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[HG 400]

You randomly called me ugly (even though you don't know how I look lol) angrily while saying you're a tall hot blonde woman (kind of big-headed?). It felt pretty hostile... But okay...

She is a tall hot blonde woman, and you probably are ugly.

 

[Hodor]

What?
The only way to make yourself more sexually attractive, is to change your appearance.
Fixing facial structure, working out, tanning...

I am working on all of these things.

bruh, if you don't got a good personality, no chick is gonna want you to give them the d.

Or maybe considering everything, you don't WANT chicks.

 

[ne enenen]

Actually that wasn't meant as an insult, it was a genuine question.
For examples of adhominems, look at the above posts by your own "compatriots"

 

[autisticdragonkin]

What?
The only way to make yourself more sexually attractive, is to change your appearance.
Fixing facial structure, working out, tanning...

I am working on all of these things.

I don't know how you fix your facial structure, but you should instead try to make yourself a productive member of society because that will do far more for your attractiveness then any workouts ever will

 

[Null]

So you're admitting to being unattractive, poor, status-less, and having a bad personality?
I really doubt you fit all of those categories... or if you do, then the girl you're with isn't exactly spectacular.

I'm a pretty dumpy guy, but I work online doing a job really enjoy. I guess you could say that's "status" but she will make way more money than me when she's done studying. She's going into commercial nuclear engineering, which would probably be 2~4 times more than my salary.

Your mention of personality is sort-of thrown in as a catch like, "they only do it to be popular". I'm not a popular person and in no way can she possibly leech off me for status. To be honest, I'm kind of an asshole. I have no idea what she likes about me. She just does.

She's a young engineer and because of her job's mandatory exercise routines she's in amazing shape and can run a mile in like 6 minutes. I would say she's very attractive.

 

[Derbydollar]

What?
The only way to make yourself more sexually attractive, is to change your appearance.
Fixing facial structure, working out, tanning...

I am working on all of these things.

And you'll be dumped when they scratch beneath the surface, but I suppose those are the girls you're aiming for anyways.
Just don't expect to get a meaningful or good dating experience out of your efforts.

 

[DiamondInTheRough]

"If you know what women want, then you'll know how best to improve yourself."
How does going after women correlate to improving yourself? Correlation does not equal causation. You can work on your mistakes as a human being and work on them. Going after women does not help that in the slightest.

"it should be pretty obvious to anyone that isn't completely deluded that men with certain facial and bodily features are favored by women."
Men with certain facial and bodily features are sometimes the favored trait among women. The keyword being "sometimes". Life isn't fucking fair but that does not give you the right to make sweeping generalizations about women in general.

"SHers are not scientists, but a lot of it is backed up by empirical data and some experiments."
Hoo boy, this one was fucking stupid. What empirical data and thought experiments? CITATION NEEDED.

I wasn't talking about "improving yourself" in general; I was walking about improving yourself in regards to getting more women. Sure, this isn't the only area of self-improvement that I or anyone there could work on, but I'd say sex is a pretty important part of being somewhat fulfilled in life, at least for me.

I'm making generalizations about women that are, at least somewhat, true. Just look at any Tinder experiment on the site and see that men with certain facial features(strong jaw, striking eyes, good browridge, good facial proportions) are favored way more than an average guy. And we're talking a difference of hundreds of matches, a bit more than "sometimes". Sure, Tinder is not the only way to meet women and it is only for hookups, but there's nothing wrong with wanting hookups.

And holy wow you're a moron if you don't believe that there's data to support better looking people being favored in society. Taller men make up the extreme majority of CEO's, and get more promotions. There is a physical attractiveness bias in hiring: http://www.hofstra.edu/pdf/orsp_shahani-denning_spring03.pdf There are so many studies on this topic, so please read a little bit.

 

[Yog-Spergoth]

Actually that wasn't meant as an insult, it was a genuine question.
For examples of adhominems, look at the above posts by your own "compatriots"

So, were I to call you a superficial moron, without even the brainpower to power a hamster around a two-centimeter wheel, would that be ad-hominem?

I ask out of curiosity.

 

[SpessCaptain]

There are people who claim to be sapiosexuals, people who are turned on by intelligence first and then begin to find an individual sexually attractive. It isn't anything special, there are a lot of slow burn attractions.

