"Smart Homes" - just how retarded can the niggercattle get? - An attempt was made to not politisperg

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As if the general privacy of the public post-PATRIOT Act and all of the boundary overstepping activities of the NSA becoming widespread knowledge thanks to Snowden wasn't in bad enough shape, it seems millions upon millions of Americans just can't wait to surrender even more of their power to their pozzed corporate overlords. We all knew some wack ass dystopian shit like this was inevitable when the "smart home" crap started becoming more and more popular. Well, Amazon has recently shut down a customer's smart home for almost a week because they thought the customer was a racist.

What the fuck is wrong with people nowadays that they are so eager to surrender their buttholes to the 1% just so their toaster can be synched up with their iPhone or whatever? Is there a genuine BENEFIT to having a smart home that I am just missing? I mean, NO benefit is worth giving immediate control over your personal infrastructure to someone else like that...but clue me in here. Am I missing something? I feel like I have to be missing something, it just makes no fucking sense why anyone would want to do this crap. Yet here we are.


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In an effort to not make this a political thread so we can maybe just discuss the potential tyrannical and corporate abuse aspects of this topic, I think the guy who made that video had a great response to a commenter who stated the following:

"Sad this channel is evolving to city bashing, anti-woke” outrage drivel. I don’t blame it. It works well for Joe Rogan and the Algo. Good luck sir."

The reply was pretty much perfect and sums up my feelings about shit like this:

"This happened in a suburb, not a city. Wokeness or antiwokeness has nothing to do with sovereign technology and not allowing a trillion dollar monopoly to control your home. Whether the B in BLM stands for black lives matter or blue lives matter is irrelevant to the point; you and all people should have freedom from tyrants, regardless of your political affiliation.

Whether the tyrant is a greedy, sociopathic asshole or just an incompetent bureaucracy, it doesn't matter. Whether the tyrant is looking for racism that doesn't exist in the moment, or is accusing you of being a groomer because of your sexual orientation/gender identity, is not the issue. We should all be alert to tyrannical corporate control encroaching on our freedom & our lives so we avoid the pitfalls of it. Right to repair ties into it. Everything being a subscription ties into it. Your home communicating with Amazon's servers ties into it.

You're looking at it from an ideologically possessed, politically salty angle. You're carrying over the baggage from many other, unrelated arguments to this one. You're looking at the tiny pieces that are relevant to your outrage towards me, whom you perceive to be your political enemy, rather than focusing on the big picture.

What is the big picture? As long as we continue to bicker & fight amongst ourselves, the subscriptions will continue, devices will become less repairable, and someone else far far away will have more control over what you own. We can choose to notice and stop tolerating it, piece by piece, until companies respect our freedom and sovereignty again. OR, we can bicker amongst ourselves to score points as we dive head first into the abyss of having no control over our devices, vehicles, homes, and our lives.

The decision is ours. I hope you join me in making the right one.

Have a good rest of your evening!"


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Let's talk about "smart homes".
 
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Is there a genuine BENEFIT to having a smart home that I am just missing?

You're not missing anything. There's no real benefit - all it is, is a shiny new overcomplicated thing to preoccupy and entertain the hip and trendy consoomer. Call me a pessimist, but a sizeable amount of people are literal drones concerned with only feeling good and getting approval from others. Your average simpleton Joe loves this stuff, for it further fuels the comfortably numb state of constant entertainment and "living in the now", thus being unable to comprehend that such things can bite you in the long run.
 
Smart homes would be convenient for people who like that sort of thing, or people with disabilities of some form, if it didn't require being logged into the internet at all times. Because of that, having a smart home (or any "smart" devices) is just the dumbest idea.

if you paid for it you should OWN it.

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If you aren't hosting your own local network for your smart home devices that doesn't connect to anyone's hardware except your own. You do not own your smart home they own it and will give you the illusion of you owning it as they disconnect you from your paid service the moment you do something that will affect your "Soycial credit".

You try to explain this to people and they go you're just a crazy conspiracy theorist.

No wonder why people in Technology who become disillusioned with it all end up becoming farmers.
 
when the texas electric grid decided it was time to take a shit during one of the worst ice storms in the state's history a couple years ago, our corporate overlords who run the utility company actually hacked into their customer's 'smarthome' thermostats and turned them down without the niggercattle's permission.

Despite that, people still buy these faggot devices because they're completely retarded. You get what you deserve.,
 
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the creepiest yet simultaneously stupidest concept ever proposed
it was dumb when the Jetsons did it, it's even dumber when Amazon does it
whoever buys this shit gets what they deserve, even if I'd rather that not include treading on their privacy, and I do my absolute best to stay as far away from it as possible
unfortunately, the dude who mentioned disabilities earlier is kind of right, since I have disabled relatives who need the smart stuff to get a lot of essentials due to not having anyone but each other to take care of them so every time we go over to help/visit we end up in the vicinity of an Alexa
 
The response from the guy who had his devices locked down is so mawkish and pathetic, it makes me want to projectile vomit until I die. A soulless mega-corporation locks him out of his devices because they think he said a no-no word to their wage slave, and his response is, "I totally understand they want to protect their slaves," and "I've been a loyal customer," and "I'm seriously reconsidering moving away from Amazon Echo." Motherfucker, they remotely locked down your house for ungoodthink with zero notice. That you're only "considering" throwing that shit in the trash proves you're lost. You're a broken, soulless bugman who deserves to be trampled and humiliated by your corporate overlords. I don't even know the words to properly describe my bottomless contempt for him. He's lower than a fucking worm. At least worms have the sense to escape immediately if they get stomped on.

