So, let's say Chris does move out...

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Aristocrat said:
CalmMyTits said:
CatParty said:
i can see barb not even thinking to will the house to him.

Not sure how inheritance laws work in VA but I think if Barb croaked without a will, the house would go to Cole and Chris, 50/50 if Bob willed the house solely to Barb and not his children from Patricia.

If Cole gets half the house, does he have the legal right to order it sold (so long as he gives Chris half the profit after taxes)?
Probably. Or he could force Chris to pay him half the value of the house, probably with some sort of payment plan or something. I guess they'd usually try to come sort of settlement. I don't know how it'd turn out if both parties refused to agree on a solution.
 
I can see Barb calling the cops and telling them that her barely functional autisic son got loose. Even if she doesn't think of him that way she'd ham up his mental problems to the police so they think they're looking for a severely mentally challenged man. That shit'll get them going after him real fast.
 
"Probably. Or he could force Chris to pay him half the value of the house, probably with some sort of payment plan or something. I guess they'd usually try to come sort of settlement. I don't know how it'd turn out if both parties refused to agree on a solution."

I can't imagine Chris agreeing to sell the house, because I don't think Cole would accept a monthly payment plan from Chris, so the two would remain at an impasse, but I can easily see Cole being a jerk (not that I could blame him in this case) and muscling his brother into it because Chris is a slow in da mind and would not be able to really defend himself from having the house sold from under him since we all know he would not be able to take care of 14BC.

Also, if the house were sold and Chris got half of the money, he would no longer be able to get SSI because you are not allowed to have more than I think 2,000 dollars in your account. I could see Cole telling Chris to let him have all the money or lose his tugboat.
 
CalmMyTits said:
"Probably. Or he could force Chris to pay him half the value of the house, probably with some sort of payment plan or something. I guess they'd usually try to come sort of settlement. I don't know how it'd turn out if both parties refused to agree on a solution."

I can't imagine Chris agreeing to sell the house, because I don't think Cole would accept a monthly payment plan from Chris, so the two would remain at an impasse, but I can easily see Cole being a jerk (not that I could blame him in this case) and muscling his brother into it because Chris is a slow in da mind and would not be able to really defend himself from having the house sold from under him since we all know he would not be able to take care of 14BC.

Also, if the house were sold and Chris got half of the money, he would no longer be able to get SSI because you are not allowed to have more than I think 2,000 dollars in your account. I could see Cole telling Chris to let him have all the money or lose his tugboat.

Doesn't this depend on Blarb not having cut Cole out of her will (if she has one)? She seems like the kind of person who'd bare a grudge enough to do that. And if Bob had life insurance I imagine he probably sorted that for his wife as well.
 
^ I don't get the impression that Barb really cares about Cole enough to actually harbor a grudge against him.
 
CalmMyTits said:
Also, if the house were sold and Chris got half of the money, he would no longer be able to get SSI because you are not allowed to have more than I think 2,000 dollars in your account. I could see Cole telling Chris to let him have all the money or lose his tugboat.
I thought he was on SSDI?
 
CalmMyTits said:
Also, if the house were sold and Chris got half of the money, he would no longer be able to get SSI because you are not allowed to have more than I think 2,000 dollars in your account. I could see Cole telling Chris to let him have all the money or lose his tugboat.

I can't imagine Chris is capable of that kind of foresight. His personality is one of instant gratification and the concept of a large lump sum of thousands of dollars would appeal to him immensely, despite the fact that the tugboat would serve him better in the long run (assuming he lives long enough)

I'd also be willing to bet that Cole would be the type to just let his special needs half brother keep it all purely for the sense of moral superiority it would give him, and to be fair he's never seemed to harbour any hostility towards Chris, just Borb.
That and the fact that he seems to actively go out his way to distance himself from that period of his life.
 
I'm betting Barb's will has a section like "And to my son Cole Smithey, who I had from my previous marriage to his father Jack Dale Smithey, I leave..."
And then Cole will stomp out in a huff and refuse the inheritance.
 
Oops yeah, I meant SSDI. I just refer to it all as SSI for simplicity's sake.

And I don't know. I mean, if I inherited a house, even half of it, I would be giddy. But then, this is 14BC so if I inherited half of it, much of the profit would probably be eaten by cleaning up the hoard and fixing all the damages, unless Cole used Chris' half of the money for that.

It's been a year and a half since Bob's death, so if his two older children had inherited the house, we probably would have heard about it, or maybe they just signed over their shares of the house, or Bob left them money (if anything) instead of the house, figuring his wife and autistic son would need it more, he seems to be the type to have a will. Chris (as far as we know) didn't see his half-siblings at the funeral.

There is the point that Barb is greedy and spiteful enough to cut Cole out of the will, but then, she's also spiteful enough to threaten to lock her son out of the house, so when Barb dies, the inheritance could go in all sorts of directions.
 
CalmMyTits said:
Oops yeah, I meant SSDI. I just refer to it all as SSI for simplicity's sake.
According to wikipedia, SSDI doesn't depend on income.
 
Marvin said:
CalmMyTits said:
Oops yeah, I meant SSDI. I just refer to it all as SSI for simplicity's sake.
According to wikipedia, SSDI doesn't depend on income.

