SJW Campus Insanity and its Causes

[ChameleonBody]

I've been thinking not just about SJWism and the new 3rd wave feminism and I think they're simply reflections of a deeper movement in current culture away from concepts like logic, reason and evidence towards more subjective truths.

Basically current culture is moving towards rejecting the older concepts of empirical evidence and constructional logic and embracing a more subjective sense where the view of the person is more important then the objective "Facts".

I copy/pasted some facets of Post-Modernism Enlightenment theory.

• Reality is unknowable
• Because reality is unknowable, truth does not exist
• Because truth does not exist, subjectivity is more valuable than objectivity.
• Reason does not exist, it is a “white male Euro`centric construct”
• Because reason and truth does not exist people should instead act according to emotions
• Individualism and humanism was based on humans being the fundamental unit of rationality. Rationality does not exist, and therefore individualism is wrong. Instead people should act as collectivists for their various racial, gender, and class groups.
• Science is not a tool to make life better for humanity; it is a weapon for the various collectivist groups to dominate each other.
• Language is not a method to communicate knowledge to reveal the truth, it is a weapon to intimidate and silence your enemies.
• With no truth to determine what is right and fair, and no language that can resolve disputes peacefully, disputes between people become a never ending battle of wills that is primarily resolved through force.

All of these sound familiar, too familiar.

I believe that our Western Culture is, for what ever reason, current in the early stages of moving from an Enlightenment culture to this new Post-Modern version. Basically people are moving away from adulthood and back into immaturity by rejection causation of self to protect themselves from any failures they encounter. Emotional well being trumps facts or reality.

Its an outright rejection of reality with a desire to create a more pleasant environment where no challenges are able to injure the ego.

I'm going to keep pondering this; I'm intrigued by how well Post-Mo fits the SJW methodology.

I'm curious where you found those excerpts. In my opinion, the problem with this isn't necessary the leap into a post-modern mindset (I think shifts like this are really inevitable), it's that they have no idea how to handle it tactfully.

Take David Hume. He basically believed that the entire scientific method was a fallacious construct, but he knew that somehow, in spite of all sense, it worked. So there was no reason to throw it out if there was nothing better to replace it with. It's not impossible to retain a post-modern mindset while working with non-post-modern methodology.

Because post-modernism isn't necessarily a debilitating concept. The result of post-modernism is a mass accumulation of narratives and interpretations, and this can have a great degree of personal liberty and freedom to it if viewed the right way. I think SJWs' problem is that they still want to push their narrative over any other instead of being comfortable with that high degree of ambiguity.

 

[autisticdragonkin]

I'm curious where you found those excerpts. In my opinion, the problem with this isn't necessary the leap into a post-modern mindset (I think shifts like this are really inevitable), it's that they have no idea how to handle it tactfully.

Take David Hume. He basically believed that the entire scientific method was a fallacious construct, but he knew that somehow, in spite of all sense, it worked. So there was no reason to throw it out if there was nothing better to replace it with. It's not impossible to retain a post-modern mindset while working with non-post-modern methodology.

Because post-modernism isn't necessarily a debilitating concept. The result of post-modernism is a mass accumulation of narratives and interpretations, and this can have a great degree of personal liberty and freedom to it if viewed the right way. I think SJWs' problem is that they still want to push their narrative over any other instead of being comfortable with that high degree of ambiguity.

I would say that the problem with SJWs is that they have a lack of distinction in their thought between various forms of value (I usually use ethical individual and aesthetic) and because of this they view the world in a sort of animistic fashion where everything is seen as having a value which is in their reaction itself indicative not of something that exists within them (the SJWs) but rather an effect on the universe. This means that they will oppose things that they consider distasteful (such as a movie they con't like) in the same way that they would oppose something ethically wrong (murder). This poor integration is a value based one but also has metaphysical implications in causality. (didn't think that I would get an idea for a philosophy paper based off a kiwifarms thread)

 

[mindlessobserver]

By my awesome necromantic powers to bring life to a thread 7 years dead, I am captain hindsight!

What are you talking about? Your saying that the fringe intellectuals of the 1970's "became culturally dominate" compared to the mass movements of the 60s counterculture? No one outside of of the intellectual fringe gave a fuck about about the extreme left identity politics/communism ect.. for 40 years.

Sure the society slowly to the left in some ways anyways. But this always happens and it would have been a million times wore if the hard left had any influence back then or now.

Would you believe we are now culturally Marxist and cartoon network is teaching kids about how to be gender special and see skin color.

Yeah I'm pretty sure most of these students are in no particular order majoring in the following:

Liberal Arts(it depends of its straight up Lib Art or with Science)
Women's Studies(cue some BS from the ROK/Redpill community)
Psychology(nearly 90% of women are majoring in this field, dunno why, again cue BS from the ROK/Redpill community)
Art
Dance
Urban Studies
AA Studies
Theater

You clearly don't see any STEM, Nursing, Criminal Justice, or Law students wasting their time on things like that.

Oh if only this were true now.

I wonder if these SJW's have actually taken the time to understand the true reality of the world that they say they want to build?

I know they tend to be young and inexperienced, naive and sometimes blatantly hypocritical but do they really understand the society that would arise from their ideals?

Looks like the understood it better then we did. Most people want to avoid conflict and so we have given away society to bunch on intransigent shrieking tards.

I don't think most of them even know much about politics in general. Like I said, they seem much more interested in critiquing pop culture and day-to-day interactions than complicated things like the mechanics of government or economics. Even Karl Marx would school most of them in a debate about politics or economics.

They still do this to be fair.

So basically SJWs and their ilk can't face the facts of life thus live in a world of delusion, lies, dreams, and Internet.

Seems legit. Sad, somewhat scary, but legit.

What is scary is how violently they oppose anyone who points out the lies. And now they get to use State power to do it too.

 

[Retired Junta Member]

I (sadly) attended a high school and university heavily influenced by the very early waves of the SJ movement. I honestly think this is partly the result of a decades-old culture that the web has done nothing but revive, and partly the promise of an adventure. Students are, in fact, extremely entitled: as children they were told that they were special, that they could be what they wanted ... and now they want it to be and the movement gives them this illusion.

Being part of the movement means being young, hip, fun and all this while staying on the right side of history. A world has been created in which the couple and the family are a) difficult to construct b) reviled and described as the cause of all evil, a world in which mass culture is no longer popular but "entertainment" created by an algorithm: beings SJW fills all these gaps by giving you a fake family, a fake culture (better if exotic because the western one is boring) and the illusion of being a warrior of some kind.