Because of my job, I've been getting trade magazines that have been pushing the IoT for almost a decade now, and it's always seemed like a solution in search of a problem. Manufacturers and industry shills have been pushing and exaggerating the benefits of the IoT to an embarrassing extreme without really addressing basic questions like what benefit there is to connecting your toilet to the internet. About 99% of the articles from the past 10 years have only described the potential of the IoT in the vaguest language possible, and maybe 1% of them vaguely address concerns like the fact that the market is the Wild West in terms of security standards. They push it because it gives them something to talk about that sounds fancy and cutting-edge, not because it has any real benefit to the average consumer, let alone a benefit that outweighs the incredible drawbacks of opening your fucking door locks up to the internet or signing control of your thermostat over to people who hate you.

In my opinion, the only benefit to "smart" homes is signaling to everyone else that you're keeping up with the latest tech trends. It appeals to consoomers whose self-worth is determined by how much shiny plastic shit they have in their homes. Never once have I turned on a light switch and thought, "I really wish there was a way I could turn on this lamp from anywhere on the planet," or, "I really wish there was a way for the NSA to monitor me through my toaster." As far as I'm concerned, the moment you even consider connecting your appliances to the internet, you're a lost cause.
 
I don't even understand the point of most smart devices. Like why the fuck do you need an internet enabled stove or washing machine? You have to be in front of them to use them anyway. Do people like load up their washing machine then walk away and bust out their phone to start it or something. That shit doesn't even make sense.
 
I don't even understand the point of most smart devices. Like why the fuck do you need an internet enabled stove or washing machine? You have to be in front of them to use them anyway. Do people like load up their washing machine then walk away and bust out their phone to start it or something. That shit doesn't even make sense.
You don't understand, I need to make face time calls from my Samsung fridge because I can't be fucked to grab my phone. Also they turned it off for 2 days because of "carbon initiatives " and everything spoiled
 
I love some devices I have:

Ecobee: Using the graphs I get, I was able to diagnose the capacitor being out without having to call out a tech. Also able to fine tune how I want my unit to run as opposed to the old mercury switch type thermostat. But now the wifi in it is broken, and it's no loss. I can still fine tune and adjust my unit much better than an analog system.

Phillips Hue Lights: I like them for places like the bedrooms. Controlling the lights on my phone is great. (bluetooth)

Digital Door Locks: REALLY love not having to carry around more keys. Able to make passcodes for people taking care of my dogs when I'm out of town, but also turn them off when I don't want them in my house.


Other than that, everything else can kick rocks. I don't need alexa, or other bullshit like that. Smart fridges being the absolute worst offender in my eyes. I don't need a damn computer in my fridge.
 
Digital Door Locks: REALLY love not having to carry around more keys. Able to make passcodes for people taking care of my dogs when I'm out of town, but also turn them off when I don't want them in my house.
I’m going to piss on your door lock and then laugh when you’re locked out of your house due to piss.
 
Smart homes would be convenient for people who like that sort of thing, or people with disabilities of some form, if it didn't require being logged into the internet at all times. Because of that, having a smart home (or any "smart" devices) is just the dumbest idea.
There are some smart devices that can work without Internet connection (unplug your modem and discover which ones) but even after trying pretty hard and using things like hass.io and Hue bulbs and shit, and it's all crap. Hue is by far the best for the bulbs, but really all it gives you is color changing, which is lame. Lutron switches work decently well. But, seriously, it's too fucking expensive and a hassle for what you get - the ability to tell Siri to turn off all lights. That's really not worth it, and Siri is not quite good enough to work 100% of the time, so you reach for the damn switch anyway.

Screw it all. The smart door locks eat batteries like you wouldn't believe, and they're a hassle too. Just move somewhere where you can leave your house with the doors unlocked without it being raped to death by niggers. The one useful thing they allowed was taken away by Apple (unlock automatically as you walk up based on iPhone nearness) because "what if someone stole my phone" bitching. You can fake it with virtual light switches (make a light turn on when you get near the house, and set it to unlock doors when that light goes on), but it's a fuck.

The proper way to do it would be to have a dumb lock and the smarts in the doorjam like real electronic doors (like on a apartment building has).
Smart fridges being the absolute worst offender in my eyes. I don't need a damn computer in my fridge.
SOMEONE hasn't gone to home depot and opened kiwifarms on all the smart fridges .....
 
I’m going to piss on your door lock and then laugh when you’re locked out of your house due to piss.
I have a ring of keys somewhere so that I can gain access even without the code. Just helps to not have to carry them around.

Also, it's watertight. I'm not stupid.
 
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I actually do have a few smart lightbulbs. They’re crap. They need their own special app, that needs its own special account you log into. It has a widget that doesn’t work. The bulbs themselves get stuck and need to be restarted to reconnect, which entails turning their actual light off and on at the switch, exactly what they’re designed to help you avoid. If the power goes off, they come on by themselves, even if they were turned off before. You also can’t flip them back off from your phone right away, because it takes a few minutes for the internet to come back after a power outage, which is just terrific when it’s the middle of the night and I’m awakened by the power restoration.

I quit using them after about a week, and I have no other smarthome junk.
 
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