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It's not necessary for reproduction, but its a preferred trait in reproduction (pure looks, no personality factored in). A correctly placed / grown upper jaw and lower jaw signals that the person achieved their genetic potential.

Source: http://www.tmj.ro/article.php?art=524124766124496

If anything, don't believe what I wrote in my thread of sluthate but at least give a reputable doctor's opinion on facial beauty a read.

Also the case of the twins in this video is very interesting: (one had perfect facial development, other did not) 1:50

Your entire argument hinges on the idea that a "correctly placed/ grown upper jaw and lower jaw signals (what the fuck does that even mean?)" is naturally and universally perceived as the most desirable traits.

You can try to give evidence for this, but it will be anecdotal in nature and will not support your claim that there is a universal standard for attractiveness.

Come back when you actually know what you're talking about.
 
Hey @Stoned Tablet please be sure to spoiler your pics if they are needed to

My bad, will be more careful in the future.

Your entire argument hinges on the idea that a "correctly placed/ grown upper jaw and lower jaw signals (what the fuck does that even mean?)" is naturally and universally perceived as the most desirable traits.

You can try to give evidence for this, but it will be anecdotal in nature and will not support your claim that there is a universal standard for attractiveness.

Come back when you actually know what you're talking about.

A correctly placed upper and lower jaw has LOTS of functional and aesthetic value. Form follows function. If your jaws and teeth are in the correct place, your teeth wear down slower and you can chew all types of food without any difficulty. Your airway is larger, so you are less likely to develop sleep apnea or other breathing disorders

http://www.arnettgunson.com/fab-treatment-planning/airway
 
Just stop pretending. They may be humans but for sure they don't get threated the same way. Tell that to all the kids bullied for being ugly,short or fat. Or all of them.
You may tell us your sob stories if you wish, but we're not in middle school any more.
 
My bad, will be more careful in the future.



A correctly placed upper and lower jaw has LOTS of functional and aesthetic value. If your jaws and teeth are in the correct place, your teeth wear down slower and you can chew all types of food without any difficulty. Your airway is larger, so you are less likely to develop sleep apnea or other breathing disorders

http://www.arnettgunson.com/fab-treatment-planning/airway

Are you trying to say "ugliness" is the same as genetic deformities? If you are, shame on you.

There is a big difference between faulty genes or complications at birth causing facial deformities with facial features that don't fit somebody's arbitrary standard of "attractiveness".
 
Are you trying to say ugliness is the same as genetic deformities? If you are, shame on you.

There is a big difference between faulty genes or complications at birth causing facial deformities with facial features that don't fit somebody's arbitrary standard of "attractiveness".

Extrinsic ugliness, yes. Intrinsic beauty and ugliness is an ENTIRELY different discussion. Stop confusing the two.

It's like everyone is assuming outside ugliness is related to intrinsic ugliness.....
 
Extrinsic ugliness, yes. Intrinsic beauty and ugliness is an ENTIRELY different discussion. Stop confusing the two.

It's like everyone is assuming outside ugliness is related to intrinsic ugliness.....

So according to you, your jaw not being perfectly symmetrical or your nose being a few degrees off center is a facial deformity? If so, explain why.
 
Answer me this. Does this person with Crouzon's Syndrome look ugly to you? Repulsive even? Ask yourself WHY?
Did it occur to you that the maxillary region is the most "normal" looking part of this baby?

Maxillary Region.png
 
Extrinsic ugliness, yes. Intrinsic beauty and ugliness is an ENTIRELY different discussion. Stop confusing the two.

It's like everyone is assuming outside ugliness is related to intrinsic ugliness.....

I think you might be a little confused. I'm not going to talk for anyone else, but I question the concept of intrinsic beauty or ugliness. Beauty and ugliness are human constructs. The universe does not care about beauty and humans have varying concepts of what's beautiful or whats ugly.
 
Cat party you're really fucking good at shit posting.

I think you might be a little confused. I'm not going to talk for anyone else, but I question the concept of intrinsic beauty or ugliness. Beauty and ugliness are human constructs. The universe does not care about beauty and humans have varying concepts of what's beautiful or whats ugly.

People can be intrinsically bad -- people like Elliot Rodger who went ER on innocent people. Isn't that ugliness that comes from within?
 
People can be intrinsically bad -- people like Elliot Rodger who went ER on innocent people. Isn't that ugliness that comes from within?

You really need to stop beating around the bush and just say what you really mean:

"ERMAGERD! WOMEN ARE ONLY ATTRACTED TO CHADS AND WON'T GO OUT WITH UGLY GUYS! WOMEN ARE THEREFORE SLUTS, AND HORRIBLE, MEAN, ICKY, YUCKY CREATURES!"
 
You really need to stop beating around the bush and just say what you really mean:

"ERMAGERD! WOMEN ARE ONLY ATTRACTED TO CHADS AND WON'T GO OUT WITH UGLY GUYS! WOMEN ARE THEREFORE SLUTS, AND HORRIBLE, MEAN, ICKY, YUCKY CREATURES!"

I disagree. Women aren't horrible creatures. Men rate women just as harshly as women rate men.
 
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