SJW Art and Extremes

Why does Tumblr have an obsession with vitiligo?

  • Suicide Girl model and America's Next Top Model contestant have it, spread on Tumblr, that's why.

    Votes: 669 16.2%
  • Stop fucking asking this this question.

    Votes: 480 11.6%
  • I swear to God I will start deleting these posts.

    Votes: 146 3.5%
  • Goddammit.

    Votes: 393 9.5%
  • ACTUALLY IT'S PART OF A DEEP FALSE-FLAG OPERATION TO TURN ALL BLACK PEOPLE WHITE.

    Votes: 2,441 59.1%

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The main problem with pitches like these is that it tells us NOTHING about the characters. Not about who they are as people or what they're interested in. Not even about what common things that the audience knows of that might be considered unique to them. This isn't considered vital information to share...but their sexuality/gender is?

I'm not even saying that can't be important to that character within their own right. Of course it can, but that's for later storytelling opportunities further down the line. Right now, the characters should be able to stand on their own since the audience doesn't know much about them yet. If you were to remove their name, gender, interests, likes, etc...what are you showing to the audience about them that you can't say with words? That IS strong shape language, movement, flow, color palettes, etc! All of this is important for people to instantly gauge who your characters are as people and how we can (or can not) relate to them. This goes for villains, heroes, anti-heroes, and almost all characters alike. Not every character needs to be conventionally attractive, but they need some sort of appeal. Something to really draw the audience in.

Right now, I have a hard time telling who these characters are other than Tokens, sadly. The concept art is pretty alright telling us the character's actions, but they don't really show anything about who they are. Using shape language could really help with this, but what you do get is not distinct enough to stand out. Why does this MC wear a skirt when they have shorts over tights already? Shorts over tights is a cute style, but it just seems pointless when you have layers of fabric you need to consider now EVERY TIME you draw a character kicking or doing some tricks. You tend to keep those things simple because when you later animate them, you aren't having to deal with 100's of layers of frills and laces. Having patterned leggings underneath can already be a hassle to replicate without duplicating, but then shorts with a dress on top? It's not a bad thing in itself (it could show the character's quirkiness), but it seems like a lot of additional work that you don't need to create for yourself.

As for the other characters, they suffer from this color palette issue too. Notice the lack of Main Colors, Sub Colors and Accents. Just a blob of contrasting colors. Your eyes can't really focus on anything because there's nothing to focus on. It's a problem we've seen with some of the art in this thread. Having that lack of cohesion really throws off the visuals. I really don't get why so many of these types of artworks have this issue, but it's frankly jarring.
 
MarcyBones recently "ended" the thread with this:
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In short, this is what happens when an artist only gets constant praise for his or her work.
And that is why it's better to stay out of the artist community and stay close to people that actually care about you and your work. When did the artist community turn into an echo chamber of asspats and frail egos? For fucks sake, people gotta learn to take criticism and how it's just another way to improve and learn from others. Don't take criticism to heart but also don't dismiss it. I kinda stay on the same theory that a meagre following will make these people feel like divas and how they are above everything.

Also, when can we make a short series about Lolcows to teach everyone the many dangers of egocentrism, political derangement and the like. I bet it's more needed than "Tumblr's original works Nº103".
 
I'm sorry for being late, but I found this doujin on Myreadingmanga and OMG this is soo hillarously bad
and something other than r34 in Western tag , and the author was metioned earlier in this thread (page 1720)
+ creator is really anti-fujo (+JonaWagon shipper, but this is less important)
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To be honest the cover is bad, not interesting I never thought about reading this, before the drama and the rewiev made by
@jojoshipsdaily on Instagram
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OK, but why did you done this ? And the topics are metioned like....a in the 1 picture XD. Plus why Kakyoin looks like a 70-yeard old man ?. And yeah I'm not gonna say about the anti-fujo rhetoric, because everyone in the comment section said this earlier, bonus this comic was probably posted without her permission, so she explained this and tried to delete this, but MRM doesn't done that
(ah yes the Yumerimu Megami/Dreaming Goddess scandal from 2017).
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OK this page isn't that hideous, but don't be too excited

