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Every model does have a good maxilla though. It's a very real observation

Dunno. Been lurking on sluthate for a while and googled sluthate and came to this thread. I don't agree with their rampant all or nothing attitude when it comes to everything

But models - of any gender - are selected to be striking, not sexy. And androgyny is prized in 'model looks'. Kristen McMenamy, Karen Elson, Kate Moss, Karlie Kloss: they aren't 'sexy' in terms of how SH defines "high-estrogen" "sexy" women. In fact, almost the opposite. But they were/are legendary models for how striking they were. You can swap one Sports Illustrated swimsuit girl for another interchangably and achieve the same aesthetic effect in the photoshoot, but you can't swap Kate for Karlie or Jourdan Dunn and get anything like a similar effect. The illustrious 'Chad' is never described as a model, but as a jock. Who have a 'looks' type very different from your standard high-fashion model. Hockey players are usually missing some teeth.
 
Lol nevermind that puahate hated roger enough to shut it's doors.

I thought they shut down because of the massive amount of press the site was getting. They feared they were being monitored.

Every model does have a good maxilla though. It's a very real observation

WTF is a "good maxilla"? And can you really confirm that "every" model possesses such a thing?
 
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I thought they shut down because of the massive amount of press the site was getting. They feared they were being monitored.
Could be, see I made the mistake of assigning them virtue.
PUAhate was a much better site than sluthate though... and it was a shithole full of guys who were once dumb enough to pay someone for classes that were supposed to get them a long line of beautiful women out their bedroom door and around the block. :lol:
Don't you worry though now they know about the tragically retruded noblid maxilla.... this time it will be different. This time they'll get laid and then they'll fix all their problems.
 
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WTF is a "good maxilla"? And can you really confirm that "every" model possesses such a thing?

I think they confuse mandibles with maxilla.
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1) You're a regular sluthate user
2) You've blown your cover
3) You're wave 15

You got me. But to be fair, I live a normal life, and am only interested in aesthetics and not in the other stuff they spout on the forums
I want to be a plastic surgeon / orthognathic (jaw) surgeon one day

WTF is a "good maxilla"? And can you really confirm that "every" model possesses such a thing?
Read point number 3 in this thread: http://sluthate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81503
Review the surgical cases and how the change in the upper jaw (maxilla) affects aesthetics

And of course a good maxilla and mandible are crucial for aesthetics. It's natural selection at its core -- the upper jaw and lower jaw make up for over 50% of our face, so its natural to assume that people who look good had perfect development.
 
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I think they confuse mandibles with maxilla.
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Wait... how the fuck is a baloon going to change the shape of that I seen a skull before and that's not going to move around a lot. I also think it's strange the way they act like somehow that's not going to be a fuckload of painful surgery.
 
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You got me. But to be fair, I'm live a normal life, and am only interested in aesthetics and not in the other stuff they spout on the forums
I want to be a plastic surgeon / orthognathic (jaw) surgeon one day


Read point number 3 in this thread: http://sluthate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81503
Review the surgical cases and how the change in the upper jaw (maxilla) affects aesthetics

And of course a good maxilla and mandible are crucial for aesthetics. It's natural selection at its core -- the upper jaw and lower jaw make up for over 50% of our face, so its natural to assume that people who look good had perfect development.

I wish you the best of luck with your career. I would also strongly advise you to stay off KiwiFarms and study your ass off in order to get a scholarship. Medical school and postgraduate surgical exams are stupidly expensive everywhere.
 
You got me. But to be fair, I live a normal life, and am only interested in aesthetics and not in the other stuff they spout on the forums
I want to be a plastic surgeon / orthognathic (jaw) surgeon one day
That's actually pretty cool, but aren't there less...insane websites you could go to for aesthetics appreciation?

EDIT: Also, I have another question: Do you have any idea how representative the sluthaters are of your average plastic surgery customers?
 
Somebody help me, I can't figure this out.

Every guy who the SH'ers identify as "looksmaxed" or "great maxilla" or whatevs, the alleged SLAYERS who are supposed to be irresistible to women.... look like gay twinks. Srsly. They would slay on Grindr. They are not 'looksmaxed' for attracting TRUE AND HONEST hetero women.

On what basis has SH formed its understanding of what features are attractive to women?
Short answer: They haven't.

They try to objectively define attractiveness but always tend to disagree among themselves when rating people with numbers. They don't even realize how hypocritical it is, laughably so.
 
Read point number 3 in this thread: http://sluthate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81503
Review the surgical cases and how the change in the upper jaw (maxilla) affects aesthetics

And of course a good maxilla and mandible are crucial for aesthetics. It's natural selection at its core -- the upper jaw and lower jaw make up for over 50% of our face, so its natural to assume that people who look good had perfect development.

