anglosphere country. And calling somebody black in russian at our days would bear wierd connotations. Less wierd than before VHSes became more abundant as well as american movies with crude voice-overs, but still not an often-used thing, and back back then black was associated with bad stuff in general, like supernatural shit etc. Now it would come off as ostentatiously 'merican. So, I assume this person was called "negr" a few times. However, there are indeed an amount of slurs for black people(like "gutalin(black shoe-polish)", "blackass", thanks to cultural exchange an actual n-word can be used, etc.), and this person might've been called these too, so it's hard to judge without additional context.

Now, some more precise insight. On the first screen, it is written "BSU 2nd course". I feel that BSU stands for Belarusian State University. That explains 2nd course, which would mean being at the second year of studying there. Makes sence where this dude was called negr. However, that doesn't make sence, considering this dude lists his age at 13, which is way too early for applying. Maybe I just don't know how instagram works.

 

[Chrom]

Spoiler: They are from yesterday, but ok

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Speaking of Dodlgvo , I googled her account name and found a bunch more links, so I will also upload them here.

Spoiler: informational archive

TIKTOK: dodlgvo
Master Carrd that links to all her other carrds (WIP): yassificationofjohnny.carrd.co
Carrd 1: bpdsarada.carrd.co [dni] [lists] [kins]
Carrd 1 RENTRY: rentry.co/sarada (List of all her friends and their kins)
Carrd 2: (Refer to my previous post regarding her.) nagatouzumaki.carrd.co
Carrd 3: shikamigga.carrd.co (WIP)
Carrd 4: donklee.carrd.co ["lovemail" for friends]
Her friends (ALL INSTAGRAM HANDLES):
Kat - kindadeceasedd
Norton - nortoncatbell
"Jeff" - vampireisakuma (jeffreywoods.carrd.co [next page] ["lovemail"] / pronouny.xyz/u/reisakumairl)
"Leon" - malewifejotaro
Ceren - crayola_field_trip (crayolaexperiencee.carrd.co [dni/byf] [kins])

Googling "dodlgvo" on Google Images already turns up screenshots of her "art" on the 1st row. Wonder when she'll notice?

Bonus new art from her:

"BSU 2nd course". I feel that BSU stands for Belarusian State University.

@Noebel You may be correct, but I think that the person who COMMENTED it (maylwer) is the one who attends, not Dodlgvo herself.

 

[Jerk Ingoff Y2K]

To whoever drew this, Sam and Max were always cis males.

 

[Biology Book]

Spoiler: Pinterest is goldmine for cringe headcanons

Oh, I think I can elaborate on that. In USSR(and in modern russian) an accepted term for black people is "negr" which means negro. Its magnitude is, as far as I know, the same as calling black person black in the anglosphere country. And calling somebody black in russian at our days would bear wierd connotations. Less wierd than before VHSes became more abundant as well as american movies with crude voice-overs, but still not an often-used thing, and back back then black was associated with bad stuff in general, like supernatural shit etc. Now it would come off as ostentatiously 'merican. So, I assume this person was called "negr" a few times. However, there are indeed an amount of slurs for black people(like "gutalin(black shoe-polish)", "blackass", thanks to cultural exchange an actual n-word can be used, etc.), and this person might've been called these too, so it's hard to judge without additional context.

Now, some more precise insight. On the first screen, it is written "BSU 2nd course". I feel that BSU stands for Belarusian State University. That explains 2nd course, which would mean being at the second year of studying there. Makes sence where this dude was called negr. However, that doesn't make sence, considering this dude lists his age at 13, which is way too early for applying. Maybe I just don't know how instagram works.

Small funfact: In my country there is a common/colloqual word for black people: Murzyn. Besides the BLM activist and "muh racism", (they are comparing Murzyn to infamous n-word, which is total bullshit, because "Murzyn cames from "Maur") this word is neutral-adjective (depends od context) and majority of Black people living in Poland don't give a total f..., they just don't like using that with negative context.

There is always One thing about dudebros/people like maylwer: they have a balls to tell this artist, that thier art is bad. They don't have to use KF to Express thier negative opinion. They just telling them into to face.

 

[BezMemow]

Spoiler: Pinterest is goldmine for cringe headcanons

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Small funfact: In my country there is a common/colloqual word for black people: Murzyn. Besides the BLM activist and "muh racism", (they are comparing Murzyn to infamous n-word, which is total bullshit, because "Murzyn cames from "Maur") this word is neutral-adjective (depends od context) and majority of Black people living in Poland don't give a total f..., they just don't like using that with negative context.

There is always One thing about dudebros/people like maylwer: they have a balls to tell this artist, that thier art is bad. They don't have to use KF to Express thier negative opinion. They just telling them into to face.

Not a single headcanon is straight and cis, are people scared of being normal? Is this what it's all about? Or are they searching for validation they didn't find when they were normal?

 

[Po's Cootah]

Not a single headcanon is straight and cis, are people scared of being normal? Is this what it's all about? Or are they searching for validation they didn't find when they were normal?

They think being straight and cis is "boring"

 

[Firewater]

Speaking of Dodlgvo , I googled her account name and found a bunch more links, so I will also upload them here.

Spoiler: informational archive

TIKTOK: dodlgvo
Master Carrd that links to all her other carrds (WIP): yassificationofjohnny.carrd.co
Carrd 1: bpdsarada.carrd.co [dni] [lists] [kins]
Carrd 1 RENTRY: rentry.co/sarada (List of all her friends and their kins)
Carrd 2: (Refer to my previous post regarding her.) nagatouzumaki.carrd.co
Carrd 3: shikamigga.carrd.co (WIP)
Carrd 4: donklee.carrd.co ["lovemail" for friends]
Her friends (ALL INSTAGRAM HANDLES):
Kat - kindadeceasedd
Norton - nortoncatbell
"Jeff" - vampireisakuma (jeffreywoods.carrd.co [next page] ["lovemail"] / pronouny.xyz/u/reisakumairl)
"Leon" - malewifejotaro
Ceren - crayola_field_trip (crayolaexperiencee.carrd.co [dni/byf] [kins])

Googling "dodlgvo" on Google Images already turns up screenshots of her "art" on the 1st row. Wonder when she'll notice?

Bonus new art from her:
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They think being straight and cis is "boring"

If only they knew that there's a whole world of possibilities and opportunities waiting out there to be seized and explored... but these pussies are always too afraid or too brainwashed to venture outside of their bubbles.

 

[Somerandoontheweb]

I'll never understand the weird pride in these edits. You're literally recoloring someone's else work.

Spoiler

Spoiler: More blackwashing

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