Then again there are people like you who immediately turn into Brian Peppers once you open your mouth.

Which I can confirm too, I honestly would like to have someone who is intelligent or at least at the same level as my on the introspective table, I wouldn't want a dude whose just 19 pounds cock, 9% body fat, tall, thin and handsome if I can't have a conversation with him.

Whats more being funny like Null said: there is a link between attractiveness and being funny and personally I can see why.

Having intelligence, personality and humour are traits I look for in a person, looks are good and all but they phaze down when the relationship simmers. Looks are only good if you want to get fucked, personality is if you want to have in a relationship.

 

[Frank Rizzo]

Actually that wasn't meant as an insult, it was a genuine question.
For examples of adhominems, look at the above posts by your own "compatriots"

Well, we're not wrong. You come off like a condescending, pompous, douchey jackass who chimps out at the slightest thing.

You could look like George Clooney, but with the above traits you have, you're gonna be fighting an uphill battle.

 

[WeedFaggot024]

Actually that wasn't meant as an insult, it was a genuine question.
For examples of adhominems, look at the above posts by your own "compatriots"

Was you ever told as a kid looks aren't everything, There are more things than looks people find attractive.

 

[ne enenen]

I'm a pretty dumpy guy, but I work online doing a job really enjoy. I guess you could say that's "status" but she will make way more money than me when she's done studying. She's going into commercial nuclear engineering, which would probably be 2~4 times more than my salary.

Your mention of personality is sort-of thrown in as a catch like, "they only do it to be popular". I'm not a popular person and in no way can she possibly leech off me for status. To be honest, I'm kind of an asshole. I have no idea what she likes about me. She just does.

She's a young engineer and because of her job's mandatory exercise routines she's in amazing shape and can run a mile in like 6 minutes. I would say she's very attractive.

Judging by that, I'm sure if I saw a picture of you two you'd be at about the same level of attractiveness.
You don't date out of your league without something going for you.

 

[TM Ambrose]

You guys are like the Scott Steiner mathematician's of autism.

"But our math shows that we will be the chosen ones at Summer Slam this year! Bitches love math."

The difference between Scott Steiner and incels are when he beats his duck in public people say they love him, and when incels beat their duck in public they get arrested.

 

[Overchek]

My personality is fine, if not exceptional.

Would you say you are an exceptional individual?

 

[Linako 2.0]

This makes me all sad.
these people are all lost souls who just wanted to fit in and also get a girlfriend or something.
THey now fall to the cult of Jamie and now have this huge obsession with their looks. all this just so they can get what they desire.
It depresses me since some of these people might actually be cool guys to talk with.
I could have ended like these people if I didn't have high enough willpower and self awareness.
AIDS, if you stop being a faggot, I'll watch anime with you... maybe.

 

[Ariel]

You randomly called me ugly (even though you don't know how I look lol) angrily while saying you're a tall hot blonde woman (kind of big-headed?). It felt pretty hostile... But okay...

You misunderstood what I meant.

 

[Frank Rizzo]

The difference between Scott Steiner and incels are when he beats his duck in public people say they love him, and when incels beat their duck in public they get arrested.

Do *not* put Big Poppa Pump in the same category as these spedheads!

 

[KingGeedorah]

So the real question is, what happens when you guys get old and have no one to take care of you?

Will you regret your life filled with hate?

 

[Null]

Judging by that, I'm sure if I saw a picture of you two you'd be at about the same level of attractiveness.
You don't date out of your league without something going for you.

If you insist.

 

[SpessCaptain]

This makes me all sad.
these people are all lost souls who just wanted to fit in and also get a girlfriend or something.
THey now fall to the cult of Jamie and now have this huge obsession with their looks. all this just so they can get what they desire.
It depresses me since some of these people might actually be cool guys to talk with.
I could have ended like these people if I didn't have high enough willpower and self awareness.
AIDS, if you stop being a faggot, I'll watch anime with you... maybe.

yeah it's pretty sad, I mean I think they've reeled back and I think one of their members has really considered our point across and possibly turned his opinion around, he's not weak for not sticking to his opinions, rather strong enough to challenge them and change them.