I'm going to ignore the abuse of the word "aesthetic". And "it's natural selection at it's core" doesn't make any sense. If a protruding maxilla is necessary for reproduction, "bad" maxilla's would have gone with the dodo bird.
 
I'm going to ignore the abuse of the word "aesthetic". And "it's natural selection at it's core" doesn't make any sense. If a protruding maxilla is necessary for reproduction, "bad" maxilla's would have gone with the dodo bird.

It's not necessary for reproduction, but its a preferred trait in reproduction (pure looks, no personality factored in). A correctly placed / grown upper jaw and lower jaw signals that the person achieved their genetic potential.

Source: http://www.tmj.ro/article.php?art=524124766124496

If anything, don't believe what I wrote in my thread of sluthate but at least give a reputable doctor's opinion on facial beauty a read.

Also the case of the twins in this video is very interesting: (one had perfect facial development, other did not) 1:50
 
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It's not necessary for reproduction, but its a preferred trait in reproduction (pure looks, no personality factored in). A correctly placed / grown upper jaw and lower jaw signals that the person achieved their genetic potential.

Source: http://www.tmj.ro/article.php?art=524124766124496

If anything, don't believe what I wrote in my thread of sluthate but at least give a reputable doctor's opinion on facial beauty a read.

You can hire the article author's house! http://castleweekends.co.uk/professor_mew.html#.VTj9ZpTF84Q
 
I'm going to ignore the abuse of the word "aesthetic". And "it's natural selection at it's core" doesn't make any sense. If a protruding maxilla is necessary for reproduction, "bad" maxilla's would have gone with the dodo bird.
http://www.stlouischildrens.org/our-services/plastic-surgery/midfacial-hypoplasia

You like it or not,an orthognathic profile is an anatomical feature present in every well-delevoped human. Having whatever kind of bone recession is not going to guarantee you a orthognathic profile,therefore it's not normal.
 
It's not necessary for reproduction, but its a preferred trait in reproduction (pure looks, no personality factored in). A correctly placed / grown upper jaw and lower jaw signals that the person achieved their genetic potential.

Source: http://www.tmj.ro/article.php?art=524124766124496

If anything, don't believe what I wrote in my thread of sluthate but at least give a reputable doctor's opinion on facial beauty a read.

I'm not denying that this "good" maxilla is not an element of what humans perceive as beauty, my main objection is how it's framed and worshiped by the SH/incel/whatever community. I see plenty of people with what you would probably think are "bad" maxilla's, with happy and content lives. They do get laid and have partners etc ....

If anything, don't believe what I wrote in my thread of sluthate but at least give a reputable doctor's opinion on facial beauty a read.

Just being honest, what you wrote is just assertions and lots of presumptions. It's just presented in a less-than-objective way.

For example:
"looks at Francisco Lachowski's face, we can quickly identify him as a person with high genetic quality with just a glance."

You have no idea his genetic quality. He might have a look you perceive as beautiful, but you have no idea if he has an auto-immune disease or is susceptible to parkinsons or whatnot.
 
You like it or not,an orthognathic profile is an anatomical feature present in every well-delevoped human. Having whatever kind of bone recession is not going to guarantee you a orthognathic profile,therefore it's not normal.

So, I might have midface hypoplasia. Do I have to see a doctor?Not necessarily. Many people can function normally with mild midface hypoplasia. Usually, these people have mildly prominent eyes and have teeth that do not meet well. Often, there is no problem with snoring or sleep apnea.

When should I consider treatment?
Treatment for midface hypoplasia may benefit those children and adults who have one or more of the following problems:

  • Severe drying of the eyes (Keratoconjunctivitis): This can happen because the eyes are so protuberant (“bug-eyed”) that they are unable to close properly. Often, patients with this problem have been managing by placing ointment into their eyes at night in order to keep the eyes moist.
  • The jaws do not meet correctly (Malocclusion): Many people may be able to get by with orthodontics which try to bring the upper teeth forward. However, in some circumstances, the gap between the upper and lower teeth is so large that surgery is needed to correct the problem.
  • Obstructive sleep apnea (OSA): Individuals with bad sleep apnea can wake up hundreds of times a night and not even realize it. One associated sign is severe snoring. This is an indication that the tongue and tissues are hanging too far into the back of the throat, blocking the airway. Because they don't get a good night’s sleep, people with OSA can be tired all the time, falling asleep at work or school. There are also other negative side effects to this, including high blood pressure.

Do you have any of the conditions the page you linked to considers grounds for treatment?
 
You like it or not,an orthognathic profile is an anatomical feature present in every well-delevoped human. Having whatever kind of bone recession is not going to guarantee you a orthognathic profile,therefore it's not normal.

English, please.
 
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