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I'm not into perspective, so I'm gonna gush the first ilustration
this illustration is gonna haunt me in nightmares xd
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So that means, that Kakyoin doesn't write letters, e-mails, or phone calls ?? Just like hello logic ???
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Again this page is kinda goodly drawn, so...
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I don't read Stone Ocean, but is this Jolyne is sceptic about dad, because He was busy and absent in her life ???
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(Insert that Idubbz I'm gay image)
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The background is empty, It looks like the house in indecorating just like If She would draw more details, the comic would be look more professional/better. Because of the emptiness I decided to add someting, to see what comic would look with these details.
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im lazy asf to add more ok ?
+ ah yes the Jebać Disa & kono dio da joke
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Yes I don't showed the bonus drawings,/ a probably few pages but they mean nothing in the plot
Yes MRM has a large collection of not R18 doujins. Not all doujins are Porn. Just read e.g; All the same, The Ocean gently stilled, Stray Birds, or Before the Ticket Gate at 10 A.M and avoid the sexual tags, to prove that not all BL fancomics are straight up porn

If I would be comment that doujin in the few words I would say too fast. This comic needs more explatations nad less preachy, anti-fujo bullshit in the scenario layer. On the drawing side you need to work with perspective, backgrounds, expression. If you want to draw comic, that has more elements than dialogue you needs more experience. This had a potential, but this was ruined by her wievs, behaviors and amateur art with writing.
https://myreadingmanga.info/binkpinkie-reconnect-jojo-dj-eng/ - The comic link with comments about Fujoshi term
+ Bonus Jouta and her anti-fujo sperging
like If she are Anti-fujo, just why did you draw the fan-charachter made by fujos (When the CLAMP was came out the Clamp group made the BL doujins from JJBA and Devilman, even the one Doujin was issued in Poland in 2004 and became mainstream ( I'm talking about Wish by CLAMP) and they claimed themselfs as a Fujos), but I think this is a problem with whole Western Jotakak community, because I saw more people like her
 

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like If she are Anti-fujo, just why did you draw the fan-charachter made by fujos (When the CLAMP was came out the Clamp group made the BL doujins from JJBA and Devilman, even the one Doujin was issued in Poland in 2004 and became mainstream ( I'm talking about Wish by CLAMP) and they claimed themselfs as a Fujos), but I think this is a problem with whole Western Jotakak community, because I saw more people like her
There's a possibility that she's either a fujo in denial, or was a fujo before she fell deep into the WOKE HOLE
 
I'm sorry for being late, but I found this doujin on Myreadingmanga and OMG this is soo hillarously bad
and something other than r34 in Western tag , and the author was metioned earlier in this thread (page 1720)
+ creator is really anti-fujo (+JonaWagon shipper, but this is less important)
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To be honest the cover is bad, not interesting I never thought about reading this, before the drama and the rewiev.
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OK, but why did you done this ? And the topics are metioned like....a in the 1 picture XD. Plus why Kakyoin looks like a 70-yeard old man ?. And yeah I'm not gonna say about the anti-fujo rhetoric, because everyone in the comment section said this earlier, bonus this comic was probably posted without her permission, so she explained this and tried to delete this, but MRM doesn't done that
(ah yes the Yumerimu Megami/Dreaming Goddess scandal from 2017).
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OK this page isn't that hideous, but don't be too excited

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I'm not into perspective, so I'm gonna gush the first ilustration
this illustration is gonna haunt me in nightmares xd
View attachment 1748437
So that means, that Kakyoin doesn't write letters, e-mails, or phone calls ?? Just like hello logic ???
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Again this page is kinda goodly drawn, so...
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I don't read Stone Ocean, but is this Jolyne is sceptic about dad, because He was busy and absent in her life ???
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(Insert that Idubbz I'm gay image)
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The background is empty, It looks like the house in indecorating just like If She would draw more details, the comic would be look more professional/better. Because of the emptiness I decided to add someting, to see what comic would look with these details.
View attachment 1748462
im lazy asf to add more ok ?
+ ah yes the Jebać Disa & kono dio da joke
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Yes I don't showed the bonus drawings,/ a probably few pages but they mean nothing in the plot
Yes MRM has a large collection of not R18 doujins. Not all doujins are Porn. Just read e.g; All the same, The Ocean gently stilled, Stray Birds, or Before the Ticket Gate at 10 A.M and avoid the sexual tags, to prove that not all BL fancomics are straight up porn