I've never paid much attention to the different SS's out there. I do know there's a difference but to me it doesn't matter though I qualify for SSDI. I prefer to work though, and earn more on a paycheck than I would sitting home collecting a SSDI. Heck, I will probably work past retirement age if i am physically able to, since I don't really like loafing around and using my disability as a crutch. If something did happen to me though, that made me physically unable to work (if I were wheelchair-bound, for example) I'd be willing to take SSDI, but I prefer to save that as a last resort.

It really grinds my gears that Chris takes his tugboat for granted, without really thinking about where it comes from, or what a pittance it really is, especially after Bob had taken at least half of it for bills and whatnot. I understand he's getting more now, though. Marvin, do you know if Barb takes some of it for rent? It seemed that Chris had more disposable income, what with his iPhones and other toys.
 
teheviltwin said:
CalmMyTits said:
"Probably. Or he could force Chris to pay him half the value of the house, probably with some sort of payment plan or something. I guess they'd usually try to come sort of settlement. I don't know how it'd turn out if both parties refused to agree on a solution."

I can't imagine Chris agreeing to sell the house, because I don't think Cole would accept a monthly payment plan from Chris, so the two would remain at an impasse, but I can easily see Cole being a jerk (not that I could blame him in this case) and muscling his brother into it because Chris is a slow in da mind and would not be able to really defend himself from having the house sold from under him since we all know he would not be able to take care of 14BC.

Also, if the house were sold and Chris got half of the money, he would no longer be able to get SSI because you are not allowed to have more than I think 2,000 dollars in your account. I could see Cole telling Chris to let him have all the money or lose his tugboat.

Doesn't this depend on Blarb not having cut Cole out of her will (if she has one)? She seems like the kind of person who'd bare a grudge enough to do that. And if Bob had life insurance I imagine he probably sorted that for his wife as well.

You assume a white-trasher like Barb even bothered to pay an attorney to write up a will in the first place. There was no preplanning whatsoever about Bob's affairs when he passed away (thus the panhandling in Bob's obit that Chris wrote). And they certainly cannot afford one now with their level of income (and I doubt Bell's services include such things pro bono).

The house and property will end up in probate court. Barb's children will get equal shares, and since no one wants to pay property taxes on a p.o.s. house in Virginia from California, Cole will likely ask Chris to sell the house or buy up his share.

And you can imagine what all this legal mumbo-jumbo is going to do to Chris' "brain".
 
CalmMyTits said:
Marvin, do you know if Barb takes some of it for rent? It seemed that Chris had more disposable income, what with his iPhones and other toys.
When Bob died, all their financial stuff got flipped over, so while she might've reinstated the rent thing, I doubt she did. She might just have Chris handling everything.
 
Marvin said:
CalmMyTits said:
Marvin, do you know if Barb takes some of it for rent? It seemed that Chris had more disposable income, what with his iPhones and other toys.
When Bob died, all their financial stuff got flipped over, so while she might've reinstated the rent thing, I doubt she did. She might just have Chris handling everything.

I doubt Chris would put some of his hard earned tugboat to paying for silly things like rent or water. He always pays the electricity as soon as possible because he wouldn't be able to play his PS3.
 
Kosher Dill said:
There just might be a will. After all, Chris was in danger of losing his inheritance :lol:
http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Johnny_are_you_Queer

Chris is a moron as you know, and he "thinks" that a mere sheet of paper with "When I die, all of my stuff and my house will belong to my son, Christian Weston Chandler (a good person who is true and honest) -- Barbara Chandler" is legal enough.
 
There is the point that Barb is greedy and spiteful enough to cut Cole out of the will, but then, she's also spiteful enough to threaten to lock her son out of the house, so when Barb dies, the inheritance could go in all sorts of directions.

Greedy? Spiteful for sure, but I can't see how distribution of property after you're dead could be motivated by greed.

Also, assuming Barb really did give a shit, leaving the house solely to Chris is sort of the most humane option. Cole has a life, all Chris has is 14 Branchland, Cole doesn't need half a house, certainly not as much as Chris needs to not be involved in complex legal matters that affect his living situation.
 
Uzumaki said:
Cole doesn't need half a house, certainly not as much as Chris needs to not be involved in complex legal matters that affect his living situation.

Well tough shit, because Chris is gonna be in for them anyway. The only way he could avoid such responsibilities (and we all know how much Chris hates any responsibilities) is to have him declared legally incompetent. If he chafes by being called an adult-autistic child, then being declared an official half-wit is gonna make him (:_(
 
CalmMyTits said:
using my disability as a crutch

I know what you mean and feel the same way, but you have to admit this phrase taken out of context is rather funny. :)
 
Aristocrat said:
Uzumaki said:
Cole doesn't need half a house, certainly not as much as Chris needs to not be involved in complex legal matters that affect his living situation.

Well tough shit, because Chris is gonna be in for them anyway. The only way he could avoid such responsibilities (and we all know how much Chris hates any responsibilities) is to have him declared legally incompetent. If he chafes by being called an adult-autistic child, then being declared an official half-wit is gonna make him (:_(
I would love to see his face when he inevitably gets told that. Maybe he'll make a video about it.
I can't pretend to know much about this stuff because I don't pay my own bills yet. Is there any government programs in which your bills get paid by the government?
 
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