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When the social values have been undermined, when the citizenry have been subverted and replaced, and when the government is fanatically praising the destructions, then yes its either societal life support and delay collapse, or straight to collapse.
I believe that America will either resemble the Eastern Roman Empire because it hard swung states rights and survived the coasts (and a lot more) socially collapsing into hyper poverty and hyper capitalism in a racial jungle that fights city-to-city like Baltimore fights within itself, or it will resemble Fascist Italy or Spain and assume a strong man will fix everything followed by the strong man's values brutally changing America into a police state that does to the average like Baked Alaska has currently happening to him, or it will resemble an even more clownish South Africa but with a heck of a lot more Whites (depending on how long it takes to fall). A Mississippi Basin Monarchy will seem the sane choice given the alternatives when collapse begins.
The result will be the same, nations tend to bend into unrecognizable forms or collapse before the 250 year mark. America became constitutionally fixed and wouldn't bend and shift after March 4, 1789 plus the 250 years makes 2039. The 1971 World3 model from MIT pretty much lines up with that:
We're in the point of the model where pollution falls suddenly, the GDP is still rising but less than the population of America so the GDP per capita is falling. The rich compensate by taking larger shares of the GDP output for themselves and the wealth concentration skyrockets as the middle class is squeezed out of the gene pool leaving just those who are still rich enough to raise a kid or don't care about the consequences of not being. IQ will drop by 10-20% and automation will cover that gap until the economic system itself collapses in a resource shock probably about late 2040s to early 2050s.
The white population has already begun to fall in absolute numbers, and the fanatical cheering on late shows by white people reveals a complete lack of concern by social conditioning. Therefore we aren't going to solve this societially as a whole, maybe as smaller groups but America just is so fucked that leftism is more horrified by losing to the Chadiban (and thereby patriotic) than the supposed America-loving straight white christian men who are grateful to the taliban for ensuring Afghans aren't subverted like America was. Maybe MIT, Sir John Glubb, and I'm all wrong though, and then you needn't worry at all. Maybe Biden won't censor far too many people under a hysterical mandate of stopping terrorism via Homeland Security Forces, maybe Google and Twitter won't change politics via addicting social media into unstable paradigms in the name of advertiser friendliness, and maybe the cheering crowds of late shows for the death of whites (showing the self-hating academic brainwashing is either working or has unintended side effects depending on if it was supposed to cause support for Dead White People) isn't a sign of severe cultural subversion.
However what if America is turning into a desert and everyone is stuck arguing about climate change origins, the petrol-dollar is being abandoned by everyone connected to the Chinese gas pipelines plunging the American dollar continually down to just its domestic market value, or food scarcity one day soon really ramps up in Central America and South America forcing 25%-50% of the 182 million people of Central America to march north into America as a single wave like the Thuringia marched south into the Roman Empire during the reign of Claudius 'Gothicus'? When the Ottomans conquered Byzantine Empire, it was because the empire couldn't rally around anything or anyone when the Turkish army came for them. The Second Palaiologan Civil War, Johannes VI Cantacuzenus won by selling off sections of the empire for foreign assistance. During this time plague, earthquakes, and Ottoman raiding continued until only Philadelphia remained in Byzantine hands and only so by payment of a tribute. Throughout the civil war the Byzantines on both sides employed Turks and Serbs with mercenaries pillaging at will, leaving much of Macedonia in ruin and in the hands of the newly created Serbian Empire.
American leadership will increasingly bring in Israel, Visegrád Four, England, Russia, and China to buttress their political positions. Biden will sell to China anything he doesn't need for another day or two of stability. I don't believe we survive this remotely intact constitutionally, its a matter of what can be lost to ensure the lesser fall and faster recovery. Mind you, it will happen quietly at first. Its like a billionaire losing their money; a little at a time day by day on long bets until feverishly all of the rest suddenly on a short bet.
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