If I would be comment that doujin in the few words I would say too fast. This comic needs more explatations nad less preachy, anti-fujo bullshit in the scenario layer. On the drawing side you need to work with perspective, backgrounds, expression. If you want to draw comic, that has more elements than dialogue you needs more experience. This had a potential, but this was ruined by her wievs, behaviors and amateur art with writing.
https://myreadingmanga.info/binkpinkie-reconnect-jojo-dj-eng/ - The comic link with comments about Fujoshi term
+ Bonus Jouta and her anti-fujo sperging
like If she are Anti-fujo, just why did you draw the fan-charachter made by fujos (When the CLAMP was came out the Clamp group made the BL doujins from JJBA and Devilman, even the one Doujin was issued in Poland in 2004 and became mainstream ( I'm talking about Wish by CLAMP) and they claimed themselfs as a Fujos), but I think this is a problem with whole Western Jotakak community, because I saw more people like her
Sorry, but JoJo gay comics are shit compared to the masterpiece that CLAMP's made.
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I'm sorry for being late, but I found this doujin on Myreadingmanga and OMG this is soo hillarously bad
and something other than r34 in Western tag , and the author was metioned earlier in this thread (page 1720)
+ creator is really anti-fujo (+JonaWagon shipper, but this is less important)
View attachment 1748375
To be honest the cover is bad, not interesting I never thought about reading this, before the drama and the rewiev.
View attachment 1748388
OK, but why did you done this ? And the topics are metioned like....a in the 1 picture XD. Plus why Kakyoin looks like a 70-yeard old man ?. And yeah I'm not gonna say about the anti-fujo rhetoric, because everyone in the comment section said this earlier, bonus this comic was probably posted without her permission, so she explained this and tried to delete this, but MRM doesn't done that
(ah yes the Yumerimu Megami/Dreaming Goddess scandal from 2017).
View attachment 1748416
OK this page isn't that hideous, but don't be too excited

View attachment 1748476

I'm not into perspective, so I'm gonna gush the first ilustration
this illustration is gonna haunt me in nightmares xd
View attachment 1748437
So that means, that Kakyoin doesn't write letters, e-mails, or phone calls ?? Just like hello logic ???
View attachment 1748440
Again this page is kinda goodly drawn, so...
View attachment 1748441View attachment 1748442
I don't read Stone Ocean, but is this Jolyne is sceptic about dad, because He was busy and absent in her life ???
View attachment 1748445
View attachment 1748448View attachment 1748449
(Insert that Idubbz I'm gay image)
View attachment 1748450
The background is empty, It looks like the house in indecorating just like If She would draw more details, the comic would be look more professional/better. Because of the emptiness I decided to add someting, to see what comic would look with these details.
View attachment 1748462
im lazy asf to add more ok ?
+ ah yes the Jebać Disa & kono dio da joke
View attachment 1748464
View attachment 1748466View attachment 1748467View attachment 1748469
Yes I don't showed the bonus drawings,/ a probably few pages but they mean nothing in the plot
Yes MRM has a large collection of not R18 doujins. Not all doujins are Porn. Just read e.g; All the same, The Ocean gently stilled, Stray Birds, or Before the Ticket Gate at 10 A.M and avoid the sexual tags, to prove that not all BL fancomics are straight up porn

If I would be comment that doujin in the few words I would say too fast. This comic needs more explatations nad less preachy, anti-fujo bullshit in the scenario layer. On the drawing side you need to work with perspective, backgrounds, expression. If you want to draw comic, that has more elements than dialogue you needs more experience. This had a potential, but this was ruined by her wievs, behaviors and amateur art with writing.
https://myreadingmanga.info/binkpinkie-reconnect-jojo-dj-eng/ - The comic link with comments about Fujoshi term
+ Bonus Jouta and her anti-fujo sperging
like If she are Anti-fujo, just why did you draw the fan-charachter made by fujos (When the CLAMP was came out the Clamp group made the BL doujins from JJBA and Devilman, even the one Doujin was issued in Poland in 2004 and became mainstream ( I'm talking about Wish by CLAMP) and they claimed themselfs as a Fujos), but I think this is a problem with whole Western Jotakak community, because I saw more people like her
(Cracks knuckles) I feel a critique coming on.

That cover, first off, is awful. Maybe "don't judge a book by it's cover" works as a metaphor, but not in the situation of actual books. This teels us nothing except for the author being shit at side portraits.
The authors note is also dumb as fuck considering it's on a manga site with tags such as rape, incest and a myriad of other shit. I'm pretty sure the readers wouldn't bat an eye to ANY of the forewarned content.

The actual story itself is just....bad. If the intent was to write story focused on the Jotakak reconnection, this should be MUCH longer. If japanese college aged women can churn out 30-50 pages of doujin in a short amount of time and STILL make it cohesive, so can this author. The doujin itself feels like a sparknotes version of itself and has no emotional impact.
That isn't helped by how unimpressive the art is. I don't read doujins often (cause most are just fluff and no content) but this is low even by fan standards. So much negative space, characters have little detail, angles feel flat and don't offer much in terms of variety of even just spicing up things. A good story can have bad art and a bad story can have good art, but a bad story with bad art is just...bad.

0/10, git gud scrub
This may be just me but...I really don't get the popularity of Jotakak. In terms of interaction, the pair interacted the least in SDC and that does NOT help this story and it's "plot" in the slightest. No wonder fujoshi shit is so popular; if THIS is the alternative to well drawn porn, what do you think people are gonna choose?
 
(Cracks knuckles) I feel a critique coming on.

That cover, first off, is awful. Maybe "don't judge a book by it's cover" works as a metaphor, but not in the situation of actual books. This teels us nothing except for the author being shit at side portraits.
The authors note is also dumb as fuck considering it's on a manga site with tags such as rape, incest and a myriad of other shit. I'm pretty sure the readers wouldn't bat an eye to ANY of the forewarned content.

The actual story itself is just....bad. If the intent was to write story focused on the Jotakak reconnection, this should be MUCH longer. If japanese college aged women can churn out 30-50 pages of doujin in a short amount of time and STILL make it cohesive, so can this author. The doujin itself feels like a sparknotes version of itself and has no emotional impact.
That isn't helped by how unimpressive the art is. I don't read doujins often (cause most are just fluff and no content) but this is low even by fan standards. So much negative space, characters have little detail, angles feel flat and don't offer much in terms of variety of even just spicing up things. A good story can have bad art and a bad story can have good art, but a bad story with bad art is just...bad.

0/10, git gud scrub
This may be just me but...I really don't get the popularity of Jotakak. In terms of interaction, the pair interacted the least in SDC and that does NOT help this story and it's "plot" in the slightest. No wonder fujoshi shit is so popular; if THIS is the alternative to well drawn porn, what do you think people are gonna choose?
About Jotakak I think jotakak is popular like Todoroki x Deku from bnha. The one side (Jotaro, Deku) saved/changed mind of other side (Shoto, Noriaki) and they are really blank in canon, so that makes a big a really BIG space for fanfic/doujins/fanart creators and shippers. Plus add the fact, that SDC is the most popular JJBA part and Jotakak is 14th most popular BL ship in doujins, so that makes a little bit sense.
About the doujin I have only one opinion . The author of this is really young and newbie into comics. Just if she will work more with comics and she will stop with Western mentality, her work will be a LOT BETTER. I'm not talking about EMG1993, Tetsuo, or Nurunuru level, but the comic would be a generic/medicore doujin
+ from comics like this I'm gonna prefer the Jotakak porn, they were better drawn and the artstyle is more aesthetically pleasing XD
 
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